Jared Wangler proves Durkin, who said he'd "never play here," wrong
Exhibit #234 of DJ Durkin being an asshole.
Apparently in 2015, he told Wangler he'd never play at Michigan. IIRC Wangler was a walk-on at the time, so Durkin is basically shitting on a kid that isn't even on scholarship and is literally volunteering his time for the team.
I'm so glad we traded him in for Dr. Blitz when we did.
October 9th, 2018 at 7:20 AM ^
Wangler is a scholarship athlete. Either way, a really shitty thing to say to a kid.
October 9th, 2018 at 7:49 AM ^
Yeah, you're right, he always was on scholarship, I had him mixed up with his brother.
October 9th, 2018 at 7:56 AM ^
Do you guys remember what Harbaugh said to Speight on that video from HBO sports? Coaches say things to motivate kids and to get kids attention. I remember my coaches saying shitty things to me. Michael Jordan got cut. Sports are tough sometimes. This world we live in now is kinda soft. Coaches don't have to stroke kids and tell them everything is gonna be OK, just keep trying.
October 9th, 2018 at 8:07 AM ^
Didn’t Bo tell a freshman Harbaugh that he’d never play a down at Michigan, or something along those lines?
October 9th, 2018 at 8:16 AM ^
Lou Holtz also famous for this.
October 9th, 2018 at 8:25 AM ^
So was Tyler Durden. “You’ll never be a part of Project Mayhem. You’re too fat. And your tits are too big.”
October 9th, 2018 at 8:31 AM ^
His name was Bob
October 9th, 2018 at 8:36 AM ^
In death, a member of Project Mayhem has a name. His name is Robert Paulson...
October 9th, 2018 at 9:58 AM ^
His name is Robert Paulson.
October 9th, 2018 at 12:23 PM ^
And he had bitch tits
October 9th, 2018 at 12:29 PM ^
Bob had bitch tits...
October 9th, 2018 at 2:49 PM ^
Robert Paulson*
and you're not your fucking khakis's
But, there are people who wear clothing and there a people whose clothing wears them...
October 9th, 2018 at 8:18 AM ^
In Bo’s first year, The first time Bo met Dan Dierdorf he grabbed his stomach and told him he was too fat to play....
IIRC, Dierdorf was already a starter
Motivating kids isn’t a bad thing.
Of course, if Durkin said that to Jared while making him watch Death Videos while demeaning him....
October 9th, 2018 at 8:38 AM ^
Pretty sure Bo said this to every kid he coached at one point or another. People have gone soft today. If Wangler stayed at linebacker he never would have seen any meaningful snaps. Good for him for carving out a role on this team and using what Durkin said as motivation, but this is hardly an indictment on Durkin's character.
October 9th, 2018 at 12:21 PM ^
"People were tougher a generation or two ago."
-- says every generation since the Trojan War.
October 9th, 2018 at 9:05 AM ^
Bo told everybody they'd never play a down at Michigan. He even kicked kids off the team, and fired coaches regularly.
The next day was a new start for all of them!
October 9th, 2018 at 1:26 PM ^
Lloyd Carr said it Ty Law, its why he hated UM after he went pro....
October 9th, 2018 at 8:44 AM ^
Harbaugh said something to the effect of, “if you’re going to look at me like that, go fucking play somewhere else” which is entirely different. He was telling Speight to pay attention and listen to him or go elsewhere. Not “you suck and are terrible.”
October 9th, 2018 at 12:25 PM ^
Well...he did go play somewhere else in the end.
October 9th, 2018 at 10:19 AM ^
"The world we live in now is kinda soft." Man, I'm one of the resident old farts here and I am sick to fucking death of this meme. I'm trying to come up with all the misery I've faced that someone 25 has missed and I'm coming up blank.
October 9th, 2018 at 12:47 PM ^
...could that be...because...you are old?
October 9th, 2018 at 2:12 PM ^
That's pretty good and I gave you an upvote. Now to be all serious and shit, my grandfather was an orphan at 13 and had to work the lumber camps in northern Michigan to feed himself (ending his education). He moved on to factory work, got fired for refusing to buy War Bonds in 1918, and then drove a street car. He died in 1943, just in time for my dad to go to war for a couple of years (the silver lining being that it paid for his UM engineering degree). My life has been blissful. Would my grandfather or dad say I'm soft? No. They'd say, "Thank God you didn't have to do the shit we did. That's exactly what we hoped for."
End rant.
October 9th, 2018 at 10:50 AM ^
Michael Jordan did not get cut. He was forced to play on the freshman team, because his school had a rule that said freshmen had to play on the freshman team.
Otherwise your post is on-point.
October 9th, 2018 at 11:41 AM ^
Jordan played jv because he wasn't good enough to play varsity.
