Fall Roster Overanalysis 2019
THE PHONEBOOKS ARE HERE
This morning the football program updated the weights and heights of the official spring roster, which previously published measurements from last fall, and then at 3 today they published the rest. That gift gave me enough lead time to arrange my annual weight gain/loss chart, without all the "here's the new walk-ons and numbers" analysis the American Society of Completionists demands.
Remember the rules: All weight gain is muscle, all weight lost was fat, and all guys who remained the same did so by replacing fat with muscle. I'll highlight the changes worth talking about.
Freshmen Note: Early enrollees' spring weights, and fall enrollees' weights that were previously on MGoBlue are listed under 2018, since those are mostly from high school weigh-ins.
QUARTERBACK | ||||||||||||
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Player | Class | GS | Pos | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 15 to 16 | 16 to 17 | 17 to 18 | 18 to 19 |
Shea Patterson | 2018* | 13 | QB | 200 | 203 | 205 | 202 | +3 | +2 | -3 | ||
Dylan McCaffrey | 2017 | 0 | QB | 199 | 217 | 220 | +18 | +3 | ||||
Joe Milton | 2018 | 0 | QB | 220 | 234 | 245 | +14 | +11 | ||||
Cade McNamara | 2019 | QB | 206 | 205 | -1 | |||||||
RUNNING BACK | ||||||||||||
Player | Class | GS | Pos | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 15 to 16 | 16 to 17 | 17 to 18 | 18 to 19 |
Tru Wilson | 2016 | 0 | RB | 190 | 200 | 202 | 200 | +10 | +2 | -2 | ||
Christian Turner | 2018 | 0 | RB | 185 | 200 | 200 | +15 | - | ||||
Hassan Haskins | 2018 | 0 | RB | 207 | 212 | 220 | +5 | +8 | ||||
Ben VanSumeren | 2018 | 0 | FB | 232 | 236 | 236 | +4 | - | ||||
Zach Charbonnet | 2019 | RB | 222 | 220 | -2 | |||||||
RECEIVER | ||||||||||||
Player | Class | GS | Pos | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 15 to 16 | 16 to 17 | 17 to 18 | 18 to 19 |
Nate Schoenle | 2016 | 1 | WR | 185 | 192 | 202 | 206 | +7 | +10 | +4 | ||
Donovan Peoples-Jones | 2017 | 17 | WR | 199 | 208 | 208 | +9 | - | ||||
Nico Collins | 2017 | 12 | WR | 206 | 218 | 222 | +12 | +4 | ||||
Tarik Black | 2017 | 4 | WR | 206 | 215 | 215 | +9 | - | ||||
Ronnie Bell | 2018 | 0 | WR | 174 | 182 | 184 | +8 | +2 | ||||
Cornelius Johnson | 2019 | WR | 195 | 209 | +14 | |||||||
Mike Sainristil | 2019 | SL | 179 | 183 | +4 | |||||||
Giles Jackson | 2019 | SL | 183 | 188 | +5 | |||||||
George Johnson | 2019 | SL | 180 | 193 | +13 | |||||||
TIGHT END | ||||||||||||
Player | Class | GS | Pos | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 15 to 16 | 16 to 17 | 17 to 18 | 18 to 19 |
Sean McKeon | 2016 | 16 | TE | 240 | 248 | 251 | 246 | +8 | +3 | -5 | ||
Nick Eubanks | 2016 | 5 | TE | 236 | 240 | 252 | 256 | +4 | +12 | +4 | ||
Mustapha Muhammad | 2018 | 0 | TE | 244 | 245 | 261 | +1 | +16 | ||||
