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Brian February 13th, 2020 at 1:36 PM

2/12/2020 – Michigan 79, Northwestern 54 – 15-9, 6-7 Big Ten

I remember Julia Louis-Dreyfus. I remember a packed arena losing its mind for Dererk Pardon on that thing he did, you know, that one. I remember worse Northwestern teams that didn't sniff the tournament but were still close enough to turn Chris Collins into a dog.

Playing Northwestern anywhere other than Crisler has been a brutally frustrating experience for Michigan of late. Michigan won 62-60 in Northwestern's building just last year. The year before the Wildcats won; the year before that was the Pardon thing. There was no game at Welsh-Ryan in 2016; instead Michigan scraped out an OT win in the Big Ten Tournament.

A distinct air of "here we go again" descended over the Michigan fandom during a nearly six minute stretch without points immediately after tipoff. Then Northwestern gave up a 31-5 run with Zavier Simpson on the bench. In the second half there were possessions were Simpson just threw it to Brooks or Livers for wide open threes. No action, no screens, just guys standing by themselves outside the three point line.

It took Northwestern over a half to get an offensive rebound. Jared Jones, the backup post you may remember canning off the dribble jumpers, seemed like the only guy on the court who wanted to be there. It obviously sucks to be on a team that's 1-12 in conference play but after watching Rutgers nearly fight all the way back against Ohio State in the game immediately preceding Michigan's it was hard not to compare the two teams.

Rutgers is still pretty much Rutgers. They can't shoot (318th in 3P%, 329th in FT%). Their offense is still a series of isos with very little team basketball (311th in assist rate). They're an island of misfit toys, and they play balls to the wall at all times. It's impossible to rattle them. They play in the RAC. Two years ago they went 3-15 in league play. So what if Geo Baker misses 12 straight shots and you're down 15 to, yep, Northwestern? Been there. Lived there. Gonna win anyway in the jankiest way possible.

Northwestern just wants to go home.

[After THE JUMP: Big Country!]

Country vs Sleep. A large part of Michigan's early futility was Jon Teske putting up a series of dispiriting bricks. Austin Davis entered and promptly went 4/4 from the floor. When he returned in the second half Northwestern was so focused on him that he got a bonafide triple team on one possession.

What's going on? Your author's theory is that Teske reacts badly to double teams and Davis does not. Northwestern was far more willing to dig on post players, and from multiple spots on the floor, than most other Big Ten teams. This is because most other Big Ten teams have Daniel Oturu (at a certain level of approximation) and Northwestern has this guy, a freshman ranked #348 on the composite:

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Northwestern is very good at doubling because they practice it more than any other Big Ten team. Teske has his physical attributes and was still ranked outside the top 100 as a recruit because he was not a dominant post presence. Then he spent three years as a roll guy who never posted and flirted with having the lowest turnover rate in the country for a coach who was better at avoiding turnovers than any coach in the Kenpom era.

Doubling made Teske uncomfortable. This led to a sped-up Teske who wanted to get his dribbling done with as fast as possible. The result was a lot of jump hooks that got progressively worse as the game went on.

Austin Davis spent his high school years playing for Onsted, where every time he touched the ball he was swarmed by six-foot guys. Davis's high school career was picking the horses in the "would you rather fight a horse-sized duck or 100 duck-sized horses?" question*. He accepts double-teaming as a way of life, like Bane surrounded by tiny horses. This is not a HoegLaw ad. Yet.

*[Clearly the horses. A duck-sized horse would have toothpick legs you could take out easily, and since they have no arms they'd be limited to trying to kick your ankles, which would probably break their toothpick legs. Also: just think of the mass. A duck weighs about two or three pounds. A horse weighs from 840-2200, per Google. The sheer amount of animal you have to take out is somewhere between four and ten times less with the duck-sized horses.]

The good news for next year game. Simpson was out for the bulk of the first half. He finished with four points and five assists. Teske had a horrendous game. Michigan still easily cleared a PPP. The guys picking up that slack are all going to be around next year, knock on wood.

Performances included:

  • 7 assists, 0 TOs, and 7 points on six shot equivalents from DDJ, with his three a tough late-clock stepback.
  • Eli Brooks going 4/8 from three.
  • Isaiah Livers looking all the way back from his injury with two impressive tomahawks and a 132 ORTG.
  • Johns, Davis, and Castleton going 8/8 from the floor.

Michigan had a veritable Kenpom Time surge with a 12-3 run to close the game, so maybe not all of that is meaningful. Brooks and DDJ performances are, though. Brooks's season numbers are still pretty ugly against Tier A+B teams; they are way, way less ugly than they were a month ago. He's broken out of that miserable shooting slump, going 15/37 from three over the last five games.