October 9th, 2018 at 11:10 AM ^
I missed that video, just wondering, what did Harbaugh say to Wilton? What year was this? thanks
October 9th, 2018 at 12:14 PM ^
He said something along the lines that he was trying to tell Speight how to do the drill correctly, and if Speight was just going to give him attitude he could do it on some other team. That's a far cry, in my opinion, from telling someone he'll never play a down at the school.
October 9th, 2018 at 12:11 PM ^
The world is not "soft", and even if it was maybe a little softness wouldn't have led to the death of a kid at Maryland. Maybe it was a motivating ploy by Durkin, but it's a shitty thing to say to someone and is the equivalent to yelling and screaming. It doesn't make the kid listen to you more, or motivate him to be better at his job. It makes him feel shitty and pissed off at you, and maybe for a couple of people that'll get them to work harder in the short term, but few people find themselves drawn to someone who is an asshole.
October 9th, 2018 at 3:39 PM ^
Somebody like Bo could get away with this stuff because it was so over the top he was almost like a caricature. Guys like that are so charismatic and treat everyone equally that it works because the players kind of band together. And then one day he'll do something nice like ask how's your mother and you feel like you're 10 feet tall. It's pure psychology, and it's the difference between being a guy you'll run through a wall for and an asshole.
October 9th, 2018 at 8:18 AM ^
Something something Dave Brandon something
October 9th, 2018 at 7:28 AM ^
Don Brown is a national treasure - glad to have him with us.
October 9th, 2018 at 7:30 AM ^
Depends on context, but the evidence is adding up that durkin didn't have much empathy for his players.
October 9th, 2018 at 7:33 AM ^
No, see berating and belittling kids is a tactic. And clearly was just what this young man needed. That, and watching animals devouring each other while you eat some waffles at team table.
/s
October 9th, 2018 at 7:36 AM ^
That, and watching animals devouring each other while you eat some waffles at team table.
Yeah, I think Durkin has watched "A Clockwork Orange" a few too many times.
October 9th, 2018 at 8:16 AM ^
I personally can't wait until Durkin takes too many cold pills one day and has some sort of "Altered States" drug-induced moment in the middle of practice, assuming he ever gets to coach another practice, and who knows what film the kids would see then...
October 9th, 2018 at 7:36 AM ^
I'm not trying to be that guy, but this sort of thing is (or was) a pretty common thing for coaches to say to a player. Bo told quite a few contributing players they would "never play another down of football for Michigan again."
October 9th, 2018 at 7:45 AM ^
"I'll treat you all the same... like dogs!"
October 9th, 2018 at 7:48 AM ^
I get that, but I for Wangler to remember it 3 years later seems to imply it was not simply a constructive, motivational thing.
October 9th, 2018 at 8:00 AM ^
Or it motivated him to a TD. Depends on your take.
October 9th, 2018 at 8:20 AM ^
I know I shouldn't make a joke about millenials, safe spaces and participation trophies, but I'm worried I might explode if I don't.
October 9th, 2018 at 8:52 AM ^
As a millennial myself, albeit old enough that I have to add "just barely"...
I get really really tired of pointing out that it wasn't my generation that invented participation trophies and started handing them out.
Also, thanks for the economy, the government, and the retirement crisis. I know it's not your fault personally, but if you're going to generalize my generation, I'll generalize yours. Cheers.
October 9th, 2018 at 9:02 AM ^
You and I are probably the same age. While I'm technically a millennial, it's still fun to make fun of the stereotypes of that generation. Low hanging fruit, if you will.
October 9th, 2018 at 1:07 PM ^
Agreed, if you can't laugh at yourself / generation, you are taking things a little too seriously.
October 9th, 2018 at 9:54 AM ^
The economy is booming. The government is as it always was. Retirement... I won’t have that and I am 41.
October 9th, 2018 at 12:53 PM ^
Economy is booming? For whom? Most people couldn’t cover a $1000 emergency. Rigged economy.
October 9th, 2018 at 9:54 AM ^
He said that to Jim Harbaugh
October 9th, 2018 at 11:56 AM ^
IIRC, Bo kicked Harbaugh off the team. Harbaugh returned a day or two later like nothing happened. Bill Parcells supposedly fired members of his coaching staff all the time - including Belichick - during games, practices, meetings, etc.
October 9th, 2018 at 7:40 AM ^
Not saying it is right for coaches to say this to kids, but do not forget that Bo said the same exact thing to Harbaugh when he was late for a meeting. We all know how that worked out...
October 9th, 2018 at 2:26 PM ^
Different context though. Bo was telling Harbaugh to grow up. Durkin apparently was telling Wangler he had no game.
October 9th, 2018 at 7:42 AM ^
Bo told Harbaugh he would never play a snap at Michigan either.
October 9th, 2018 at 11:55 AM ^
Yes, but Harbaugh was a highly rated QB so that was for motivation. Wrangler walked on.