[James Coller]

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Seth May 25th, 2021 at 12:35 PM

In 1946, Penn State was scheduled to play the University of Miami, which like most Southern teams of the time still refused to play integrated Northern teams unless they sat their Black players. At the time Penn State had two, and of them only Wally Triplett was a regular. By a team vote, PSU canceled the 1946 Miami game, an act that Triplett credits for the origins of its great 1947 campaign, when Penn State swept its regular season opponents and earned an invite to the Cotton Bowl.

The Cotton was one of four bowl games in existence, and one of three, the Rose excepted, with standing rules against Black players participating. Responding to rumors that administrators were talking to SMU about sitting Triplett, PSU captain Steve Suhey told the press “We play all or none, there will be no meetings.” Triplett played, and scored the game-tying touchdown. Though the school’s claim that this event and the “We Are…” cheer are connected is completely apocryphal, the moment is a special point of pride for the Nittany Lions.

Michigan could have had that moment a dozen years earlier, when Georgia Tech came to Ann Arbor in 1934, and over vocal opposition from campus protestors and the greater Michigan community, Fielding Yost agreed to sit star end Willis Ward. The details of this event have been covered many times, first as dug up by Dr. John Behee in his first book Hail to the Victors! Black Athletes at the University of Michigan (1974), then in the Black and Blue documentary based on his findings, and most recently and thoroughly by the President’s Advisory Committee Report on the Fielding H. Yost Name on the Yost Ice Arena Historical Analysis.

Yesterday this committee tasked with looking at whether Michigan should rename its buildings issued its unanimous recommendation to President Schlissel that Fielding Yost’s name should be removed from Yost Ice Arena. The report is 36 pages, and informs the committee’s six-page unanimous recommendation.

As someone who talks Yost history often, most recently in an interview on the history of the Big House that aired on student television, I hope to provide some context on the committee’s findings. I will refrain from adding my opinion on the building’s name until the end because next to the facts and the opinions of those more directly affected I don’t believe my feelings, colored as they are by my history of covering Yost, should carry much weight.

Committee, Report and Conclusions

The committee begins their recommendation letter with an unattributed message from a Michigan alum asking that the name be reconsidered because “In naming the Field House after Yost, the University chose to place one man's contributions to football and to athletics above the profoundly deep and negative impact he had on people of color,” and continued to do so over several opportunities to rename it.

The committee responds to this in the summary of its conclusion:

While we acknowledge that Yost had both successes and failures in his career, our historical analysis suggests to us that the benching of Ward was not an aberration but rather epitomized a long series of actions that worked against the integration of sports on campus.

The committee also lays out what it believes should be the standard for “honorific” naming of buildings, which is:

The names on our buildings constitute a “moral map” of our institution and should enshrine the values that we uphold.

By this standard they make a convincing case that Yost’s actions in the Willis Ward affair did not represent core values of the University of Michigan as they were formally stated in Yost’s time, or as they are instituted in practice today.

The committee was created in 2017 as the active arm of the university’s new review process for renaming buildings, and President Schlissel followed its first two recommendations, removing the names of noted eugenicist CC Little and crank scientist Alexander Winchell. In the future the same committee will likely be tasked with a recommendation on the honorific naming of Schembechler Hall, and the financial naming gift of the Weiser Center for Emerging Democracies.

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Findings of Racism

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Dan McGugin (far left) was a star on the first Point-a-Minute team. He would become Yost’s brother-in-law, and but for a WWI interruption, coached Vanderbilt from 1904 to his death in 1936, upholding the Vandy administration’s color line on all of his teams. George “Dad” Gregory (center) came with Yost from Stanford, and was thereafter the subject of Stanford president David Starr Jordan’s persistent and unsubstantiated claims of cheating. Stanford recently removed Jordan’s name from a building; Vanderbilt’s athletics building today is still called the McGugin Center. [team photo, courtesy UM Bentley Library]

The report describes Yost’s background as the son of a Confederate soldier (from a Union state so this was by choice), who spent time socially in the Sigma Chi Fraternity and Nashville upper society, which he married into. They paint a picture of a  patronizing “moderate” form of racism, one which was tolerant of segregation but not the violence that enforced it, as was the norm in these circles. There are few signs that Yost ever deviated from this norm.

Most of the report focuses on the Willis Ward scandal in 1934, when Yost not only chose to accede to Georgia Tech’s racist request to sit his star Black end, but hired Pinkertons to report on the leaders of the campus movement to play Ward or cancel the game. Prepare to cringe at Yost’s Michigamua nickname as well as the all-too-familiar behavior of the campus anti-anti-racism movement:

This disruptive group included athletes and fraternity members, but its core were the members of Michigamua, the supposedly secret senior honors society. The group had a very close relationship with both Kipke and Yost, the latter of whom was known as the “Big Scalper.” It is almost certain that the group had been asked to disrupt the meeting, by either Yost, Kipke, or both; in a 1942 alumni questionnaire a former Michigamua member recalling the event asked that the interviewer include “a good plug for Kipke who was behind us.”

If you consider those protesting the sitting of Ward were squarely on the side of history, Yost’s characterization of the student protestors leaves little doubt which side he was on:

In a letter to his brother-in-law Dan McGugin a few days after the game, Yost gave a literary sigh of relief that there had been no disruptions by “the colored organization and local radical students,” commenting that “the colored race must be in a bad situation judging from the number of national organizations that are organized to insure [sic.] racial equality or no racial discrimination.”

In December, Yost wrote to Georgia Tech’s coach, to “express to you personally my great appreciation of your assistance in handling what turned out to be a very difficult problem. I never dreamed there would be so much agitation about the matter.” In neither letter did Yost reveal any interest in second-guessing events, his role in them, or their impact on Ward.

And Willis Ward’s own words on the effect of the incident on himself and his team are excruciating to read:

That impact was devastating. As Ward himself later put it: “It was wrong and it will always be wrong. And it killed my desire to excel.” The same malaise struck the entire football team. Already a weak team that had lost the two games before the one against Georgia Tech, they lost every other game of the season—with Ward scoring Michigan’s only points, a touchdown and two field goals, in the remaining five games.

