Warde Chimes in on Cris Carter
"Consider the source."
December 6th, 2018 at 9:47 AM ^
Succint, yet so accurate. I'm kinda surprised he said anything, because he usually doesn't.
December 6th, 2018 at 9:55 AM ^
I am glad he did though. Just cut the rumor off at the legs before it gets very far
December 6th, 2018 at 10:20 AM ^
Me too - wish he would have used the phrase “jive turkey” too
December 6th, 2018 at 9:48 AM ^
Carter needs to have fall guy to take the heat for his stupid comments.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:41 AM ^
I hear Urban Meyer will be available after the Rose Bowl
December 6th, 2018 at 9:48 AM ^
Fuck Cris Carter...
December 6th, 2018 at 10:31 AM ^
Don't tell me what to do.
December 6th, 2018 at 3:45 PM ^
He Buckeye born and bread
I wandered over to 11w yesterday to see what the masses thought about the Ryan Day hire, and there were more comments in the “Cris Carter sez Hairball is for realz leaving” thread. They bought it, hook, line, and sinker. The fucking sheer stupidity that leaks out of that fan base is astounding. I can’t imagine why anyone would take anything Cris Carter says seriously.
December 6th, 2018 at 9:49 AM ^
I consider him to be a hollow horn, a poster child for everything that is wrong with the internet.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:07 AM ^
He’s no Hackett, but come on man...
/s
December 6th, 2018 at 11:14 AM ^
...everything wrong with the Internet and sports TV.
Here is an old article that trashes Carter while saying his departure from ESPN is a good thing for the network (I think the two shit shows belong together):
http://thesportsquotient.com/nfl/2016/5/11/why-espns-breakup-with-cris-carter-is-good-news
This link also has video of Carter's "fall guy" comment, if you want to see it.
December 6th, 2018 at 9:49 AM ^
Nice to hear Warde respond to this (albeit, it was probably unnecessary).
December 6th, 2018 at 10:27 AM ^
He probably needed to say something considering the irrational part of our fanbase.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:32 AM ^
Touche
December 6th, 2018 at 10:55 AM ^
I think most of the fanbase knows Harbaugh isn’t going anywhere, but we’re not going to stand by and let Cris Carter say whatever he wants about Coach without addressing it.
December 6th, 2018 at 9:50 AM ^
I have absolutely no fear that Jimmy is leaving. I do have a hard time understanding why Bacon and Warde have had time to make public comments but Harbaugh has not, tho. I mean, just shoot it down. I don’t see what’s to be gained in not doing so.
December 6th, 2018 at 9:56 AM ^
JH is not really a fan of the media right now (if you haven't noticed). Why give them anything especially when mentally he is focused on shaking talented HS player's hands, putting 62-39 on everyone's helmets and winning a bowl game.
December 6th, 2018 at 9:57 AM ^
It's not like it was a national story or anything. One guy who is not known for breaking news said it on air during a TV show. If Harbaugh responds it will literally gives more attention to it than it had when just Chris Carter was talking on TV.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:02 AM ^
Harbaugh doesn't need to dignify Carter with a response. He can let Warde handle it while he focuses on more important things
December 6th, 2018 at 10:08 AM ^
He has never done that, anywhere. He won't address the rumors, only act as though he does not know they exist. There is a remote chance that when he says that it is actually true, though, Harbaugh certainly walks to the beat of his own drum.
I guess I am in the minority of people, however, that does not think it incredibly ridiculous that Harbaugh would be very interested in the Packers job. It is close to his home, it is a very storied franchise with legendary coaches and players and he would walk right into working with one of the best quarterbacks of all time. I am quite sure he is at least answering the phone if the call is placed.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:44 AM ^
Its not closer to his home than is Schembechler Hall. You may not know this, but Jim moved his entire family to Ann Arbor a few years ago. He also setup his parents in a house a few doors down from his not long after he moved his own family. He sends his young kids to the same Catholic grade school that he went to. His family - including his parents - are treated like royalty in Ann Arbor.
