What happened to Les Miles?

Nobody outside of Mark Mangina (wink) wins at Kansas. 

Dust in the wind.....

all we are is dust in the wind.

Probably has less to do with Les Miles and drives home the point even more that in college football, recruiting and talent level drives the outcomes much more than anything else.  Now, he probably should be better than he's doing, so maybe he's a worse coach than we thought, but he's not horrendous.  I also don't think Dabo, Saban or Meyer are so much better than anyone else though either.  What would be really interesting would be to take a coach somewhere in the middle (good, but not those other three) in people's eyes...maybe a Chris Pederson or something and put him at Alabama.  My guess is he wins multiple national titles.

The only coach out there that could win at Kansas is Matt Campbell...

Speaking of which...

It seems that all great coaches have an expiration date.  Being a championship caliber coach is demanding bordering on insanity.  Going all-out on recruiting, practicing, identifying and maintaining assistant talent, keeping up with the newest offensive and defensive strategies and figuring out how to defeat them... eventually a lot of coaches reach the point where they start giving 90% instead of 110%, and that doesn't win championships anymore.

Kansas football happened.

I think they had some major injury issues this year particularly at QB. And their most dynamic playmaker (Pooka Williams) opted out after 4 games due to a family emergency. I don't think you take too much stock into what happened there this year. Chalk it up to 2020 weirdness. 

This is a Kansas program that hasn't won more than 5 games since 2008 under Mangino. They are beyond bad. David Beatty was breathtakingly awful before Miles. Maybe he's old and the game has passed him by, but it's too early to tell yet whether Kansas will stay awful under him or actually have a pulse. 

What happened to legos?!

It turns out that it is almost harder to not win when you're at LSU and have that fertile and loyal recruiting hotbed in your backyard.

He got traded in for a new Carr... or wait more Miles... I mean it's gotta be you're bull... or you could get a good look at a butcher's ass by sticking your head up there... Shutup Richard!!!

It's tough to quantify

1. He’s old.

2. Kansas has been a perennial doormat since Mangino was found to be both physically and mentally abusing players.

3. LSU was already a title contender when he got there.  He won that Natty with mostly Saban’s players.

4. I had always heard he told Dave Brandon to fuck off because Brandon is insufferable.  Either that or Brandon never approached him because, like a Harbaugh/Brandon dynamic, Brandon wanted someone he could control.  Enter Brady Hoke.

He stayed in coaching too long.  The game passed him by similar to how it was about to pass Carr by.

Who cares? Has anyone solved what happened to Harbaugh yet?

The guy is super old, and hasn't been able to adapt well to the drastic changes CFB has undergone as of late. This tends to happen a lot with "old school" coaching types once they get around their mid 50's. 

Also, Kansas is a dumpster fire, and not many coaches could have success there quickly. Charlie Weiss really did a number on that program by pretty much ignoring non juco recruits, and the next coach didn't pan out. 

Les Miles was never going to be the coach here. ever. Not as long as Lloyd Carr is alive.  I will not divulge details but the story comes from someone extremely close to Carr and the program (former player for Bo). The whole "this is my damn team blah blah blah" was all for show. NOBODY from UM was ever authorized to go and talk to Les, it was a couple of boosters who jumped on a private jet and flew down to beg him to throw his hat in the ring. Les threw Carr under the bus on the recruiting trail after being given some sensitive "Michigan Man" info and Carr found out. He forever burned that bridge I was told. Had nothing to do with him not wanting to be controlled or anything like that. Les is a fucking snake in the grass who only looks out for himself. two close personal friends of mine played for him at LSU (both recruited there by Saban) and had literally nothing good to say about the man. Said nobody respected Les and didn't give two shits what he thought. 

Similar to someone we know he just couldn't wrap his head around offense being important too. Also Kansas.

Actually he is rebuilding KU. He's playing a bunch of freshman who have more talent that what he was left with. I bet in a couple years Miles will have KU at .500.

Kansas is a football black hole.  The only coach to have a better than 500 record since 1932 was Mark Mangino in the early 2000's and they ran him out of town.  The administration must really like being a basketball school.  

Miles is now past his time. He should be in a booth with Meyer. Good coach and won a national championship at LSU where you don't go far to recruit great players. Kansas sucks and only the Great Mangino was a winner at KU

It's like the line from Heist, a great movie from Mamet.

"Baby, you got old"

He's just old and the game passed him by. 

I laughed when people compared his hire to Mack Brown at UNC. Mack Brown never had much of an opinion on X's and O's, even when he was a 35 year old head coach. The only thing Mack cared about is having an offense that was conducive to good recruiting, particularly at the RB position. He had no problem going to a spread offense way back in the dinosaur times of 2005 because he had Vince Young. There was no coach in the world you'd have more faith in making it work as an old guy.

Les Miles got run out of one of the best jobs in college football despite consistently recruiting top 5 classes because he wouldn't stop running ISO out of the I form. Of course he had no chance to succeed with 1-2 star players at Kansas.

That godawful hair dye is eating into his brain.

As Coach O has showed us, having insane talent can make a mediocre coach look like a great coach.

I never thought that Les was a great coach, and I don't think coach O is one either.  They were/are both riding on the coattails of 5-stars.

He got the Rona

 I assume he recovered, not sure really.

Maybe he runs a clean program and got run over by teams full of paid players that don't actually go to school.

Give Les Miles the same 6 years at Michigan that Jim has had and Les would have done a much better job. He could out recruit Jim with one arm tied behind his back and a blindfold on.

He’s old, he’s bizarre. He’s no longer at a school where recruits come to him... it’s over

For fuck's sake, anybody using "natty" ought to be sent to Bolivia permanently. Same with "Harbs."

JFC people.

Why don’t you take one step back and FUCK YOUR OWN ASS

No one wins at Kansas. 

He’s old and washed up. 

KANSAS IS THE WORST POWER 5 SCHOOL FOR FOOTBALL.  Or the grass is no good there   I remember when Ol Fat Bastard took them to a New Year's 5 bowl game.   But before that they were Sh@@@ and after that they are still a sh** show.   Though they produce some interesting players.     

I like Les Miles, but he was not the best coach available during the Michigan coaching search that yielded Rich Rod.  What kills me about that is not the fact that Miles never coached here, but rather that this should utterly dispel the myth that we insist on a "Michigan Man" (using popular media's definition of that term) as our head coach.  

This was a situation -- and one of only a few recent data points -- where we could have hired someone with a strong Michigan connection and opted instead to hire someone with no Michigan connection.  Why don't we get credit for that?