Let's Talk About our Next Game: Sparty is Coming to AA

Submitted by xtramelanin on October 25th, 2020 at 1:51 PM

Mates,
I know most of us are still on a high from last night, but in the strange reality of 2020 it is now a 'rivalry' week - Sparty is coming to town on Saturday.  Many of us watched Sparty biff it pretty badly vs. Rutgers and show big problems on both sides of the ball.  In prior years even when Sparty wasn't good we still needed to be careful with them, but with dantanna retired will Tucker even appreciate or have focused any energy on the 'hate' for U of M?   Even if he does, will it make a difference? 

Last night I took a look at RCMB for a few minutes and they really were saying we were going to hang 50 to 100 on them this week - which would be wonderful if it comes to pass.  It would be great to run them out of the stadium again but you wonder if they can muster a solid effort or if we get a rash of Covid hold-outs, and suddenly our team and that game look a lot different.  

So the questions are these:

1.  What do you think the opening line will be in Vegas (assuming they haven't published one yet)?

2.  How do you think that game looks next week, predictions of notable events and the score? 

Have a great Sunday.  (the Lions are winning again...for now)

XM

GoWings2008

October 25th, 2020 at 1:58 PM ^

Slightly off topic, but I like how the league schedulers took this opportunity to get Michigan back in a one home/one away game with our two primary rivals. This two home then two away the next year crap had to go...

jmblue

October 25th, 2020 at 2:53 PM ^

The big thing is that MSU and OSU are, year in and year out, the games most in demand for tickets.  To sell a season-ticket slate with neither one on it is a tougher task.  

In 2014, the year of the famous "two Cokes" discount, this was our home schedule:

Appalachian State

Miami (Oh)

Utah

Minnesota

PSU 

Indiana

Maryland

ldevon1

October 25th, 2020 at 1:58 PM ^

I hate Sparty, but I don't know if I'll get as much satisfaction out of beating them without Dantoni on the sidelines. The coward quit to early.

yoyo

October 25th, 2020 at 2:20 PM ^

I will still enjoy annihilating them by a million. Dantonio recruited most of these players and will be watching this game. His defenses were dirty and he acted like a 2 year old through his tenure there. We can send their recruiting even further into the abyss (where is the bottom) with another blowout.

jmblue

October 25th, 2020 at 3:00 PM ^

It would be nice to deliver him another beating, but he is still associated with MSU in some capacity, and this team is made up of his recruits.

Regardless, I had a prime view of  . . . that play in 2015 and I'm going to require many more beatdowns of MSU before I get over it. 

reshp1

October 25th, 2020 at 1:59 PM ^

They were straight up bad. The TOs didn't help them, but they got straight up outplayed for most of the game regardless and there's really no one unit or player that worries me. 

 

Get the W, get the young guys some garbage  time reps, and get out of the game healthy. 

Indy Pete - Go Blue

October 25th, 2020 at 2:03 PM ^

1. UM minus 16.5

2. Michigan 42 - sparty 14

Michigan's O line and Bench crush MSU for 4 quarters.  Joe has another efficient game where the focus of the offense is running the ball down their throats.  Rocky gets rocked by Paye/Hutch/McGrone/Barrett/Welschof, and one or two other friends.  

You can't spell MeL with out an L.

Hail to the Vi…

October 25th, 2020 at 2:57 PM ^

Michigan punished Minnesota on the ground last night, are you saying their 5 rushing touchdown's were 'useless'? I do not understand exactly what your disdain for running the football is, but it's pretty much been demonstrated time and again that having a strong rushing attack correlates with more successful offenses. Michigan appears to have a good-to-elite rushing offense. As a Michigan fan, you should be happy about that.

As for the Michigan State game, I think you give Milton a chance to do more with his arm in this one. The MSU offense is abysmal and shouldn't put a lot of pressure on the defense, which in turn gives the offense a low-leverage situation to experiment with the playbook. I say open up the playbook and let's see what Milton can really do.

Hail to the Vi…

October 25th, 2020 at 3:13 PM ^

Have a look at  the top 10 offensives from college football last season:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2019-team-offense.html

There are exactly two teams, LSU - best passing attack in college football history, and WSU - Mike Leach, that did not run the ball more than 50% of the time that made this list.

Of the remaining 8 schools, 5 of those schools ran the ball more than 55% of the time. All 4 of the teams that made the CFB made this list. LSU is the only school - at 47% R/P - that did not run the ball more than they passed. 