Luke Schoonmaker | 2018 | 0 | TE | 229 | 231 | 242 | +2 | +11 | ||||
Erick All | 2019 | TE | 225 | 229 | +4 | |||||||
OFFENSIVE LINE | ||||||||||||
Player | Class | GS | Pos | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 15 to 16 | 16 to 17 | 17 to 18 | 18 to 19 |
Jon Runyan Jr. | 2015 | 14 | LT | 275 | 304 | 298 | 310 | 321 | +29 | -6 | +12 | +11 |
Ben Bredeson | 2016 | 33 | LG | 310 | 308 | 320 | 325 | -2 | +12 | +5 | ||
Michael Onwenu | 2016 | 22 | RG | 350 | 350 | 350 | 350 | - | - | - | ||
Stephen Spanellis | 2016 | 0 | C/G | 335 | 307 | 300 | 295 | -28 | -7 | -5 | ||
Andrew Vastardis | 2016 | 0 | G | 305 | 311 | 317 | 319 | +6 | +6 | +2 | ||
Cesar Ruiz | 2017 | 18 | C | 316 | 319 | 319 | +3 | - | ||||
Andrew Stueber | 2017 | 2 | T | 314 | 323 | 334 | +9 | +11 | ||||
Jalen Mayfield | 2018 | 0 | T | 275 | 296 | 319 | +21 | +23 | ||||
Ryan Hayes | 2018 | 0 | T | 262 | 271 | 299 | +9 | +28 | ||||
Chuck Filiaga | 2017 | 0 | G | 345 | 341 | 341 | -4 | - | ||||
Joel Honigford | 2017 | 0 | G | 275 | 295 | 284 | +20 | -11 | ||||
Nolan Rumler | 2019 | C | 290 | 321 | +31 | |||||||
Zach Carpenter | 2019 | G | 310 | 320 | +10 | |||||||
Karsen Barnhart | 2019 | G/T | 273 | 301 | +28 | |||||||
Jack Stewart | 2019 | G | 280 | 291 | +11 | |||||||
Trente Jones | 2019 | T | 282 | 294 | +12 | |||||||
Trevor Keegan | 2019 | T | 310 | 316 | +6 | |||||||
DEFENSIVE TACKLE | ||||||||||||
Player | Class | GS | Pos | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 15 to 16 | 16 to 17 | 17 to 18 | 18 to 19 |
Carlo Kemp | 2016 | 12 | NT | 255 | 264 | 280 | 286 | +9 | +16 | +6 | ||
Michael Dwumfour | 2016 | 2 | DT | 300 | 290 | 285 | 282 | -10 | -5 | -3 | ||
Ben Mason | 2017 | 2 | DT | 251 | 254 | 270 | +3 | +16 | ||||
Donovan Jeter | 2017 | 0 | DT | 288 | 308 | 290 | +20 | -18 | ||||
Phillip Paea | 2017 | 0 | NT | 275 | 296 | 302 | +21 | +6 | ||||
Mazi Smith | 2019 | DT | 303 | 305 | +2 | |||||||
Chris Hinton | 2019 | NT | 265 | 303 | +38 | |||||||
Michael Morris | 2019 | DT | 260 | 262 | +2 | |||||||
DEFENSIVE END | ||||||||||||
Player | Class | GS | Pos | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 15 to 16 | 16 to 17 | 17 to 18 | 18 to 19 |
Mike Danna | 2019* | 16* | WDE | 238 | 250 | 250 | 257 | 261 | +12 | - | +7 | +4 |
Josh Uche | 2016 | 0 | SAM | 217 | 226 | 238 | 250 | +9 | +12 | +12 | ||
Kwity Paye | 2017 | 4 | SDE | 241 | 260 | 277 | +19 | +17 | ||||
Aidan Hutchinson | 2018 | 0 | SDE | 258 | 268 | 278 | +10 | +10 | ||||
Luiji Vilain | 2017 | 0 | WDE | 242 | 255 | 244 | +13 | -11 | ||||
Julius Welschof | 2018 | 0 | SDE | 253 | 253 | 278 | - | +25 | ||||
Taylor Upshaw | 2018 | 0 | WDE | 240 | 246 | 240 | +6 | -6 | ||||
David Ojabo | 2019 | SDE | 252 | 245 | -7 | |||||||
Gabe Newburg | 2019 | SDE | 237 | 250 | +13 | |||||||
LINEBACKER | ||||||||||||
Player | Class | GS | Pos | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 15 to 16 | 16 to 17 | 17 to 18 | 18 to 19 |
