post-call reactions: excellent [Marc-Gregor Campredon]

Hoops Mailbag: Grading Howard, Next Year's Offense, What We're Missing Comment Count

Ace March 30th, 2020 at 10:44 AM

Let's dive back in to more of your questions, starting with what makes for a successful coach.

Hi Ace,

Curious on your thoughts on what the most important aspects to being a great college coach are (e.g. 40% recruiting/roster management, 30% team management, 20% PR/face of program, 10% scheme/Xs-and-Os, etc), and how you'd grade Howard's first season along those lines, as well as a prognosis going forward.

Best,
Mike

I'll preface with this: there's a lot more than one way to be a highly successful college coach. Recruiting at a high level can cover for shortcomings as a strategist. A strong player development program can make up for recruiting lesser talent than your peers. John Beilein and Larry Brown have (officially) made the same number of Final Fours. Same goes for Bill Self and Jay Wright. These coaches aren't similar in on- or off-court approach but they've fit at their respective schools, which is arguably the most important factor.

If I had to break it down into categories, they'd be: fit with school/administration, recruiting/image, roster management, player development, scheme, and game management. While an elite college coach doesn't have to be great at every one of these factors, they usually check off most of the boxes.

It's early yet to be able to judge Juwan Howard on some of these. A quick stab at grades:

Fit with school/administration: A. I'm assuming the readers of this post are familiar with Juwan Howard, former All-American at Michigan, basketball lifer, and universally regarded good dude. It's hard to overstate how fortunate the program was that such a tight fit was available despite the late timing of John Beilein's departure.

Recruiting/image: A. Howard is the face of the program, his first recruiting class ranks fourth in the country, and he could still add a second five-star to that group. This moves up to an A+ if Josh Christopher commits—it'd be difficult to imagine a better start after Howard had to hit the ground running with a 2020 class that needed more commits than usual.

Roster management: Incomplete. We'll learn more about Howard's ability to juggle a roster this offseason. He appears prepared for unexpected attrition with Michigan's pursuit of multiple grad transfer point guards even though the team is full for the moment after scratching Austin Davis and Adrien Nunez off the potential attrition list.

Beilein learned the hard way that great programs lose players at a steady rate to both the NBA and programs where even established rotation players can find more playing time; it took him a while to adjust and he still got caught off-guard by last year's early entry decisions by Jordan Poole and Iggy Brazdeikis. Howard seems to know how the game is played and his experience as both a former elite player and the father of high-level prospects should serve him well.

Player development: Incomplete. The unexpected breakout of Austin Davis indicates Howard at least should be good at getting the most out of his big men. That said, it's way too early to put a grade on his player development. This is something to revisit a year or three down the road.

Scheme: B+. I really like the framework. Howard didn't stand pat with John Beilein's offense despite having his pick-and-roll duo as seniors, instead building around the ball screen offense with plenty of NBA sets and added wrinkles. The defensive philosophy was also clear: play man defense with the occasional zone changeup (almost always after a timeout), use drop pick-and-roll coverage when possible, run shooters off the arc, and force players to beat you one-on-one.

I need to see more to move the grade any higher, especially since he could build so much off the Simpson/Teske pick-and-roll—we'll get a clearer view of how Howard wants to operate as he molds the roster to his preference instead of working with another coach's players.

Game management: B-. The area I most want to see improvement. Howard made some strange lineup decisions during the season that were usually borne of his strong adherence to the hated autobench policy. His best schematic adjustments often came either between games against the same opponent (see: hedging Cassius Winston and leaving Xavier Tillman to shoot in the second MSU game) or too late in the game to alter the outcome (see: playing Brandon Johns at center against Wisconsin).

I wouldn't say Howard was bad at game management by any stretch. He had to work within some serious limitations when Franz Wagner and Isaiah Livers were absent for significant stretches of time. He utilized timeouts well on both ends, drawing up effective plays and using that zone changeup to flummox offenses running a set to beat man. I would've loved to see him in a postseason tournament setting this year. Alas.

[Hit THE JUMP for what I'm missing most about the tournament, what next year's offense could look like, and more.]

there'll never be another Captain Hook [Marc-Gregor Campredon]

There were plenty of players I looked forward to watching. When the postseason was called off, however, my mind went straight to Zavier Simpson. I could list so many reasons. He's a senior. He's not an NBA prospect and his game is a strange fit in most high-level pro leagues; depending on how (and where) he wants to live his life, he may have played his last organized game. Even in the context of everything that's going on right now, I feel awful for him.