I doubt he's all that interested in Green Bay. Especially since (to my knowledge) he's never lived there.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:55 AM ^
He built his parents a house. His damn near 80 year old parents.
You don't do that if you're not planning on staying a while.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:03 AM ^
While I agree with you, and at the same time believe people metaphorically, that have money coming out their ears, do funny things with their Benjimans.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:57 AM ^
I know all of that. I still don't think that the possibility of him being interested in coaching Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers in the same NFL football division that he played in for most of his career is all that far-fetched. It is not like he would be moving half way around the world. Coaches make moves, they take opportunities. I am not saying that I think he would take this one, or that Green Bay is even interested, but the logistics of "living in Ann Arbor" are not like a built in shield against him being interested in other jobs. I certainly think if the Packers make a phone call it will definitely make it passed the "screener."
December 6th, 2018 at 11:05 AM ^
I look at it very differently - Harbaugh has complete control over everything that happens in his program at UM. In his 4 years in the NFL, Harbaugh had little control over the roster, the free agents, the draft choices, etc. I don't think he would be interested in any gig that didn't allow him to have total control. Do you think the Packers would give that to him? I don't think any NFL team will give that to him. When Carroll got that he had already won 2 NCs and built USC to be the premier program in college football. Harbaugh, unfortunately, has not done that yet.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:13 AM ^
The only issue with that is the question of whether Harbaugh doing that at Michigan is really within the realm of possibility. I think coaches want to win, regardless of who they are and where they are. I am quite certain that Harbaugh did not sign up for "co-champions of the East" with no conference title game appearances. He is four years in and the only question coming his way is "when are you going to win?" That has to become tiring after a while. He has also spoke frankly about his dissatisfaction with the current playoff structure and has openly stated he believes that there should be 16 teams in the Playoff. (As in the NFL).
I am not trying to stir the pot, I obviously have no real "information" about this topic. I guess there are two different questions:
Does Carter know what the hell he is talking about? Lol absolutely not.
Would Harbaugh be interested in coaching the Green Bay Packers? I don't really know. Maybe? There is reason to speculate that he could.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:31 AM ^
"Would Harbaugh be interested in coaching the Green Bay Packers? I don't really know. Maybe? There is reason to speculate that he could."
For me this sits firmly in the 'Borrowing trouble' category.
He's stated before that he hasn't been interested. Anything can happen, but I'm not going to worry or speculate about it.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:46 AM ^
I am just differentiating between "could Harbaugh have interest in another job" and "does what Carter is saying have any merit." There are some people who meet any discussion of Harbaugh leaving Michigan is some completely ridiculous notion that would never happen. I don't and have never felt like that about the possibility if the right opportunity arose.
December 6th, 2018 at 12:26 PM ^
You are not differentiating between anything. You are concern trolling. There is absolutely no reason to even speculate he would want a GB job in a city he has no connection to with a flawed team and an aging prima donna at QB.
December 6th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^
It would only be "concern trolling" if I was concerned. Given that I moved on from "Harbaugh must coach here and without Harbaugh we are all doomed" sentiment like two seasons ago I am not shaking in my boots over any such possibilities.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:04 AM ^
He would also walk right into an organization that wants to win championships, and win them sooner rather than later, unlike most of the NFL. They're down a little bit this year but can come roaring back next season or the one after as long as Rodgers remains healthy. Dude is a magician.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:08 AM ^
That is kind of what I am saying. I don't think Harbaugh has any interest in leaving Michigan for [Random NFL Opportunity] in the same way that I don't think Mike Krzyzewski has any interest in leaving Duke to coach [Random NBA Opportunity]. But if the Lakers had an opening this off-season and asked to have a sit down?
December 6th, 2018 at 10:08 AM ^
Harbaugh is in a no-win situation in responding to NFL rumors. Responding:
- Makes it a bigger story
- Means he has to respond to all future rumors or the act of not responding becomes a story
- Encourages any CFB analyst looking for some clicks to start more NFL rumors
If he says something recruits will hear more about Harbaugh to the NFL than if he doesn't.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:14 AM ^
No, he’s not. If the rumor is truly groundless, all he needs to do is issue a one line reply: “I am not interested in the {insert sucky NFL team} job. I’m staying at Michigan”.