Ward also lost his competitive drive for competing in track, stating later that he did so out of a belief based on his brush with Jim Crow in Ann Arbor that if Hitler asked the U.S. to leave Black athletes off the 1936 Olympic team, they would. As he summarized in a 1983 interview, the Georgia Tech game “killed my desire. I said, well, I will go through the motions and play this season and get my degree and go about my business and try to get a law degree and practice law.”

There is no doubt that Yost’s actions regarding the sitting of Willis Ward were racist.

The report notes concerns held by Ward about attending the university because of stories of racial prejudice in Ann Arbor. The report demonstrates Ward’s (and really his father’s) apprehensions were well-founded, with ample evidence of racism in the actions of the university administrators Yost worked with and around, notably regarding on-campus housing, which was generating controversy for the school at the time of the Ward incident. They also found other Michigan sports when Yost was the football coach but not yet an administrator (and thus out of town 9 months out of the year) had similar or worse records of integration.

I can add from my research on Ann Arbor that several off-campus establishments of this era were particularly notorious for “unofficial” racial segregation. While anti-racism found its voice in a flourishing new campus left in the 1920s and 1930s, a large proportion of mainstream culture at the University of Michigan in that time did not differ significantly from the portrayal of Yost in this report.

Evidence that Yost’s actions “epitomized a long series of actions that worked against the integration of sports” in the report is sometimes contradictory.

Certainly the lack of any Black varsity football players from 1901-1931 (though teams were much smaller in that time) is the strongest evidence that Yost’s arrival “disrupted Michigan’s participation in the slow process by which racial integration in football was occurring.” George Jewett was the first Black player at Michigan or any other Big Ten team, but when he transferred to Northwestern in 1893 he became the last at Michigan until actions by well-meaning Michigan alumni convinced Ward to join the team.

The report notes that the lack of Black athletes on the football squad was remarked by the African American press, and that Yost’s color line, even if it wasn’t explicit, was known to the African American community, as this example from 1932 (regarding Willis Ward playing for Harry Kipke) suggests:

In 1932, when Ward made Varsity it was reported by Black newspapers “that it was the contention of many that former Coach Yost was prejudiced against the colored player” and that when he first arrived in Ann Arbor he was “alleged to have decreed…that no colored student would ever earn a varsity letter” in football.”

The report did not include one more quote I have to this effect, from former Michigan tennis player Dan Kean, a senior in 1934, who later said “If you want to know what it is was like then I’d have to say black students were AT the University but not OF it.” While evidence for a policy of exclusion was (by design) scant, Yost and Michigan had a reputation; the result of this reputation was Black athletes did not think to come to Michigan.

Yost certainly didn’t step in when basketball coach Frank Cappon refused to let Black athlete Franklin Lett try out for the basketball team. The report includes more incidents when Yost missed an opportunity to stand for justice. There’s a reference to “a simple, Anglo-Saxon desire for clean, energetic sport” by Yost’s ghostwriter in 1905 that he allowed to stand.

The report also notes Yost spoke at the Third Race Betterment Conference, organized by then-Michigan president CC Little. Yost’s words, other than a reference to the conference’s own racist title, were mostly innocuous and in line with his “athletics for all” mantra. But Yost was hardly unused to standing up to Michigan’s presidents when it came to support for athletics, and could have done so here.

The report quotes Yost’s second (there were three) successor as football coach, Tad Wieman, with this particularly noxious example of “Nobody Short of Jackie Robinson” syndrome:

There were certain complications that would be difficult for all with a colored man on the squad; that because of this I did not think it advisable for a colored man to be on the squad unless he was good enough to play a good part of the time. In other words, unless he were a regular or near regular, the handicaps to the squad would be greater than the advantages to say nothing of the difficulties that would encounter the individual himself. I assured him, however, that any man who could demonstrate that he was the best man for any position would have the right to play in that position.

There are also instances in the report when Yost’s actions showed, at least outwardly, that he was at least changing with the times. Regarding the most evident one—that Yost had no Black varsity players on his football teams for 30 years—this exchange with the African American press was interesting:

However, the lack of African Americans who played on Michigan’s Varsity football team began to be noticed in the African American press. In 1922 (the year before the Field House was named for Yost) two articles appeared discussing race in the athletic department. The first appeared in February in the Chicago Defender, which had national syndication, regarding rumors about a “color line” in sports at Michigan. The article quoted a letter from Yost to Oscar Baker, the Black alumnus and lawyer in Bay City who would later help African American students with their housing issues, stating “very positively” that “a Colored student athlete stands on the same footing as regards athletics as anyone else in the university.” Yost claimed that he “would not consider a coach worthy of the name who did not feel that the best men qualified to make up the various teams should have a place.” Both Baker and the article accepted Yost’s statements, commenting, “if the student body has Southern traditions, the same does not affect the athletic department.” A month later, the Cleveland Gazette published an article about Black Ohioan DeHart Hubbard who had just enrolled at Michigan. In it, Yost approvingly described Hubbard “as a boy they were pleased to have at Michigan and stated he intended to see that he got a square deal.”

The report found Yost supported a “Law and Order League” in Nashville whose purpose was to prevent lynching, and they found other Black athletes who participated in football despite not making varsity, undermining the link between Yost’s views and Tad Wieman’s remarks. They found Yost, upon becoming athletic director, cooperated in the recruitment of Black track star William DeHart Hubbard, citing Behee’s characterization of this as motivated by competitiveness. And they found public support (one time) for an organization that helped local Black families, and an antipathy for anti-Semitism and support for Jewish athletes that was somewhat remarkable for his time and place.

Errors, Omissions, and Criticism of the Report

For the most part, the 36-page report is a fair and comprehensive account of the consensus historical knowledge of Yost’s record on race. But there are a few significant problems with it, and I also have some questions about their conclusions.

