WIS v UM: Every year thru 2021
Badgers on UM schedule every year from 2015-2021. Can someone explain this to me? The imbalance of the BigTen divisions is a farce but it's exacerbated by our ongoing games versus Wisconsin.
Its hard for me to believe this kind of chicanery would go down with a strong leader/advocate at the helm, like Don Canham.
Correction: 2016-2021, six consecutive years
Parity based scheduling. Every East team was matched up (based on historical record) with a West counterpart. Those teams would meet 4 times in a six year stretch. The other 2 was just a cycling phenomenon.
Wholly correct.
It also makes up for the fact that Michigan did NOT play them from 2010-2015.
I believe I saw something (which may have just been speculation) that Michigan is slotted to get Minnesota as its parity partner in the next six-year cycle, but this could be disrupted by an end to the nine conference games thesis.
Oh god, knowing our luck Fleck will turn Minny into a powerhouse in the next couple years...
2011-2015
I guess I can understand you blocking out 2010, when your opponent does 700 straight runs up the middle on your defense for 10,000 yards. Nice job, RichRod.
It's Wisconsin's only win at the big house in the last 25 years but it still smarts.
History to be forgotten and never repeated. Burn that tape!
Indeed. In fact, burn most of the wins from those years too.
Remember beating UMass 42-37? Ugh.
Rich Rod had a defense? Mark Dantonio still sends him a Christmas card and will do so for life.
Seriously. Without Rich Rod, Dantonio likely doesn’t have nearly the amount of success he does now against UM. That guy is a good coach, but man has he had a lot of luck and fortune go his way while helming MSU.
That's a load of crap.
"foot in the door" to start building a program?
Sure.
Blaming Rich Rod because Jim Mutherfucking Harbaugh is 1-2 ten years later?
Pathetic.
Maybe you should look up MSU's record against OSU for the last 10 years.
RichRod's Defense.
A few days after they won the Rose Bowl a few Wisky players were at my local bar. I spoke to one of their starting OLineman over beers for a while. A few things:
1. He told me that he grew up a big Michigan fan and was bummed when he never got an offer.
2. Said that he actually felt a little sad for our defense when they just ran the ball down our throats. While growing up he loved how good Michigan was in the trenches so it was odd to him how soft we were that season.
I can only hope. I can go to the games at Minnesota.
I don't fully comprehend the parity based claim of the BigTen unless they are adding something else to the mix.
Wisconsin has been the #1 team in the West Division. Ohio State has been the #1 team in the East Division and they get Nebraska, MSU gets Northwestern, and PSU gets Iowa.
It feels like we got the raw end of that deal.
I like it with the new format. The more tough opponents the better in my opinion, you can get away with a loss or two and it’s quality. Plus Wisconsin is pretty much going to be the West champion 4 out of 5 years shot for a potential rematch
Complaining about Warde’s leadership? Actual reason is below, but you assume a stronger leader would not let his happen - that is weak. Manuel has been excellent in his leadership. I challenge you to name an AD in the B1G off he top of your head that you would take over him.
Your response makes no sense. I purposefully never mentioned Warde because this schedule was set long before he took over as AD.
I question the wisdom of grouping teams. A random sampling is far more equitable in my view. And I feel like Canham, rather than Brandon or Martin, would have stood up against this.
Gotcha - I thought you were putting it on Warde. It was not clear who you were pinning your disappointment on, but I clearly missed your drift - my apologies.
I love playing Wisconsin every year, because it's a great place to travel to for games. Harbaugh's style matches up well against them, and I expect Michigan to win most of these games. They would have won this year without the Peters injury.
South America is the best place to travel to for games.
No dispute from me there...
We would have won if Peters didn't get hurt? Peters got hurt on a 3rd down pass that went incomplete, we punt the ball to Wisconsin and they promptly score to go up 21-10. What exactly have you seen from Peters that makes you think he would have led an 11 point comeback against an undefeated Wisconsin on the road?
Competition breeds success. Also looks great on the resume when Wisconsin is inevitably overrated in the polls every year.