Good news for this year. Michigan was 14th on Torvik before the Livers injury and 46th without him. A solid win against MSU and a road blowout of Northwestern would see them pop up to 10th nationally if you exclude the Livers games. (If you can average BARTHAGs, which you might not be able to.)

As a couple people have pointed out on twitter, Michigan ranks very highly over its last five games, which feature two games for Brandon Johns surge and two with Livers in the lineup. If Johns can maintain his recent level of play—he didn't feature much in this one because he was sick—and Livers stays on the court maybe getting back to Bahamas-level play is possible.

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redshirt: no [Campredon]

The Bajema mystery deepens. Michigan put him out there for the first time since the MSU game, officially closing the door on any sort of redshirt. He canned a corner three, naturally. He now has eight makes on the season on 10 shots. Nunez has 15 on 49.

Auburn stays Auburn. Last night Auburn won an OT game against Alabama in which the Crimson Tide attempted 59(!) threes, which caused me to delve into the maximum Auburn currently going on at Auburn. Despite being 22-2 they're just 32nd in Kenpom, behind 14-11 Purdue, 12-11 Minnesota, and 14-10 Wisconsin. This is a combination of two things:

  1. Auburn played zero top 50 nonconference opponents and this year the SEC is the worst high-major conference. (Congrats, Pac-12!)
  2. Auburn is #1 by a fair bit in Kenpom's "luck" stat, which is basically a comparison between your wins and how many wins you should have expected to get given the number of close games you're in. Four of Auburn's last five games have gone to OT—all wins. They also played an OT game against Furman earlier this year, also a win.

I haven't seen evidence of Auburn running back a missed three pointer for a touchdown but I assume these things are so commonplace now that they're barely worth mentioning. Auburn is a 4 in the current T-Ranketology and will be everyone's upset pick in the first round if they stick there.

If you're wondering about Michigan. They're languishing down at 285th in luck. Add in Livers getting injured twice, a month of the worst three point luck on the planet, going 0/5 from the line down the stretch against Illinois, and going from 60% to win to 13% to win against Ohio State thanks to a call that will never be made again and you've got a recipe for a lot of frustration obscuring a team that might be pretty good with Livers on the court.

Also a factor in the frustration: Michigan has played the toughest slate of opponent offenses in the country. Gonzaga(#1), Iowa (#3), Creighton (#6), Oregon(#10), Louisville(#11), MSU (#18), OSU (#19), and PSU(#20) are all in the top 20. (How the hell is Penn State a top 20 offense?)

BTW, that Creighton win is looking pretty good now. They just beat Seton Hall on the road and are likely to finish second in the Big East.

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some will, some won't [Campredon]

Solving the recruiting crunch. Much talk of processing in the wilds in the aftermath of Sam Webb crystal balling Josh Christopher to Michigan and Austin Davis emerging as a reliable backup 5. Here's the situation as I see it:

  • Christopher is likely to commit, high five.
  • Todd is likely to stick, high five.
  • Livers doesn't have enough draft traction right now to pull the trigger.
  • You want to keep both Davis and Castleton.
  • Greg Brown's dad has said they're going to wait until after NBA declarations to find the best spot for him, and that they want to play the 3/4. Unless one of Livers or Isaiah Todd—and probably both—head elsewhere, Michigan's not going to be the spot. Since the way Brown ends up on campus is if Michigan has unexpected attrition, he doesn't factor in to potentially going over.

That puts Michigan over by two. Getting there requires two of three things: offering a firm handshake to Davis, having one of Nunez or Bajema transfer, or having Jace Howard walk on. You get pushback when you mention the latter because Howard's said he's on scholarship but if push comes to shove the least painful thing to do is to let Juwan pay some in-state tuition. Then you'd expect that one of the two wings will decide to go somewhere they can play without arm-twisting. If not you'll have to say goodbye to Davis, which would be unfortunate.

Given the flexibility with Howard getting Christopher is the equivalent of oversigning by one, something even John Beilein started doing after the Battle/Langford situation. It'll work out.

Slight differences from Beilein, part 60. You've got Dikembe Mutumbo and Worldwide Wes sitting courtside at a Northwestern game. And then Juwan Howard shouts Wes out ("he's like an uncle") in the postgame.

I theorize this would not have happened without a coaching change.

Latest draft items. Sam Vecenie has a new mock draft that does not contain Isaiah Livers. It does have Jalen Smith and Daniel Oturu in the first round (albeit late). Xavier Tillman and Ayo Dosunmu are just outside of it; Joe Wieskamp and Kaleb Wesson are mid-second rounders.