This is a pretty strong indicator that a modern rushing attack is still an effective way to play offense in 2020. Don't conflate this as calling for three-yards-in-a-cloud offenses from the 90's. If the path of least resistance to the end-zone is on the ground, you should run the football. It lays the ground work for everything else you want to do on offense.

Hail to the Vi…

October 25th, 2020 at 5:24 PM ^

Here is my point ultimately - in my admittedly unprofessional opinion, when designing the offensive game plan for a match up, it is important to understand what your offense does well and what appears to be exploitable against an opposing defense.

In the case of the match up against Minnesota, it was pretty apparent that the interior defensive line and in the front seven were the weak spots of their defense. We know we have a big and powerful offensive line. We have a stable of talented running backs that can bring a variety of different skill sets. We have a talented, but inexperienced quarterback making his first career start. When you look at the totality of these variables, it makes a lot of sense to attack Minnesota's defense on the ground. It would be tone deaf to go out there and ask Milton to throw the ball 50 times.

Is that to say that this is the correct approach against every opponent on the schedule? No, not at all. You're going to have to approach the play calling differently against Wisconsin, or IU, or Maryland, or OSU.

Against Minnesota, leaning on the ground attack made perfect sense. Just because it doesn't fit your narrative that a quick-strike and explosive passing game is the only way (I acknowledge it is certainly one way) to play great offense in 2020, doesn't mean it's wrong. More likely, it means you need to re-adjust your narrative.

Golden section

October 25th, 2020 at 6:55 PM ^

DTF said the line is 24. So if you got in on -14 or -16 you were lucky.

This game doesn't have the cache of the Dantonio era. They hated each other. Made worse by that classless field walk stunt.

Then Harbaugh left the starters in last year up 34 with 3 minutes to go. - great stuff!

With Tucker, the state of MSU and their abysmal recruiting, it doesn't feel like much of a rivalry anymore.  

PopeLando

October 25th, 2020 at 2:03 PM ^

Prediction: pain

Dantonio's MSU confused "playing hard" with "playing dirty." So we could be absolutely certain that MSU, with less talent and worse coaching, would double down on the cheap tactics. 

Also, Dantonio could put together a gameplan specifically for Michigan. Or failing that, one masterful drive. 

You'd think that if MSU had any tricks up its sleeve, they would have used them to, you know, NOT lose to Rutgers

Michigan -14

evenyoubrutus

October 25th, 2020 at 2:04 PM ^

I think we all saw this coming. MSU was a 3-9 team last year, plus a handful of good players (and a decent QB).

They have lost that handful of good players and QB, and are now a 3-9 team without any of those guaranteed wins that usually come with a non conference schedule.

Look at their recruiting. They are so, so depleted of any talent, and they don't have a coach who is known for doing great things with a talentless team. This is going to be a bloodbath.

1VaBlue1

October 25th, 2020 at 2:06 PM ^

This isn't going to be respectable, let alone close.  Don't believe for a minute that Harbaugh will show any mercy to an obviously overmatched team.  There are still players on MSU that spewed shit from years back.  It is still MSU - and JH remembers this rivalry from the days his dad was coaching.  Doesn't matter how bad they look, Jim MF'in Harbaugh is going to skull fuck them.

What Michigan just did to a legit top 20 team was real.  

PopeLando

October 25th, 2020 at 3:41 PM ^

I've sat next to Ohio State fans at various bars who treated me and my girlfriend with respect after OSU beat the tar out of us. Sure they gloated, but nothing was said that crossed the line.

It's pretty clear what kind of program Dantonio put together. Not just classless, but a lack of basic human decency. 1990-era Harbaugh would have gotten in a fistfight over that shit.

TIMMMAAY

October 25th, 2020 at 4:19 PM ^

I still kind of wish we had gotten mid 2000's Harbaugh when the opportunity arose... but I'm pretty happy with where we are today. Just have to get over the OSU hump, but I'm not nearly as down about that as some. Should've had '16 (JT was short), and '17 I thought we should have won. He's a great, great coach, and I'm happy he's here now. It's probably best he came when he did, better shot at him retiring here now. 

Tom25

October 25th, 2020 at 2:10 PM ^

They lack talent. They just got Rutgered at home by 11 points. 

They are in year 1, game 2 of a new system and coaching regime. They are still trying to get their system in place. They don’t have the ability to generate some awesome game plan and pull it off, like Mike D’Antoni did from time to time. 
This will be a 4+ TD win for Michigan.