The report makes numerous references to works by Dr. Tyran Steward, a former UM lecturer (and Ohio State Ph.D.) working on a book about Willis Ward, but does not mention another famous Yost incident from Steward’s research that conflicts with portrayal of Yost, this from 1932:

Although Big Blue relied on the Palmer House Hotel for lodging through the years, the hotel’s management was unreceptive to the requests made by Kipke for Ward to stay there. When they declined to alter their policy, “Yost flip-flopped from being a segregationist.” Ward remembered Yost saying, “Well, we have been staying at this hotel since 1900. We will pull every team that we have and not stay. . . . And I am going to see if I can’t get other Big Ten schools to also not stay at your hotel.” Officials at the Palmer House Hotel relented.

Most of our modern discussion of the Willis Ward incident, in fact, draws heavily on the research and conclusions of Behee in his first book. Behee is a friend, his recent book Coach Yost: Michigan’s Tradition Maker comes recommended by myself and Craig Ross on this site, and Behee has contributed an article on Yost for our Hail to the Victors 2021 magazine this summer. He was not contacted by the commission. Other experienced historians like Dr. Steward, John U. Bacon, and John Kryk who have written books about Yost, can give you a stronger answer than I can, and probably could have done better than the report. So could Greg Kinney and Brian Williams at the Bentley Library. Greg Dooley, the program’s historian in chief, was not even referenced in the report.

The report explicitly drew from familiar works of these historians, though to my knowledge none of them were informed their writings were being used for this purpose, nor that the committee was considering removing Yost’s name from the hockey arena. I believe the committee erred in not seeking feedback from these experts before publishing their recommendation, as this can be interpreted as disinterest in interpretations that do not fit the committee’s conclusions.

I also found one important note was misrepresented in a way that may have played a role in the conclusion. On Page 26 the authors write:

There was some precedent for that hope. McGugin had told Yost how when Ohio State played against the segregated Naval Academy, a Black player, William Bell, was not permitted to play against the Midshipmen in Annapolis, but was allowed to play the following year in Columbus. The Vanderbilt coach had also claimed that he had been willing “not to make any particular point [about playing against Bell] as we were going to their field” in 1931, but he had been overruled by Vanderbilt’s Board of Trustees.

While Ohio State did allow “Big Bill” Bell to play in the return game against Navy in 1931, they only did so because the Naval Academy, under its new head coach Edgar Miller, changed its policy in the interim, a fact that McGugin explained in his letter to Yost (see Benching Jim Crow: The Rise and Fall of the Color Line in Southern College Sports, 1890-1980, by Charles H. Martin). Ohio State benched Bell in the 1931 Vanderbilt game prior to the second Navy title, and in all three of those games deferred to the visitors’ requests. By 1934, Ohio State had hired a new coach who reinstated the color barrier for the rest of the decade, refusing to even let Jesse Owens try out of for the football team (their administration wouldn’t let Owens live on campus either). Yost’s diffident approach in the leadup to the Georgia Tech game was probably seen by him as a softening of OSU’s example.

This is part of a greater failure in the report to contextualize Michigan’s racist performance under Yost against norms for similar schools of the day. I believe this failure is mostly due to a lack of information, not willful ignorance. The report makes reference to only three other studies, two by Ivy League university presses and one by Stanford. The latter (the link in Michigan’s report is broken—the report can be found here), ironically concerns Stanford’s founding president, David Starr Jordan, who in addition to being a leading eugenicist was Yost’s greatest contemporary critic. Michigan knows much more about its racist past in the early 20th Century because we have authors who’ve studied it; few other schools have partisans so willing to look under the hood.

One line of evidence they did not follow but could have used to enlighten Yost’s racial attitudes was his relationship with other important figures at the university in his time. Yost was close with his immediate predecessor Philip Bartelme, his former player and team manager, and athletic director from 1908-1921. Yost was also often in contact with 1910-1913 baseball coach Branch Rickey; Yost trusted him enough to hire Del Pratt and then Ray Fisher on Rickey’s recommendations. Bartelme left Michigan to join his good friend Rickey in Major League Baseball, where Bartelme scouted and Rickey signed Jackie Robinson. It’s a fact that Michigan had no Black baseball players from 1883 to 1923, at which point Yost supported Rudy Ash’s joining the team, under Fisher. Yost’s close association with two men involved in the most famous desegregation moment in sports history is worth at least exploring, especially since their own records at Michigan are hardly better than Yost’s.

There’s little doubt Yost had the power and opportunity in 1934 to support Willis Ward had he chosen, or that some actions by Kipke and associates could be interpreted as carrying out Yost’s will. The report claims Yost was “disappointingly enabled by” 1929-1951 president Alexander Ruthven and members of the Board of Control, though concludes that “our research convinces us that he must bear the responsibility for the actions described in this report.” It is interesting that contemporaries who sought to change Yost’s “cowardly plan” addressed themselves to Ruthven. This could have been because they saw Ruthven as more receptive to their pleas, but could also indicate a balance of power. I also find it interesting that Yost’s most progressive acts (and indeed his hiring as athletic director) took place during the 1920-1925 tenure of President Marion Burton, who was by accounts Yost’s only true ally and friend among the presidents he served under. A more thorough understanding of Yost and other power figures’ relationships and spheres of influence might allay doubts as to which figure bears the brunt of responsibility.

I did not think the evidence in the report supported one of the conclusions, that Yost “endorsed the view that football was an Anglo Saxon sport at a time when that identification carried powerful racial messages.” It’s certainly easy to point at the 1905 book and say “It’s got his name on it.” However the footnote in the report is correct in that consensus historical opinion holds Yost was unlikely to have contributed that line:

Yost was listed as the author on the book’s cover, but the text likely came from Charles Van Keuren, a Michigan alumnus who sought to capitalize on Yost’s fame to boost sales. Per their arrangement, Yost would supply the copy, play diagrams, and team photographs, while Van Keuren supplied the text. Thus, who penned those words is unknown, but Yost clearly did not strongly object to them.

The report also misses some important context by ending its story with Yost, which was absolutely not the end of racism in Michigan’s football program or athletic administration. Fourteen years after the Willis Ward affair, the fall after the Cotton Bowl and SMU quietly backed down after a Penn State player said “all or none,” Gene Derricotte was the only non-white player on Bennie Oosterbaan's 1948 "Mad Magicians" team, which repeated as national champions. A decade later the roster had expanded considerably, but Michigan still only had three Black players on it. Behee’s book has direct evidence that after “integration” Michigan participated in an unofficial quota system that kept Black participation to just one player per class until 1968, an effect you can literally see in the 1969 team photo:

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I don’t think more examples of racism in Michigan Athletics in any way exonerates Fielding Yost for his actions. To the contrary I think these examples underline the severity of it, and how deeply rooted, though quiet, these practices were, and therefore how righteous and necessary the campus activism of Black students and their allies was to effect change.