If he won’t or can’t say that, the rumor will persist until the job is filled.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:19 AM ^
If Harbaugh says that the story continues but with "Is Harbaugh telling the truth about Green Bay? My sources say he's waiting until after the season..." and they run clips of every coach lying before taking a job.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:39 AM ^
Avoiding the rumor or refusing to deny it makes things even worse. If the media try what you suggest, then the next time the rumor comes up, HARBAUGH can put up a video of the media spouting bullshit.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:48 AM ^
Do you represent the PR firm that Harbaugh's agent has contacted about how best to handle this very situation? Because I have money that says his agent has contacted a PR firm about how to handle this very situation on many occasions.
I mean, do you really think people like Harbaugh's agent leave this up to chance?
December 6th, 2018 at 11:12 AM ^
Is it the same PR firm that is handling the Nasser scandal for John Engler?
December 6th, 2018 at 12:41 PM ^
It is actually the other way around. By not stating anything he gives to zero credence. If he were to say anything, that would only give Carter more air time and add legs to his "sources" even when he would completely deny it.
Because JH could swear on a Bible that he is not going anywhere. Do you honestly believe that EVERY media blow hard (particularly one with hidden OSU agendas) would just say "Oh, JH has spoken, end of topic."? No, it certainly would not and it would only add more unnecessary air time to a wild ass rumor that Carter is just trying to stir up.
By JH 'ignoring' the rumor and allowing Warde and Bacon speak on it just keeps Carter whimpy ass comment where it belongs...... In the never ending pile of Internet garbage of BS
December 6th, 2018 at 11:12 AM ^
He responded in the past and these rumors have been demonstrably false for years so he can put out that video anyway if he wants to.
The thing is, everyone already knows sports media is bullshit so putting the video out (or any response) just means another round of Harbaugh + NFL headlines and speculation (my sources say Harbaugh....is waiting for a job on the West Coast to open up....will see what John does first....wants to win one conference championship at Michigan first so he can feel good about leaving....bullshit bullshit NFL bullshit).
More broadly: The more people talk about Harbaugh going to the NFL, the more the general public will have the takeaway "Harbaugh will or might go to the NFL" regardless of what the actual context of the discussion is.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:23 AM ^
If Carter's goal is negative recruiting in favor of OSU, I don't see how saying "CC is a dope and I'm not looking at any other jobs" is no-win. I know that this has been Jimmy's MO, and I don't care that much, but it seems easy enough to do. I think not responding to something like this creates more clickbait junk.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:34 AM ^
Jim responded to this same rumor stuff once if you recall the Jive Turkey days.
I think the lack of public comment on the same rumors over the past few years tells you how well responding worked.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:55 AM ^
I'm with you on this one. If he responds to this rumor, he has to respond to all of them. Then you just get people making shit up just so they can get him to respond.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:22 AM ^
You mean the way that Urban did?
December 6th, 2018 at 10:56 AM ^
He’s shot it down before and it still continues. Is Coach supposed to go on twitter after every season and say “I’m happy here and not going anywhere”?
December 6th, 2018 at 11:45 AM ^
If JH commented every time one of these commentators says he’s leaving, that’s all he would do. Why bother?
December 6th, 2018 at 9:50 AM ^
+10 respect points for Manuel here.
I like it.
December 6th, 2018 at 9:52 AM ^
Representing Buckeye Nation like a true scumbag. Barely liked Carter as a player, but his stint in the media has proven him to be a bitter Buckeye homer.
December 6th, 2018 at 9:54 AM ^
Memo to Warde:
Excellent retort.
Please consider using this one again in the future the next time Jim Delany says something that is idiotic.
December 6th, 2018 at 9:58 AM ^
Cris Carter is whipped cream covered dog shit. With very little whipped cream involved.