Jordan Glasgow | 2015 | 2 | VIP | 200 | 210 | 210 | 223 | 226 | +10 | - | +13 | +3 |
Khaleke Hudson | 2016 | 23 | VIP | 205 | 205 | 220 | 220 | - | +15 | - | ||
Devin Gil | 2016 | 14 | WLB | 230 | 220 | 231 | 236 | -10 | +11 | +5 | ||
Josh Ross | 2017 | 1 | MLB | 229 | 225 | 232 | -4 | +7 | ||||
Jordan Anthony | 2017 | 0 | MLB | 236 | 245 | 245 | +9 | - | ||||
Cameron McGrone | 2018 | 0 | WLB | 225 | 228 | 232 | +3 | +4 | ||||
Michael Barrett | 2018 | 0 | WLB | 215 | 224 | 227 | +9 | +3 | ||||
Charles Thomas | 2019 | MLB | 222 | 233 | +11 | |||||||
Anthony Solomon | 2019 | VIP | 190 | 205 | +15 | |||||||
Joey Velazquez | 2019 | SAM | 205 | 213 | +8 | |||||||
SAFETY | ||||||||||||
Player | Class | GS | Pos | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 15 to 16 | 16 to 17 | 17 to 18 | 18 to 19 |
Josh Metellus | 2016 | 25 | SS | 204 | 199 | 204 | 218 | -5 | +5 | +14 | ||
J'Marick Woods | 2017 | 1 | FS | 203 | 210 | 213 | +7 | +3 | ||||
Brad Hawkins | 2017 | 1 | NK | 204 | 213 | 218 | +9 | +5 | ||||
Sammy Faustin | 2018 | 0 | SS | 190 | 187 | 195 | -3 | +8 | ||||
German Green | 2018 | 0 | FS | 178 | 175 | 180 | -3 | +5 | ||||
Daxton Hill | 2019 | FS | 186 | 190 | +4 | |||||||
Quinten Johnson | 2019 | SS | 190 | 198 | +8 | |||||||
CORNERBACK | ||||||||||||
Player | Class | GS | Pos | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 15 to 16 | 16 to 17 | 17 to 18 | 18 to 19 |
Lavert Hill | 2016 | 25 | CB | 168 | 177 | 181 | 182 | +9 | +4 | +1 | ||
Ambry Thomas | 2017 | 0 | CB | 179 | 183 | 182 | +4 | -1 | ||||
Jaylen Kelly-Powell | 2017 | 0 | CB | 173 | 184 | 180 | +11 | -4 | ||||
Vincent Gray | 2018 | 0 | CB | 180 | 184 | 185 | +4 | +1 | ||||
Gemon Green | 2018 | 0 | CB | 175 | 174 | 180 | -1 | +6 | ||||
Jalen Perry | 2019 | CB | 185 | 190 | +5 | |||||||
DJ Turner | 2019 | CB | 165 | 180 | +15 |
[Hit THE JUMP for the position-by-position excessively optimistic obsessiveness]
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Quarterback: At 245 Joe Milton is a…I really don't like to say this word guys…unit. While Ninja Shea and his gazelle of a backup are in the way for now, that redshirt freshman behind them remains quite an intriguing prospect down the road. I seem to recall another team that had a rocket-armed giant third string QB who worked out sorta well.
Running Back: I'm a little disappointed that Christian Turner isn't a bit heavier since he looked scrawny last year, but really there's no change here and there wasn't expected to be.
Receiver: Ditto. And like Turner I wanted to see a few more pounds on Ronnie Bell going into his second year. It's nice to see that Cornelius Johnson came in at 209, which is sized to play immediately. If it looks like they won't get at least two guys back from this year's trio, I'd expect them to work Johnson in.