My Interpretation

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Michigan named the rink for Red in 2017. [Bill Rapai]

I speak here for myself, not for MGoBlog or anyone else who works here. I’ve studied a lot of Michigan history from before, during, and long after Yost, and from that I can say with some authority that racism at Michigan neither began nor ended nor changed much on account of Yost.

The Crisler era that followed was marred by unofficial quotas to keep Black players to a minimum. Schembechler made it clear to his players they were to stay away from the successor movements of the social justice activists of Yost’s time. When I was at Michigan in the early 2000s and the school’s admissions policies were national legal news, the College Republicans were given permission to set up in Angell Hall selling “Affirmative Action Bagels” that were $1.00 for white customers and 10 cents for Black students. I doubt any Black student in the history of the school has ever made it through their scholastic career without at least some racist incident on campus. Racism at Michigan isn’t some nebulous problem of the past. It’s our reality today.

How does it happen? Read the report. It’s a culture, a cancer, and nothing would have changed if there hadn’t been people who cared more about justice than whether “polite” society gets smacked in the face.

As for Yost’s culpability, of course he knew he was wrong; why else would this man who loved the limelight suddenly shirk it? Why else would the most competitive man of his era sit one of his best players, or a coach whose entire style was about building up confidence undermine his team? That this was not unusual for a man of his times who mostly changed with his times does not dismiss his failure. He no doubt failed to meet the moment when Michigan played Georgia Tech in 1934, and his subsequent actions to defend his decision rightfully earn him censure by future generations. This was the definition of an “I don’t see what the big deal is”-style racism that allowed that culture to flourish then and survive today. Placing the blame for the effects of one’s moral cowardice on “radicals” and “agitators” had miserable precedents then and more today.

Yost’s upholding of the “gentleman’s agreement” is evidenced enough in the makeup of his teams. If we all take away nothing else from this report, I want us all to understand this is how racism works. It’s not the things that are said aloud, because the whole point is not to have to say anything. Black athletes knew not to play for Michigan under Fielding Yost. When one man finally did, his worst suspicions were confirmed. Yost made racist decisions, and I’ve had no problem saying so when I talk about his contributions to Michigan athletics. I do not find him in any way remarkable in this regard from other athletic directors of his era, and I have no problem with calling out the lot of them if it helps us move past the decision cycle.

I find attempts to place one man on this curve, with “Okay, you can keep your name on your building” at some undefined point along it, to be a shallow exercise for people who want easy labels. The whole society was racist, but inside of that you had some people trying to change things for the betterment of us all. It’s better that we named the renovated room in the student Union after Willis Ward, and that Michigan and Northwestern are choosing to honor George Jewett. Whatever you do with Yost Ice Arena, find something to honor Joseph Feldman, William Fisch, and Danny Cohen, the names of student ringleaders Yost’s Pinkertons gave to President Ruthven, and who were quietly dismissed in July 1935. Without those three the next administrator faced with this question would not have feared a backlash, as Yost didn’t after the example of Ohio State. Whatever they do with Crisler for the quota system, I think we need to honor the few guys who did come: Guy Curtis, David Raimey, Bennie McRae, Jim Pace, Bob Marion, Lowell Perry, Gene Derricotte, and more who had to be greater than great, and carry the reputation of millions with their own.

I believe Willis Ward that Yost’s decision ruined him and the team, as I believe Triplett that his teammates’ support motivated their great 1947 run. I believe that this extends to the Michigan community and greater society, which becomes energized when we stick up for each other, and demoralized when we don’t.

I personally don’t have much care for what a building is named. I have great memories in Yost Ice Arena, and they won’t be affected if it’s renamed Berenson Ice Arena, because most of those experiences were thanks to Red’s teams. If years from now history shows Berenson failed in his moment, they can change it to Hughes Arena to honor the 30 first rounders that family sent here.

I find most conversation around honorifics either obvious or boring, and this one falls in the latter camp. C.C. Little got a building because they noticed all but two presidents—Little and Ruthven—weren’t going to have buildings so they found a pair. Winchell got a house because they needed nine former professors with long tenures. You spent more time reading this than the people who named those spent on their subjects. It’s an easy call.

Yost Ice Arena is not. It’s a balance. The Field House was named after him because he invented the concept, and the name was bestowed after another contentious fight between the faculty who found Yost’s zeal for athletic competition distasteful, and the regents and alumni who were all about the football. His association with hockey is equally earned; Yost raised the hockey program to varsity status in late 1922, and in 1928 he purchased the Weinberg Coliseum they’d been renting, renovated it, and filled it with artificial ice, just before the Depression hit and ended all the building projects. His impact on campus was such that I could make a similar case for almost any sport, and his impact on women's athletics at Michigan is second only to the passage of Title IX.

His impact on Black athletes and would-be athletes who never got a chance to play at Michigan may not have differed from an average man of his time, but it was manifest. When nearing the end of his career he had a chance to demonstrate his growth, Yost chose to duck. That is now as much a part of his legacy as the buildings.

I believe the racial issues at Michigan in Yost’s time were systemic, and while it’s fair to hold one man accountable for his role in that system, wiping his name from the building is a performative gesture, not a remedy. More than a name, I think there should be a bronze placard outside the arena, telling the Willis Ward story where people waiting for their friends will read it because it’s too cold to hold a phone in your face.

I’m less thrilled about the standard that “The names on our buildings constitute a ‘moral map’ of our institution.” I think this runs the risk of making honorees two-dimensional, and will lead to more icky donor names that are harder to correct. History is not a moral map. It shows us where we’ve been, what choices led to darker paths, what perils might lie along the way, and how we’ve corrected mistakes.