Comments

TrueBlue2003

February 13th, 2020 at 4:35 PM ^

Yeah, assuming Christopher comes, Brooks will still spend the majority of minutes at the PG with DDJ backing up both spots like this year (DDJ might start at the two but would expect him to get beat out pretty quickly if he does).  Zeb will wait his turn at PG until the follower year, barring an unexpected breakout.

If Christopher doesn't come, Brooks is your two guard again, DDJ takes 30 min at the point and Zeb probably cracks the rotation as the third guard.

 

outsidethebox

February 13th, 2020 at 2:37 PM ^

In Juwan's position-less lineup/roster, even with Livers staying, there is plenty of PT for Brown.

Bajema playing last night must simply be Juwan having a change of red-shirt heart. 

All indications are that the 20-21 Michigan basketball roster is going to be something we have not seen for a very long time-as in ever. This team is going to average in the 90s.

I believe under Juwan's calm, friendly, thoughtful demeanor their lies an assassin who loves to go for the jugular. 

outsidethebox

February 13th, 2020 at 3:25 PM ^

You only list four players "ahead" of Brown. There are no boundaries for who plays in a position-less scheme. In Juwan's world all five of those you list could be on the court at the same time. Here, each would have the ability to, given the spacing they would create, put the ball on the floor and beat their man. It's a brave new world-not for the faint of heart. There are minutes for Brown-plenty of them...and in a format he is hoping to play in. 

jmblue

February 13th, 2020 at 2:54 PM ^

Definitely would not want to fight a horse-sized duck.  That could kill you with a flap of its wing.  Just think how much damage a goose can do with its regular-sized wings, and then multiply that by several times.  Plus, it could probably literally bite your head off.

k1400

February 13th, 2020 at 2:58 PM ^

Thank you for the horse and duck tactical analysis.  Instinctively I'd rather fight duck sized horses, and your concise breakdown confirmed it. 

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

February 13th, 2020 at 3:35 PM ^

Colorado being in the Pac-12.  Both are pretty good cultural fits actually, if not geographical, but Colorado has a perfectly good conference right next door THAT IT LEFT, and Creighton frankly outgrew the MVC and doesn't have a similar good, movin' on up option in the neighborhood.  If Creighton were in Pennsylvania instead of Missouri, the Big East would be the most natural fit in the world.

wolfman81

February 13th, 2020 at 5:30 PM ^

Also, Creighton needs to be in a conference without football (or a league where football is optional) because they don't have a team.  (At least not since 1942 per wikipedia).  As a rule, the higher status conferences have football.  So jumping to the BigXII, isn't an option despite the geographic fit.  I can't name a higher status non-football conference than the Big East, and they aren't terribly far outside the footprint:

(and UConn will join the Big East next academic year).

Yinka Double Dare

February 13th, 2020 at 6:41 PM ^

Big East is mostly Catholic schools (which Creighton is), they'd already had Marquette and DePaul and added Xavier and Butler, Creighton wasn't that insane of a stretch, they at least fit with the conference culturally. It's not as random as West Virginia ending up in the "all our schools are plains states" Big 12. 

AVPBCI

February 13th, 2020 at 3:25 PM ^

Livers is not ready for the NBA  - Passing has to improve as does  his dribbling into the lane ( besides doing good on that against NW ) . He needs another year for sure .

Different System from Coach B to Howard in terms of the Center play ! Need the teske of the Bahamas back and the davis we have  seen lately !

As for Greg Brown - Nunez can get his walking papers , and hey go ahead and work out a nice financial aid package for JACE  so Brown comes aboard and call it a day !

 

 

WorldwideTJRob

February 14th, 2020 at 1:03 PM ^

Poole was a 1st rd. draft pick. And even despite his struggles last year, he always remained a ~top 40 prospect. Right now Livers is number 97(only 60 players get drafted)according to draft express/ESPN. He is a very good college player, but I’m unsure if NBA scouts appreciate him as much as we do.

username03

February 13th, 2020 at 3:51 PM ^

Why does anyone care if Bajema redshirts, other than him and his family? With the way Juwan is recruiting the chances we need a fifth year Bajema are zero.

Kilgore Trout

February 13th, 2020 at 4:25 PM ^

My guess from Bajema playing last night is that they must have talked and he must be planning to transfer. If he's set on transferring after one year and doesn't think he has a case for an immediate eligibility waiver, there's no point in redshirting this year because, I think, you still only have five years to play your four. So, he'd have three years at his new school regardless of if he redshirts this year. 

B-Nut-GoBlue

February 13th, 2020 at 4:49 PM ^

I think it's more of a, that must be the reason Nunez sees the minutes he does.  Instead we see the redshirt thing go out the window last night and are left perplexed as to why The Baj hasn't seen more minutes, especially the ones that have gone to Nunez coming in and stinking up the joint.