Tight End: One of the offseason notes in my first Football Bits draft of the fall is the staff is really happy with McKeon, who really did drop fat and build muscle to come back at what they think his ideal playing weight should be.
Both redshirt freshmen really progressed. Mustapha Muhammad looked a year away from competing last year. Now he's up to 261 on the roster. If he's still a top passing threat, that's getting into Kaiju territory. Luke Schoonmaker was up 11 pounds, but at 242 he's still on the long-term plan.
Offensive Tackle: Collectively, the current OT two-deep has added 124 pounds in two years.
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Starting left tackle Jon Runyan Jr. isn't any taller but he's up 33 pounds since Herbert got here.
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Andrew Steuber is now 334—in case you were worried Onwenu wouldn't have a bash brother now that Juwann Bushell-Beatty's gone.
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But Not So Fast My Friend: Redshirt freshman Jalen Mayfield is 319, up 44(!) pounds from when he arrived, and another 20 pounds from his junior to senior years of high school. The transformation is complete.
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Redshirt freshman Ryan Hayes is 1 pound short of 300. He was 250 pounds and listed as a tight end when he got here a year ago.
A reminder that Hayes and Mayfield were "Frey types" and the question with those is usually whether they can gain the weight. Ben Herbert and Abigail O'Connor, come out and take a bow. Frey-type true freshman Trente Jones (294) arrived 12 pounds heavier than expected, and could be ready to compete as early as next year.
Guard and Center: Onwenu has finally completed his long journey from Jennifer Lawrence Okay dot gif "350" to 350.
There was a lot of same over the rest of the two-deep. I don't know what to make of Chuck Filiaga staying at exactly 341 because he came in a break-down-then-build-up guy. Reading Joel Honigford is down to 284 is a disappointment because he came in one of those super-flexy prospects to hang muscle on. He was 295 last year, and seemed poised to pass 300 and be in the first group competing to replace Bredeson and Onwenu next year. This is a A LOT to read into a silly weight metric, but I was burned by following Lloyd Carr's OG recruiting back when that entailed buying magazines to do it, and recall all too many guys who came in at 270 and got stuck at 285. It'll be interesting to see him on the field this year, or if someone else gets on the field before him.
Speaking of that competition: wow the freshmen reported big. Nolan Rumler is already 321(!!) to go with the chatter he looks ready to see the field immediately. The other guy they said will definitely get his four was Zach Carpenter, who arrived at 320. Karsen Barnhart was supposed to be a Frey-type but already Herberted up past 300. Even Jack Stewart came in near plausible playing weight. That sound you hear is Michigan State's ultra-light line looking at the pile of sandwiches we had prepared like "you gonna finish that?"
Say the words and I'll give you a piece.
Defensive Tackle: The three-tech spot saw the most movement. Michael Dwumfour was working back from injury so it's not surprising he wasn't able to add much—282 is still a bit light. I'm also worried about Carlo Kemp, who once played linebacker for a few snaps, because I thought the plan was to have him bulk up more to take nose tackle. He maxed out at 286. That's bigger than a Bo middle guard, but pretty dang small for even a Renes-style modern nose. Reminder that his YMRMFSPA was Jibreel Black, who played DT his senior year, and was really too small to be doing so, because Michigan oddly wasn't willing to play Quintin Washington.
The spring hype winners both shifted dramatically, though in opposite directions. Donovan Jeter dropped 16 pounds after popping above 300 last year. That could be a good thing since they're expecting him to play 3-tech and try to get some pass rush. BEN MASON is still listed at DT and is up 16 pounds, which suggests he's been preparing. At 270 he's still not an every-down DT, and my guess is that move is a specialty thing that doesn't pull ol' Murder Face away from fullbackian things permanently.
The good news: Chris Hinton arrived over 300 pounds, which is LET'S GO weight. [Remembers when sites wouldn't re-rank him as a DT until the very end].