More than anything I think that the 36-page report produced by the advisory committee is something every Michigan fan should read, especially if you choose to comment on this after. More important by far than the measure of one long-dead man is that we gain a better awareness of how regular living men and women contribute to racism at the University of Michigan, and how being a part of this society has soaked the stench of it into all of us. If you’re pointing to one guy and saying “He’s a racist (and because I’m pointing I’m not),” you’re missing the point.

I think the story of Willis Ward, and the context it happened in, are relevant today. I think his heroic choice to rebreak Michigan’s color barrier should be celebrated, that the efforts of his recruiters should be recognized, that people should know if not for Harry Kipke those recruiters probably wouldn’t have even tried. I think we should honor the heroic voices of activists of the past, and that the righteousness of the causes they agitated for are instructive in how we regulate our annoyance at their successors’ insistence we face our facts. I think knowing the particular way a man like Fielding Yost failed will help us find our voice when it’s our moment.

Comments

micheal honcho

May 26th, 2021 at 4:50 PM ^

The racism in your statement "Goerge Floyd was a criminal" is perfect. So do you call anyone you know, or may be related to, who has say, a DUI or maybe some old Disturbing the Peace charge, a criminal? Careful now. I'm not asking if they are "technically" a criminal and asking you to agree to that. I'm sure you would. I'm asking do you refer to uncle Doug or brother Steve as a criminal when you discuss them with other people? Yeah, I thought not.

4godkingandwol…

May 25th, 2021 at 6:28 PM ^

We should just sell naming rights on a 5 year basis to the highest corporate bidder for each of our buildings. 

i find all this idolatry to be cancerous and goes against teachings of our forefathers and Christianity.

rice4114

May 25th, 2021 at 7:37 PM ^

Here is something that may strike a chord with some, good or bad. What if a couple generations from now the individuals have all been accounted for. What if the next step is that Block M has to go including any and all ties with what WAS The University of Michigan?  The university that let this happens need to be ended. This is not supporting Yost at all, but just think about the next level. When Universities and other establishments are being held accountable for what happened back then? Will the group that now seems so ready to take down the names of our leaders be willing to take down the establishment that put them in power? I think it will happen down the road and there may be a choice to be made. If it was the University itself what side would you be on? Again this is not support of Yost moreso a thought on the entire establishment that supported this man and his decisions. 

Maize4Ever

May 26th, 2021 at 1:14 PM ^

He was downvoted because UM is filled with a bunch of Liberal do gooders WOKE PC crowd who think tbhere in the Cool kid crowd for being so WOKE...its the new thing u gotta PROVE how WOKE you are now to be accepted...and now they will come down vote this as well...

mooseman

May 25th, 2021 at 10:56 PM ^

Removing them isn't the goal. Getting them to live up to their potential and lofty goals is, whether it be a university or the country. I defended this country. I don't want it to be removed or dissolved. I do want to see it live up to its promise for everyone. It's about striving and recognizing mistakes and trying to be better.  There is no "end" or "perfect" (a more perfect union, remember?). There will always be people fighting this progress because the ideas of the past favor them.

We can remember and recognize all that Yost did for the university. In several areas he was a man of vision. We can also acknowledge that, at a time that  it was certainly clear to others there was a better way, he stood in the way of progress. He was in a position to lead and he fell short. Not a villain, just didn't represent the Leaders and Best.

 

sharklover

May 25th, 2021 at 8:59 PM ^

You might be right. 

The way I see it, there is a chance that institutions can be reformed in the future. The University of Michigan has a checkered past, but a lot of good has come out of it, and continues to come out of it. You can always improve and/or remove some of the bad stuff. 

I feel the same way about cops. They have done some good things and some bad things. Inasmuch as you can improve or remove some of the bad stuff, they will hopefully get better over time. But there are some who believe that cops are irreconcilably irredeemable - probably some that feel the same about the University. I don't side with them, but that is a point of view.

But with a historical figure, there's no chance for future reform. Yost is dead and his legacy is what it is. Maybe he should be 'cancelled,' maybe not. But if you are in a position to make decisions about bestowing honorifics and you choose to leave his name on buildings, you are effectively cosigning on his legacy. At the very least, if you are going to keep honoring his name, do so in a way to confronts and highlights the things that he did that were clearly objectionable. Same with those that are in positions to make admissions to universities more fair and equitable, same with those who are in positions to reform police departments and curb some of their negative elements. If you choose not to take the path of reform and don't take the opportunity to point out and expose past elements that are undesirable, you are perpetuating systems or values that should be exorcised. 

DennisFranklinDaMan

May 25th, 2021 at 7:48 PM ^

I'm essentially fine with removing Yost's name -- I'll get used to whatever is chosen to replace it and move on. I do, however, feel bad that in doing so we'll be removing the name of someone who undeniably helped Michigan football reach its historical pinnacle, and create the modern (and, I assume we all agree, overall highly entertaining) Michigan athletic department. 

On balance, I guess we're saying, it doesn't matter how much you've done for Michigan athletics if, simultaneously, your racism hurt people. And I guess, as I process this, I'm ok with that. But ... while Seth may say he doesn't care what we name buildings, I always enjoyed the history of Michigan's athletic department that was all around me. Yost. Crisler. Canham. Schembechler. It meant something to me. Our decision that, on balance, Yost was a bad man (and it does feel like that's what we're deciding) ... means that my enjoyment of that history was misplaced, and that hurts, a bit.

You can say it shouldn't hurt, or that that pain doesn't matter. All may be true. Doesn't change the fact that it does. And it's probably worth recognizing it, and acknowledging it as the source of resistance to these recommendations.

C'est la vie. 

Yostal

May 25th, 2021 at 9:07 PM ^

I will throw on the praise for this piece.  It helped frame the discussion for me and see a lot of the larger aspects.

History is complex and only becomes more complex as you start digging around.  We may never know the whole story simply because no one at the time thought to write down details that we would consider pertinent now.

The hard conversations are important to have, even when you don't feel like you got anywhere.