It's also for selfish reasons. We're never going to see a Michigan point guard like Simpson again. That'll be welcome in one respect: shooting. In every other way, we're worse off. He was one of the best passers in the country and also one of its best defenders. His mood-to-size ratio was off the charts. He set the emotional tone for the program for three years.

Listed generously at 6'0", Simpson made the sky hook his signature shot. You know, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's shot. Kareem, notably, is a full 14 inches taller than Simpson and arguably the greatest center of all time. Simpson started with right-handers, added the left, and reached the point he'd make one on a fast break:

try that, Kareem

I don't think it's an exaggeration to say nobody is going to play the point guard position at this level like Zavier Simpson ever again. When the game tried to move away from him, he bodied it up and made it go where he wanted. I'm going to miss watching him play.

the next Stauskas? LeVert? Iggy? [Campredon]

Until we know next year's roster, I have to largely punt here. (I promise I'll have plenty of content on this once the roster is set.) It's safe to assume the offense will be more egalitarian and run less through one player without Simpson; we could also see a slight downtick in pick-and-roll usage, though Howard's NBA background and his playcalling this season indicate it'll still be a huge part of the offense.

Given the glut of skilled players who can play the four and five, I anticipate Howard will utilize more horns sets, which is a great way to take advantage of multiple big men who can make plays on offense. Otherwise, there are a lot of things still up in the air that could dramatically change the way the offense looks:

  • Isaiah Livers and Franz Wagner are both getting NBA Draft feedback. Livers is the only player on the team who's proven he can shoot three-pointers on the move. Wagner could blossom into the living mismatch that is an oversized wing who can shoot and make plays off the dribble.
  • Adding Josh Christopher, an attacking two-guard with great size and athleticism, would have a significant impact on the distribution of usage.
  • Between potential grad transfers in, the implied potential transfers out, the potentially close battle between David DeJulius and Eli Brooks, and the possibility Christopher takes away 25-30 minutes per game in the backcourt, the situation at point guard is unsettled.
  • Colin Castleton is a wild card at center. He's by far the most mobile of the three options (over Hunter Dickinson and Austin Davis) and has the most potential to add a three-point shot this year. He could be Moe 2.0; he could be the same guy he was this year and get squeezed out of playing time.

We'll revisit this.

I agree that fouls have too much of an impact on the college game. Backup center is a position of greater import than it should be because of the current foul limit and the way the game is officiated—and, yes, the way coaches often overreact to foul trouble.

Messing with free throw numbers feels too gimmicky and overimpactful, though. A player's foul that wouldn't normally result in a free throw—ex. if someone picks up their sixth on a charge—now becomes, in essence, an NBA technical. Players in foul trouble would be targeted to the point we could see a lot of James Harden-like play at the end of games, except with players far less skilled than James Harden. It also might end up with coaches benching these players anyway because the defensive penalty isn't worth keeping them out there.

Instead, I'd rather bump the foul limit up to six. The NCAA had the five-foul limit in place four decades before they introduced a 45-second shot clock. It's past time to adjust for the massive increase in the speed of the game since then. Sure, it no longer aligns with the NBA by fouls allowed per minute. Neither does the shot clock and the three-point arc. Sometimes the simplest change is the one to make.

From 1942-43 until the 1944-45 season, when the foul limit was moved from four to five, the NCAA had a rule in place that allowed players who hadn't fouled out in regulation to commit a fifth foul without being disqualified if the game went to overtime. They got rid of the overtime exception when they increased the foul limit. At the very least, they should absolutely bring that back.

This is the organization that banned dunking for a decade, however, so I'm not holding my breath.

How many minutes could you play in the starting rotation on the Fab 5 teams and they still could win consistently? What about any of the title game teams? I know that's a crazy question but I've always wondered this about myself and I wouldn't last very long. — Mike

It definitely wouldn't be long for me, either: I'm 5'10", 165 pounds, my basketball career peaked when I was the distant second-best player on the three-on-three Superball (Ann Arbor's Gus Macker ripoff) fourth grade champions, and my capacity for physical activity is perilously close to zero. My most effective way to contribute to any team would probably be to cherry pick at the opposing team's basket instead of playing defense and even that would feature some panicked missed layups as real athletes bear down on me.

Because the Fab Five and title teams were so dominant on most nights, I could probably stay out there until the first media timeout (the first stoppage after the game's first four minutes) without these teams falling in too deep a hole from which to dig out.