B-Nut-GoBlue

February 13th, 2020 at 6:55 PM ^

Yea right, I get what you mean. I've also wondered that in the overall picture of things.  None of it makes sense.  Him being utterly terrible in practice now has to be the working theory.  Except Nunez goes in for meaningful minutes and is a liability so why not even try the other kid.  Dunno. Dunno. Dunno.

goodfella96

February 13th, 2020 at 4:14 PM ^

I think a few people here are still stuck in the JB way of doing things state of mind. JH does not care about positional players. He will play who helps him win the game. This will change drastically next year with the recruits coming in and the potential recruits (Josh Christopher just got 2 more CBs for us on 247 this afternoon) we could still get. I’m expecting wholesale changes with really only Franz, Brooks, DDJ and Johns getting PT next year as I think Livers will go pro, Davis grad transfers, Nunez and Castleton transfer and potential Bajema since I’m of the opinion he’s playing now because he’ll red shirt next year at another school. I agree this isn’t ideal for the center position depth but with Dickinson,Todd, Johns and hopefully Brown we should have enough length that it won’t matter. Either way it’s going to be a lot of fun to watch!

champswest

February 13th, 2020 at 4:57 PM ^

I think you want to keep Castleton next year so that you have him as a senior in 2021-22, when you no longer have Davis, Todd or maybe even Johns.

Besides, Castleton will probably be the starter next year especially early on. Freshmen centers don’t usually light it up unless they are top 10 and athletic.

FrankMurphy

February 13th, 2020 at 4:22 PM ^

Austin Davis might be the biggest, bonafide out-of-nowhere surprise of the season. Kid is punching far above his weight. When Juwan began his massive tear on the recruiting trail, I was certain that Davis wouldn't get a fifth year. Now I'm not so sure. He's playing like a man possessed who is desperate to earn that fifth year.

FrankMurphy

February 13th, 2020 at 4:30 PM ^

I don't think Jace gets to pay in-state tuition. He goes to high school in Florida and has never even lived in Michigan. His ties to Michigan begin and end with the fact that his dad is the head basketball coach at the state's flagship university. Judging by what I've seen elsewhere, U-M doesn't give in-state status in borderline cases even if you offer to sell your first born child to the university. I've seen kids who graduated from high school in Michigan and were granted in-state status at MSU, Wayne State, and CMU but were denied in-state status by U-M just because they spent stretches of their childhood out of state. 

543Church

February 13th, 2020 at 4:45 PM ^

Am I the only one who doesn't like the idea of using a scholarship on the coach's kid?  A coach who was already a multi-millionaire before becoming a coach?   And a kid who probably wouldn't have received a scholarship from any other major D1 program?  If that uses up a spot to bring in a more talented player or retain a senior contributor that sucks.

 

wolfman81

February 13th, 2020 at 5:43 PM ^

Athletic scholarships aren't based on financial need.  Did anyone have problems with...

  • ...giving Glenn Robinson III a scholarship?
  • ...giving any of the Glasgows a scholarship (parents are doctors and well off, from all reports)?
  • ...Davidson giving Steph Curry a scholarship?

Me neither.  Juwan will not be the first coach to offer his own child an athletic scholarship.

I would actually be more upset if Jace doesn't get a scholarship since he would merit one (I believe he has/had other offers to P5 schools).  It would seem that forcing him to walk-on is a sneaky way around the scholarship limit.

champswest

February 13th, 2020 at 4:47 PM ^

Juwan is currently over-signed for next year, but is still actively recruiting Christopher and Brown (and maybe others). I am pretty sure he knows how to count, so maybe he knows more about what is going on than we do. He doesn’t seem too worried about it so I’m not going to worry about it either.

njvictor

February 13th, 2020 at 4:50 PM ^

The Bajema situation is one of a few things:

1) He needs another year to put on weight and figure things out defensively before he sees significant minutes

2) He plays really poorly in practice, so Juwan doesn't give him many minutes, but is a gamer when he sees real minutes

3) Juwan doesn't see him as a fit in the system is kindly guiding him out of the program to make room for other guys

Hoping it's situation #1

Flying Dutchman

February 14th, 2020 at 8:53 AM ^

Livers stays.    Austin Davis, kudos for a solid year but here's a firm handshake.   Maybe Big Country pays for a year of grad school and stays on the team.   Juwan wises up and pays that in-state tuition for Jace.    Franz and DDJ emerge big time next year, and more growth from Johns.  The freshmen play like freshmen at first but then show growth.   Nunez transfers.   Castleton stays and starts some games.    Michigan wins the national championship in 2021.   Boom.