Team 101

May 25th, 2021 at 9:09 PM ^

I'm very conflicted about this.  There is no doubt that Fielding Yost was not an exemplary figure when it comes to race relations.  It is also clear that there are members of the university community who are offended that the fieldhouse is named after him and their concerns cannot be ignored.  On the other hand there probably would not have been a Yost Fieldhouse without Fielding Yost and also very possible that there would not be a Michigan hockey program without Fielding Yost as the program became a varsity program under his leadership, the facilities at the Colosseum (without which the program probably would not have survived the depression) were built under his leadership and the program may have folded in the early 1980's without the fieldhouse to support the team.  In addition, it sets a bar for whose name can be a building as I presume many buildings on campus are named for less accomplished persons whose handling of race relations were no better.  Thing of everything named after every administrator who could have fired Fielding Yost for this but looked the other way. 

I don't know the answer to this.  I'm not going to pretend to.  But I suggest that if the building is not named after Yost it be hereafter called the "1116 South State Street Building" because I would hate for Red or the Hughes Family to be subject to similar scrutiny 100 years from now.

HenneGivenSunday

May 25th, 2021 at 9:11 PM ^

 I believe that this extends to the Michigan community and greater society, which becomes energized when we stick up for each other, and demoralized when we don’t.

This is a hell of a line, Seth.  Thanks for writing this.   

UWSBlue

May 25th, 2021 at 9:15 PM ^

Keep in mind, Yost's actions had an enduring impact on these guys who were just as much students as athletes at the university. Generations of Americans have failed to meet their potential because of racism which in turn, has held the U.S. back from meeting it's own potential.

Look no further than the Hidden Figures book & film which detailed the U.S. losing the race to orbit the earth to the Soviets because racism didn't permit African-American mathematicians in the room.

DennisFranklinDaMan

May 25th, 2021 at 9:41 PM ^

I feel like I'm actively on the wrong side of this debate, politically, and that makes me nervous, but ... I think I've decided that ... we didn't name the Field House after Yost because he was such a wonderful man, but because of what he had achieved and built in the athletic department. And he did achieve a phenomenal amount, even with his shameful treatment of black athletes taken into account.

I'm ok with naming the Field House after him. As far as I can tell he didn't do anything illegal, or even particularly surprising in the times he lived in, and while that doesn't make him a good guy, I don't think it's an irrelevant consideration either. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson had slaves. I don't think we should remove their names from the institutions (and states) we've named after them. 

Not just because "historical context matters," but because we're not celebrating them as superior human beings -- or at least I'm not. We're celebrating and acknowledging their achievements, despite their flaws.

(Note the difference between statues of Jefferson Davis or Stonewall Jackson, erected specifically because of their racial policies, and not because of their achievements).

Imposing a rule that says "only the most virtuous deserve recognition" is a losing game, not just because standards change (what happens 150 years from now when we conclude that eating meat was knowing murder, because after all some people even today believe it is?), but because it doesn't allow us to recognize achievements.

Yes, I think Yost should remain the name of the Field House, even as we should make a point of teaching everyone, from childhood up, that dividing people up into "good people" and "bad people" is a false dichotomy. Yost was flawed. Thomas Jefferson was flawed. John Glenn was flawed. Saint Augustine was flawed. I'm ok with that. Let's teach it.

But let's not let that be the only lesson learned about them.

Seth

May 25th, 2021 at 11:48 PM ^

I think you've hit on an interesting point, which is what are we actually saying with a building named for someone? I've seen it argued that it's the whole of the person, and the university itself said they want to build a "Moral map" of the things the school stands for. These are lofty goals, but almost feel like a waste of time because we're already trained to be cynical about the people buildings are named for.

But if I think at all about the name of the building I'm in, I think I assume the figure did something for the institution, not that they were an excellent person. If you're in the Seth M. Fisher Building on campus, you'd probably guess I gave money to the school first, and if not that I was probably some big-headed dude who lasted a long time or invented something really cool.

With Yost or Schembechler, I think you'd assume they're honoring successful coaches, and only learn later that they're actually the reasons those buildings are on campus. I don't really know anybody who assumes the person a building is named for was a good person, probably because we're so used to buildings being named after some old donor or an important institutional leader they wanted to honor.

I mean, if we really honored great people with building names, then why is there only one building (out of 102) named for a person of color, and 12 (most of them dorms) named after women? https://www.michigandaily.com/administration/daily-research-finds-only-…

DennisFranklinDaMan

May 26th, 2021 at 1:04 AM ^

Makes sense.

And I'm not suggesting any later re-evaluation is inappropriate. If it turns out someone is falsely receiving credit for work done by someone else, for instance -- if it turns out Jonas Salk's wife actually did all the work -- then we can certainly reevaluate the basis for naming a building after him.

I dunno. I grew up in Ann Arbor, and not once in my life did it occur to me that the hockey building was named after Fielding H. Yost because he had been a particularly good or honorable person. I never even wondered about it. I knew he put together the Point a Minute teams, and essentially initiated our (relative) century of football (relative) dominance. I was satisfied with that.

bluesparkhitsy…

May 27th, 2021 at 12:28 AM ^

This is a more articulate version of where my thinking has been.  These days, we typically name buildings after donors.  These donors are rich, which is not a characteristic that neatly tracks virtue. Since that practice is well known, I doubt many people are assuming those named on buildings are necessarily virtuous.

AlbanyBlue

May 25th, 2021 at 10:39 PM ^

One of the best pieces of writing I've ever read online. This site just continues to amaze. Bravo, Seth!

I don't know exactly what to say about this. Given the times and the damage clearly done to Willis Ward and others, my first reaction is to rename the building. On the other hand, are we to the point where serious character problems nullify positive works? Clearly with Schembechler, the problems do nullify other work, but is Michigan going to take the step that this does as well? It seems so. 

The only thing is, how many in power from that era, and even future ones, will stand up to this kind of scrutiny? As thinking evolves and changes, the focus of scrutiny will change as well. Fifty years from now, will it be meat-eaters, fish-eaters, fossil-fuel users?

We sure will have a difficult time naming things after people. And maybe that's okay too.

One thing, though, is for certain. Seth's piece is wonderfully done and has brought about a detailed, nuanced conversation with a lot of thought behind the responses. Awesome.