Comments

dragonchild

March 30th, 2020 at 10:55 AM ^

Zavier Simpson is a sports anime protagonist come to life.  That short, creative, never-say-die fellow, overlooked by everyone, who works his ass off to become the physical and emotional focal point of the team.

Ace would be Exposition Dump guy on the sideline who explains in very dry detail what Zavier's doing, at a hilariously time-lagged pace compared to the action itself.

woosterwolverine1224

March 30th, 2020 at 12:04 PM ^

I couldn't be more appreciative of these, and I am sure you have a ton of stuff to do outside of these streams, but would you have any interest in digging up games from the doldrum years (mid-2000s)? My dad and I had season tickets from the early 90s til now and we sat through every game, win or lose. I never did get to re-watch those random big wins like the huge comeback by Daniel Horton his freshman year, and they were so much fun in person and helped make the Beilein years that much more enjoyable.

If this is too much, I will enjoy whatever you put out! Also, everyone, please stay inside. K THX.

AC1997

March 30th, 2020 at 11:23 AM ^

I really hope that DDJ and Brooks stick it out.  I totally understand the reasons why one of them might transfer, but I think having experience at the guard spot, even if their upside is limited, makes a huge difference - especially with so many young players coming in.  Even if Christopher comes in, there should be 25-30 minutes for both of these guys.  

From a player development standpoint even John Beilein isn't perfect (Kam Chatman, Evan Smotrycz, etc.).  But this year was particularly confusing for judging Howard.  I'd love to see a "player report card" piece from Ace.  My quick take on development:

  • Positive:  DDJ, Brooks, Johns, Davis
  • Neutral: Livers, Teske
  • Negative: Castleton, Nunez
  • N/A: Simpson (all him, not Howard), Bajema (didn't play), Wagner (freshman w/ injury)

gosieg

March 30th, 2020 at 11:29 AM ^

On the foul limit, I'm good with increasing the limit to 6. I'd also be in favor of no longer counting offensive fouls as personals. Charge calls are some of the most subjective, and they result in a turnover, which is already a huge penalty.

One other easy change would be to add to the foul limit in overtime. If a player hasn't fouled out, they should be allowed an extra foul in OT (and in 3OT, 5OT, etc).

I'm preaching to the choir, but don't we want to see the best players at the end of the game? No other sport has this type of limitation unless a player is ejected.

AC1997

March 30th, 2020 at 12:11 PM ^

I'm not sure how I feel about the 6 foul limit.  I do love the OT idea and that should be automatic.  I guess given my disdain for  how college refs call fouls, maybe 6 fouls is an easy compromise.  I do think that there is value in forcing coaches to have to use substitutions and depth during a game though - levels the playing field a bit.  

M Ascending

March 30th, 2020 at 12:21 PM ^

These are good ideas.  But I would amend the offensive foul rule so that OF's by the ball handler, e.g., pushing off and charging would not count as personal fouls and would merely be a turnover, but OFs by an non ball handler, e.g. moving picks, etc., would still be counted as a PF, because they are much easier to avoid than a charge deep under the basket. 

I would also permit an extra PF in overtime, just as the teams get an extra OT.

dragonchild

March 30th, 2020 at 1:02 PM ^

I don't like the blocking/charging fouls from the sky to the pits of hell.  They're garbage.  Basketball is a contact sport.  The current rules even with good officiating turn too many games into Bowling Pin Simulator and a tedious foul-fest toward the end.

My late father had an innovative proposal that'll never see the light of day (so don't take this too seriously), and has various issues that would need working out, but to honor his memory for funsies -- let the boys bump chests like the contact sport it is.  However, if contact is aggressively & deliberately made, the side who initiates the contact (the location of the ball is immaterial -- this applies to off-ball penalties as well) goes to a penalty box.  Yes, like in hockey.  Let the guy watch his team go 4-on-5 for a while.  No more free throws.  No more foul limits.  At all, ever.  You don't even have to stop play.  Ref signals the offender to stop playing or the team forfeits.

Yes it's subjective but blocking/charging calls are already hella subjective, and they heavily incentivize initiating contact by the offense because game theory usually means they score and get an uncontested freebie.  Then toward ends of games the losing team will burn through their fouls, again because game theory dictates that's the winning strategy.  It's so boring.  The hockey-style rule isn't perfect, but it will absolutely murderdeathkill the tedium of foul-based play.  Bowling over a guy for a cheap and-one isn't worth it if means two minutes of agony watching the other side set up with Ace under your basket for easy layups, and giving the other side a power play when you're losing in the waning minutes basically ends the game for you.

trueblueintexas

March 30th, 2020 at 1:56 PM ^

Personally, I want the NBA game to stay as far away from the college game as possible. I love seeing a team figure out how to win, or collapse, when their best player gets in foul trouble. It's partly what makes the college game so awesome. Especially the tournament. The tourney would lose so much of what makes it great if the game was changed to simply make it about making sure the best players were in it until the end instead of the teams playing the best. 