Defensive End: Here now we've got some interesting gains, because Brown has been stockpiling guys for the Rashan Gary/Chris Wormley position of Anchor, which is more of a DE/DT tweener job that lines up inside a TE than an MSU or OSU-style DE who lines up outside tight ends and does the most pass rushing. Kwity Paye (+17) and Aidan Hutchinson (+10) are now both in that 277-280 range where they could plausibly play inside, and certainly can handle B gaps from the Anchor position. Neither are weakside ends anymore. Behind them, our German mogulist Julius Welschof added 25(!!!) pounds to get into the same range as those guys. It's possible any of these guys could grow into 3-techs, or be used as such now against lighter/spread-er teams. Another 13 pounds on Gabe Newburg since he enrolled in spring are a good sign for a similar reason: his best self is a zone-murdering DT with some pass rush.
We've lost some girth on the Winovich side. Taylor Upshaw is down 6 pounds when he was hoped to grow into an anchor or tackle—at 240 he doesn't seem ready for much more than spot snaps as a pass rusher. Luigi Vilain is down 11 pounds, to 244. That's more of a mystery because he wasn't able to work out much last year, but 244 for him sounds more like a Uche role than the every-down player Winovich became.
Speaking of Josh Uche, he's past the 250 mark (up 12 pounds) that I mentally consider the beginning of the curve for guys who can stand to TE/T double-teams. Uche was 217 when he first stepped on campus so he's come a very long way. With Danna around Uche doesn't have to be on the field every down, but it's no longer a certainty that our best pass rusher has to wait for passing downs to ply his trade.
Linebacker: Not a lot of movement here, and not a lot expected after last year, when Hudson (+15), Glasgow (+13), Gil (+11) and Anthony (+9) were all growing from tweeners into the right size for regular work. Josh Ross (+7) is up to 232, a smallish MLB, but then that's the style these days. Cam McGrone didn't have far to go but he's also past the 230 mark. Michael Barrett is close at 227 to go with his official move from viper to the inside linebacker depth chart. All three freshmen arrived well larger than expected, with Charles Thomas already playing weight (233) for MLB, Anthony Solomon at least at big safety size and into the Viper range, and Joey Velazquez the same size as Uche when he got here.
Safety: Similar story to linebacker, except the senior Josh Metellus (+14) is now a very buff 218, echoing the (arguably unhelpful) transformation of last year's defensive co-captain Tyree Kinnel from normal-sized junior to rocked up senior. It's good to see Sammy Faustin, a member of 2017's Team Long and Lanky, who's up 8 pounds to 195, though the question with him is more one of whether he's got the speed and agility to play man against slots.
Cornerback: The good news is Ambry Thomas is listed at 182, just one pound below where he was last year and the same weight as Lavert Hill. The bad news is I had a report he was in the upper 190s by the bowl season last year, so he's down perhaps as much as 17 pounds from the mysterious stomach ailment. Also Jaylen Kelly-Powell lost four pounds, putting him at just 180. In fact the heaviest cornerback on the roster right now is 190-pound true freshman Jalen Perry. It's not that they're not climbing—Gemon Green leads the group at +6—and you don't expect corners to grow that much. But I was hoping one of the tall guys would fill out more. The last bullet here is DJ Turner II, who at least isn't the 165 his profile used to show.