DennisFranklinDaMan

May 25th, 2021 at 11:27 PM ^

I think I've decided I'm going to be the Bo-defender here. The suggestion that the situation with Schembechler is "clear" compared to Yost is incorrect. Indeed, it may be backwards.

Eh, I just wrote a long post, but who needs that? In short, I haven't seen any evidence at all that Bo actually knew how traumatic and long-lasting the pain from Anderson's acts actually was, and I don't have any need to hold him to that remarkably high standard: You should have acted, even though you didn't realize how serious the offenses were. He came from a WWII-era generation that tended to mistake complaints about physical discomfort for whining, and his ignorance about the true nature of the harm was common at the time.

If he didn't know how bad what was happening was -- and that failure to understand was not unusual -- I don't get the anger against him. 

When I was very little, my parents mistook my pneumonia for a cold until it was almost too late. They knew my discomfort was happening. They knew I was suffering. But they didn't rush me to the ER. That mistake was (only almost, thank goodness) tragic. But it didn't in any sense mean they were uncaring or worthy of opprobrium.

Jeez. We all wish Bo had done more. But wow, the sanctimony here. Anderson is the bad guy. Not Bo.

kyeblue

May 25th, 2021 at 11:34 PM ^

I am sure that those living in Leningrad were a lot happier than when they lived in Petersburg.

I have no interest defending anyone who is dead but the cancel culture is purely ideological and at the best will lead us to nowhere better.  

Icehole Woody

May 26th, 2021 at 1:09 AM ^

Michigan’s football team was integrated in 1934 unlike most Big Ten teams at the time.  So, I have a very hard time buying the idea that Yost was a racist.   The deal AD Yost struck with Georgia Tech included benching Tech’s star player.  It was a business decision that Yost made that allowed the game to be played.  Pretty thin and bordering on a cheap shot if this is all this committee could find to second guess 87 years later.  But boy, the committee sure looks virtuous.  

budg man

May 26th, 2021 at 2:52 AM ^

there is a lot of blah blah blah on related to building naming

Cancel culture wins

Occam's Razor - Simplest explanation is usually the best one

Simplify all building naming using letters and numbers

This can be managed by a newly formed group -  "Web Enabled Representatives on Numbers & Naming of University Tracts" 

Simplified name' WE R Numb NUTs - email [email protected]

Of course we will need to have a separate University Commission on choice of letters (Latin, Cyrillic,  etc. ) and numbers (Arabic, Binary [if we can still do that], Roman, etc.), but that is probably a matter for another thread or three or four

Seth

May 26th, 2021 at 9:27 AM ^

I'm guessing you didn't mean to publish this thrice, so I removed the other two. This kind of response is so whiny. You can address the report and conclusions of these UM professors without bawling on the floor about "cancel culture" then making sophomoric jokes. Most of the people responding are acting like adults--the few of you who aren't need to do better or step away.

XiX

May 26th, 2021 at 10:57 AM ^

It's fascinating how some constantly cry "cancel culture" as if it's some new and strange device solely used against them. Lest we forget, there was a segment of this country that tried to "cancel" the country at one point (secession) and still are to this day (see earlier in the thread). Many of this same group cancelled anyone who tried to vote, who was a little too "uppity," or was a little too successful for their taste (lynching, domestic terrorism) and made sure to cancel anyone who dared challenge the systems they implemented to ensure their way of life (abolitionists and civil rights activists). Forcing them out of jobs, homes, businesses, churches...

"Cancel Culture" isn't some new thing at all. What's new is that it's now being pointed back, just without all the violence and murdery stuff.

Mike Damone

May 26th, 2021 at 11:40 AM ^

Thoughtful and well written article, Seth.  But shouldnt't posters on a sports blog be able to make a "sophomoric joke" or two?  May not be a well thought out or intelligent response, and the humor may not be funny to some - but why even respond to it, and tell a poster like this that he "needs to step away".

BornInA2

May 26th, 2021 at 1:22 PM ^

"History is not a moral map. It shows us where we’ve been, what choices led to darker paths, what perils might lie along the way, and how we’ve corrected mistakes."

Seems like you asserted that it isn't something, then explained why it is exactly that.

As for the Yost (and others) situation, I dunno. On one hand it's a slippery slope to evaluate people using standards eight decades out of context. On the other hand, he seemingly contributed to the continuity of a bad thing. A bad thing that is *still* a problem...don't have to look far in college football to see it.

Maybe we should just stop attaching names to buildings. I'd be just fine with "Michigan Ice Arena".

bweldon

May 27th, 2021 at 9:32 PM ^

The keyword in their statement is MORAL.  Yes, history is a map, it shows us where we have been and what we came from and were able to overcome.  It is the morality label and lesson that these people are trying to thrust on someone who was born in 1871.  They either do not realize or refuse to accept that people and morality standards change and evolve as the society they are in does so.  What we find reprehensible today such as slavery, human trafficking, are still considered acceptable in other societies in this world.  There are still places where a woman is not considered a citizen but property of the male head of the house.  
 

I will not say it is wrong to hold those in the past to our moral standards, however, it is highly hypocritical especially when we are far from the most morally pure society right now.  It is more about people being unwilling to look in the dark corners of history and see, discuss and learn from things that in most cases we today see as wrong.  

Was his decision as AD to hold out the player because of his race, yes, no denying that.  however, I would question his decision to set up the game in the first place all the while knowing that Georgia Tech would end up making that demand.  He made mistakes, we as an enlightened society should look at those mistakes out in the bright light of critical examination and discuss what he could have done better, and find ways when we are forced with the same sort of challenges to know what is right from wrong and hope that in the future we ourselves are not being judged based upon some futuristic set of moral standards.

 

elhead

May 26th, 2021 at 3:03 PM ^

I tell you when I see our folks on MGoBlog - starting with Seth and his thoughtful column - being able to negotiate this terrain and have some good conversation in its wake, I feel a lot more hopeful for the world. GO BLUE!

SpacemanSpiff

May 26th, 2021 at 4:01 PM ^

Really interesting read, Seth. Thanks for taking the time to put it all together. I find the additional context helps as I think about all of these discussions.