BarryBadrinath

March 30th, 2020 at 3:25 PM ^

If we're throwing gimmicky ideas out... how about resetting the individual foul count at the end of each half? We already reset the team fouls. Each player gets 3 fouls per half. I think that would get rid of any autobenching after an early foul. Would probably have some unwanted consequences at end of games.  

shoes

March 30th, 2020 at 12:08 PM ^

This weekend I rewatched the 2018 BT Tourney title game against Purdue and was struck by these things from our beloved departing seniors.

1) In the first half X made one of his hook shots and Bill Raftery commented on it. I had previously thought he first introduced that in the 2018-2019 season.

2) Teske had 12 points at the half (which did not include a single 3). He looked more aggressive as a sophomore on offense than he did at almost any time during this past senior season.

AC1997

March 30th, 2020 at 12:17 PM ^

I think your Teske comment is a useful observation turned into the wrong conclusion.  The way I interpreted it, having watched games from his Junior year too, is that Teske's consistency in all facets of the game was inconsistent in his career.  (To some extent that's always true with centers since they rely on others to get them the ball.) 

  • The game you watched he scored 14 points in the entire game (12 at half) and it was one of just three games he broke double figures.  Not a great conclusion....
  • As a Junior he showed flashes of brilliance as a finisher with 17 double figure games and a high FG%, becoming a great ball screen player who showed soft hands.  But he also disappeared at times, with 4 of his last 7 games being 8 points or fewer
  • As a Senior he started the year showing aggressive and effective post moves, something unheard of the previous year (watch Michigan try to feed him the ball against Florida's zone in the tournament game).  Then mid-year he hit a wall and struggled to finish anything. 

TheTruth41

March 30th, 2020 at 1:01 PM ^

Mentioned Teske below as well.  He did seem to regress this past season.  He liked the 3 way too much for a 7'-2" guy taller than anyone else on the court.  Even when he did go to the post he'd never settle in on the block and would settle for a shot maybe 6' away from the basket at best and fade away from there on a bad angle (seemed to be typically in the middle of the paint).  Was frustrating to watch someone so big fade away all the time.  No way anyone should have been able to push him off the block if he wanted to be there and assert himself in the paint and at the rim.  He could have been dominant if he embraced contact down low.

maize-blue

March 30th, 2020 at 12:20 PM ^

This team is going to be much better with a big man who can score in the post and a Guard who can shoot. 

Teske and Simpson were good guys but very limited.

Watching the 2013 Kansas game with McGary and Burke is like night and day compared to Teske/Simpson.

AC1997

March 30th, 2020 at 1:14 PM ^

While I don't disagree with what you're trying to say - having guys like Cristopher, Todd, and Dickenson with high offensive upsides will raise the total potential of the team - I think fans are going to be in for a bit of a shock when we see a lot of freshmen moments from these guys.

First, none of them have demonstrated that they are good, consistent shooters yet.  It was easy to find flaws with Simpson's shooting and Teske's consistency, but how much of our offense and defense ran smoothly because of them?  How many open shots did we get by having the guy who lead the country in assists?  When we have those moments or games or stretches where we're turning the ball over or passing aimlessly next year, remember that.  

I'm really excited for the future and think that having better 1-on-1 talents will open aspects of the offense we haven't seen in a long time - but it will take time and we'll have to cope with having most of those players for only a year.  

TheTruth41

March 30th, 2020 at 12:49 PM ^

I like the spot for Davis.  He was really coming on as the season progressed and was arguably?? more effective offensively than Teske.  Basing this solely on the fact that Davis knew who he was on the court.  He was a banger that basically lived in the paint and he worked his game to his strengths and as he did that became more and more efficient.  Teske seemed to be lost later in the year.  If he did go to the post his shot would seem to always be fading away.  You're 7'-2".  You go towards the basket at will and assert yourself.  Another year working with Howard in the post and Davis is going to be a valuable asset down low next year.  He'll be great off the bench to spell our starting big and work him in when the opponent subs out their starting center.  Let Davis go to work down low on a sub when he was effective against starting centers this year.