The New Numbers
Not counting walk-ons, here are the fall enrollees' numbers for your rostering enjoyment:
OFFENSE:
- 6 –Cornelius Johnson (other than Je'Ron Stokes I can't think of another #6 WR)
- 15 – Giles Jackson (Breaston)
- 22 – George Johnson, who's listed at WR. (Bo-era wingback number: Glenn Doughty, Ralph Clayton, also Darryl Stonum)
- 52 – Karsen Barnhart (Mason Cole, Rod Payne, Steve Schilling, Ricky Barnum, Jim Czirr, Chris Ziemann)
- 53 – Trente Jones (Tom Cecchini, Jerry Goebel, Jim Hackett, Guy Murdock)
- 55 – Nolan Rumler (Andy Christopfel, David Dawson)
- 58 – Zach Carpenter (John Ghindia, Bill Muir, John Padjen, Chris Bryant,
- 70 – Jack Stewart (Arnie Simkus, Nolan Ulizio, George Genyk, James D. Hall, Jeremy Ciulla, Mark Erhardt)
- 77 – Trevor Keegan (Long, Lewan, Jansen, Art Walker, Guy Curtis, Trezelle, Grant Newsome, Will Ohlenroth, Tony Pape)
DEFENSE:
- 4 – Mike Danna (Reuben Jones)
- 5 – DJ Turner II (Peppers, Courtney Avery, Charles Stewart, James Whitley)
- 9 – Joey Velazquez (McCray, Marrell Evans)
- 10 – Anthony Solomon (Devin Bush, Derek Howard was the HSP of his day)
- 13 – Charles Thomas (Larry Stevens but he moved to DE. Keith Bostic but he moved to DB)
- 15 – Chris Hinton (Chase Winovich)
- 23 – Quinten Johnson (Tyree Kinnel, Dave Bedsun, John Zingales, Woody Hankins, Louis Kovacs, father of Jordan)
- 30 – Daxton Hill (Brad Cochran, Freddy Baer, Thomas "Prison Abs" Gordon, Markus Curry, Andre Weathers, Stevie Brown for a year)
- 80 – Michael Morris (Alan Branch)
What about the kickers???
Moody gained 20 pounds, Nordin lost some weight so now he's 2 pounds less than Moody.
I’ll be much less than Moody if they all go through the uprights.
I would be less Moody if I LOST 20 pounds.
If I lost 20 pounds I would be dangerously skinny.
If I lose 20 I can get off high blood pressure meds. First world problems!
August 5th, 2019 at 10:40 PM ^
Not when all weight loss is good.
They moving moody to running back or something?
Just an FYI, Velazquez should be +8, not +12.
Moody's up 20? That seems like a lot for a kicker, but he did have better distance at the spring game. Wonder when Nordin is going to grow up?
It may seem like a lot, but he was rail thin last year. After the weight gain he’s listed at 6’0” 198 lbs. So it’s not like we’re rolling out Joey Julius or anything.
If you’re going to roll out Joey Julius, bring a buddy and lift with your legs.
I’m 6 ft and weigh 178. My wife and my dr can assure you that I am not rail thin. I am technically slightly overweight.
#dadbod.
August 5th, 2019 at 10:51 PM ^
I'm sorry, but that's not overweight for a 6 foot male.
Maybe not overweight but could easily be out of shape.
Don't they call that "skinny-fat"?
A friend of mine was 6'2 and 135. Obviously very skinny, but when he gained weight he had a noticeable paunch and was still under 170. People can be built quite differently.
That video has nigh on 300k views - how many are due to this (bi-?) annual post?
Aubrey Solomon with a good attitude would be looking really nice on this roster right about now.
I think Mazi is going to play right away and be a leader on the line as the season progresses. Hinton’s weight gain is great news. He is going to play a key role as well.
We may be watching the beginning of the best interior duo I can recall. I am excited for these two kids.
I'd slow my roll on Mazi being a "leader" on the line this season. I hope you're right but its pretty tough for a true freshman to physically handle OL players that are 3-4 years older than them. But I do think he'll be good with some experience.
August 6th, 2019 at 11:34 PM ^
We will see. I get the challenge for Freshman at that position.
He is physically ready right now by size and strength. He has really good quickness and plays low. He already weighs more than Kemp, Jeter, and Dwumfour and didn’t have to bulk up to get there. He came in early and and enters camp with six months of UofMs weight training under his belt.
He is going to get an opportunity because we need the snaps.
Our DTs need to get on the same meal plan as the OL.
Has someone already done the weights of the starting OL for Wisconsin, ND, MSU, PSU and OSU?
I gotta say, I’m loving the weight of our OL (assuming this is good weight). We’ve been called out by opponents regarding how small our line was in the past. (I believe Cris Carter said this). You can say this now.