Sultans17

May 26th, 2021 at 4:22 PM ^

Great piece Seth!  As a side note, I always suspected the Penn State chant was stolen from DePaul's basketball team, circa 1978, when Ray Meyer Sr coached Curtis Watkins, Gary Garland, and Dave Corzine and they made a few deep tournament runs including a Final 4. 

DePaul played at Alumni Hall, a tiny bandbox under the "L" tracks in Lincoln Park, and no one had ever heard of the school, so the student section would chant "We are. (clap clap) DePaul"  at games. I watched a ton of college football back then and never, ever heard Penn State students using that cheer until maybe the 90s?  But hey, Beano Cook worshipped them and likely gifted them ownership of the stolen cheer,  so a nation of gritty little Nittany Lions fans think they invented it. 

micheal honcho

May 26th, 2021 at 4:57 PM ^

I think the point that gets missed is this. I would be unfair to judge someone whom we've placed in a position of high historical prestige behavior by todays standards. That is indeed unfair. The question is, was their behavior EXCEPTIONAL  and WORTHY of the prestige we've placed upon their name even by the standards of their day? I mean if Yost was agreed to be pretty much the mean center in terms of his racism for his time, does that, upon retrospect, qualify him to be singled out as exceptional and worthy of praise? I say no. If all you did was manage to elevate yourself to the mean for your times in terms of your racism? You aren't as "exceptional" as we were led to believe.

BornInAA

May 26th, 2021 at 9:45 PM ^

Ha so you are all going to wipe out Yost and Bo.

Wipe the wins from the record too.

Michigan football isn't crap without Yost and Bo - an average middling team with no history or tradition.

bluesparkhitsy…

May 27th, 2021 at 12:18 AM ^

What these discussions are often lacking is something Seth brings in abundance: nuance.  

By contrast, the committee's "moral road map" suffers from a lack of nuance.  If those named on buildings must be moral, then we presumably should revere them rather than looking at them as flawed people who nevertheless contributed something we celebrate.  Isn't it better to admit that each of these people may be flawed in some way -- maybe even some significant way -- and still recognize them for a particular achievement or body of work?  

None of that suggests an easy answer.  Bo and/or Yost may be so tarnished by what we now know that we cannot be content their achievements, at least for a while.  Perhaps some people of color will feel slighted if the University chooses to leave Yost's name in place.  Perhaps they are right to feel that way.  But perhaps we instead get more comfortable with the idea that there isn't an easy answer here and learn to have better discussions no matter whose names remain on our buildings.

MarcusBrooks

May 27th, 2021 at 9:52 AM ^

when you think about it, the ENTIRE athletic department is Yost's doing. 

he envisioned the Big House, the first intermural building, Yost field house. 

All to make Michigan the Leaders and Best. 

he wasn't perfect, no man is. 

he left a legacy that has some area's that are concerning. 

but erasing him from Michigan and the building the HE is responsible for isn't right and isn't justice. 

we need to evolve and move forward, not disparage the past we need to LEARN from it. 

what is happening now with the tearing down statues and re-writing of history, censorship, bullying those who don't agree with viewpoints, taking away rights, this is how the nazi's did things. 

the Bully mob is gaining control of this country and the end results are not goign to be good for anyone. 

EVERYONE in America has a chance to do good and lift themselves up to a better life. As has ALWAYS been the case, some people will have more than others. But EACH PERSON get's to choose what they do, do they find something they enjoy doing and find a way to make money at it? or do they decide it's everyone else's fault that they are poor and destroy what others have built? 

they way to be better is not by destroying the past, it is by learning from it and not repeating the evils of bad people who were convinced THEY were doing the right thing.  

tearing down statues and chiseling off the names of those who built great things is destructive NOT productive. 

the Woke Mob (UofM included) needs to channel their energy into something positive instead of being the cause of the destruction of America. 

bweldon

May 27th, 2021 at 8:32 PM ^

Seth great article again.  

First I will always love Michigan no matter what happened in the past and what is going to happen in the future however:

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".  
 

The fact that they are looking at doing this just screams of "we want to feel good about ourselves so we are going try to hide or destroy anything that makes us feel uncomfortable.  The history of this country is filled with events that at one time or another will make every person feel uncomfortable about them.  However, these days instead of looking at them and learning how to avoid or eliminate the cause of those events more and more people are wanting to hide them. 

I’m less thrilled about the standard that “The names on our buildings constitute a ‘moral map’ of our institution.” I think this runs the risk of making honorees two-dimensional, and will lead to more icky donor names that are harder to correct. History is not a moral map. It shows us where we’ve been, what choices led to darker paths, what perils might lie along the way, and how we’ve corrected mistakes.

 This comment is spot on, and my wife who is a History teacher would agree that instead of taking Yost's name off of the building they need to find a way to share his failings and teach from them.  He was a human who was born and raised in a time when the country was trying to grow and understand that there was a new normal and that no matter what they thought or wanted.  

I guess the question that I would ask all of those people is are you so socially and morally pure that you can sit here and judge a man who was raised in a time when our country was still pulling itself out of a civil war, who has never in any writing I have seen claimed to be perfect.  All the while instead of using his failings as cornerstones for education you are more willing to simply hope that by taking his name of a single athletic building on the campus he will fade into the darkness of time and never be spoken about again?  Because that will not happen, he is part of the athletic and football history of the school and we should be holding him up as an example of a man who despite his enormous success fell down and failed, and show he is human and that we as a society need to realize that his decision nearly destroyed a young man.  

And maybe like you said find a way to show the dark side of the University of Michigan, stand up and be the leader in pulling back the covers on the school's history of racism, and segregation, own that history, and admit that the school that you are so proud of has a dark past, has done things that you today are not proud of, and that we as an entity admit our past failures and look for ways to move beyond them and towards a time when there is not a need to discuss these sorts of actions happening in the world, cover them up and hope they go away because they are difficult or uncomfortable to talk about.  99% of hard decisions in life have some sort of discomfort involved with them,  take the hard road not the easy and lazy one.  


I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. - MLK from his I have a dream speach

That is where society needs to be and until that is the way people behave and look beyond skin color, religion, place of origin, and all the other factors that make each individual unique and treat every person equally.