Vilain and Metellus jump out as concerning. I was hoping Vilain could get past his injury issues and show off his potential. Maybe he put on bad weight while he was hurt that he’s shedding, but dropping into SAM-tweener range is not the direction you want to see him going his junior year.
With Metellus, I hope he didn’t bulk up too much and lose speed and explosiveness. He was already a big hitter, and the Kinnel worries are apt.
He’s a junior by class but isn’t he a freshman by eligibility...could be wrong on the redshirt rules but thought he had standard redshirt and a medical redshirt on the books leaving him 4 years of eligibility.
August 5th, 2019 at 10:41 PM ^
You don't get both. He has two medical redshirts, but he has to apply for the 6th year when/if he wants it.
Beef!
350-350-350-350!
As James Earl Jones says - we have the meat! On both lines.
Different black actor.
August 6th, 2019 at 11:08 PM ^
You're thinking James Earl Jones, but his name is Ving Rhames. Played Marsellus Wallace opposite Bruce Willis in Pulp Fiction.
As a regular reminder that roster measurements are sometimes just made up and always have been, Gattis just said Onwenu weighs 370 and has the lowest body fat of the OL.
Anyone else getting the sense that when all is said and done Shea is going to have been the weakest of the Patterson, Mcaffery, Milton triumvirate? And that can only be a positive thing.
August 5th, 2019 at 10:07 PM ^
If quarterback performance is the direct result of higher body weight, then... Yes?
(I don't have any reason to believe Milton will be better than Patterson, but--if it happened--that would of course be great.)
I wanna see the ‘Cam Newton Package’ for Milton this season.
From the play I was thinking more Andrew Luck...laser rocket arm that might not be the fleetest of foot but can pull the ball down and gain chunks of yards but also lower the boom at the end of the run. Luck is 6-3 245 Milton 6-4 245.
Milton has some jets if i remember correctly
*4.5 40 time
August 5th, 2019 at 10:32 PM ^
He didn't run much in HS, but he looked good running last year in a limited sample. I hope Milton becomes another excellent Michigan QB, and I believe he will. However, if he does gets passed by a younger QB, I'd love for Jay Riemersma to give him a call and tell him about his story. At that size, and with a QB knowledge base, it would be worth considering.
August 6th, 2019 at 12:12 AM ^
In today's transfer environment you won't see many of those stories again.
August 6th, 2019 at 11:12 AM ^
Zach Gentry came in as a large 4-star QB and left as a TE drafted by the NFL.
1. I didn't say you will never see them again.
2. Gentry switched before a) the Mississippi players were given immediate eligibility because the poor innocents didn't realize Freeze was lying to them; b) Justin Fields was given immediate eligibility because someone called him a bad name (never mind that the individual who said it was immediately kicked off the Georgia baseball team); and c) Tate Martell was given immediate eligibility because his coaches liked a new player better than they liked him.
3. Gentry was advised by a coach who is regarded as a straight shooter who knows what it takes to play QB in the NFL and is a good judge whether someone is likely to excel as a TE.
Funny you'd say that-- Luck and Newton had nearly identical times in the combine.
I don’t. Specific packages for players on offense almost never work. See e.g. the Pepcat
So the official team scale at Michigan only goes up to 350?
That's exactly what I thought when I saw that!
August 6th, 2019 at 12:41 PM ^
"350? That's as high as the sc..."
"350....not great, not terrible."
Vilain and Upshaw losing weight is concerning
Also, is Milton getting that large a little concerning for his mobility?
August 6th, 2019 at 11:14 AM ^
Cam Newton is exactly the same measurements as Milton is now.
Joe Milton at 245!! All muscle - will annihilate tacklers.
Seth - you have f-ing killed it. This is by far the best UM roster content on the entire freaking internet universe ... even the pay sites like ESPN, Rivals, etc are just slow dumb and [generally] happy ... your work here is the Leaders and Best. Go Blue !!!
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