This answer to this question should really be a "sticky." This question gets asked all the time.
Group 1 East: Michigan, OSU, PSU
Group 1 West: Iowa, Nebraska, Wisconsin.
Each team in each group plays one of the other group 1 teams 6 consecutive years. Rotate for the 6 years that follow, and the next 6 years.
The first cycle (2016-2021), the teams appear to have been paired off based on their strength in 2012 (the 2016 schedule was released in spring 2013):
OSU was 8-0 in B1G play in 2012, Michigan 6-2 in 2012, PSU 6-2 in 2012 (but w/ active NCAA sanctions).
Nebraska 7-1 in 2012, Wisconsin 4-4 in 2012, Iowa 2-6 in 2012.
Appreciate the elaboration.
It seems players would be better served by a format that made sure the Group 1 East players got home and homes with each of the West Group 1 teams over any 4 year period. Maybe I'm still adjusting to the giant conferences, but that seems a more quintessential B1G experience to me.
I like playing Wisconsin because I'm a fan of good matchups but would prefer to play them, say, every other year consistently rather than on/off cycling that lasts entire player careers.
So when they lose to us each year they will be finally exposed as an overrated fraud.
UM has lost their last few games at Wisconsin.
I kind of like playing the best teams. Better than playing Illinois all the time.
If you think about it, the only West teams we should play every year are Wisconsin, Nebraska and Minnesota.
All those other teams are stale bread.
No Iowa? I'm still salty about 2016. That was an undefeated UM team defeated by some last minute horrible officiating. When I feel salt like that, it makes me want to pound them even harder. Certainly not avoid.
UM has lost there last few games at Iowa Vladimir.
2008 vs Wisconsin was my first Michigan game, the most exciting game I have ever been to and the reason I am a Michigan fan. Never take them off the schedule!!
you're still a fan? y tho
The scheduling is a joke and has been for some time.
The idea was to pair teams to kind of give them a cross division rival and have them play constantly over a 6 period. The idea isn't terrible but I think 6 year rotations are too long. Theoretically we could get stuck with playing Illinois 6 years in a row...
The B1G is going back to an 8 game conference schedule in 2022. Preliminary discussions have us slotted against Minnesota frequently.
Are they talking about realigning the divisions?
The divisions need to be "realigned" into oblivion. Play a 10 game conference schedule with the top 8 schools from the previous year playing each other for 7 of those games. Eliminate the silly conference championship game. Go to a 16 team post season round.
^^This^^. Divisions in football make no sense - there are only 4 or 5 road games per season. Divisions make a lot of sense in other sports where where the cost of travel and the # of games is a greater concern.
Instead of "realignment", can't we just use a soccer method and relegate the worst team to the MAC?
sorry Rutgers . . .
Not thrilled about this, but if the SEC can do it and get two teams in, and the B1G gets frozen out for playing a harder schedule, go for it.
Honestly, as much as people talked about the playoff increasing the motive for scheduling more tough games, I've never seen it. I'm glad teams have tried to do it, but a team with an extra loss is a team that's got a serious handicap, no matter who the loss is to. Until a two-loss team jumps a one-loss team because the two-loss team lost to LSU or USC with that extra game, the incentive will remain to get through the season unscathed, and easy games are the way to do it.
I have confidence in our team this season, and I don't think our schedule should be an excuse to lose another three or four regular season games, but people who argue this do have one good point: Hard schedules tend to produce more losses. We play a lot of teams that are capable of beating us.
I guarantee you that the players are not complaining...at least the good ones...and the teams are not either. At this level, the good players and teams want to compete against the best.
I wish they were scheduled through 3031. I love playing Wisky. Their fans are typically great visitors and a boost to hang with in A2. Plus, I'd rather play the best team in the West as opposed to some chump
*Blast not boost. Thanks phone and thanks lack of editing option.
I don't mind having them on our schedule tbh.
If there is anything schedule-wise that's due for correction, it's balancing out our rivalry schedule home/away. Just total BS we have to play all three of them on the road this year.
To be the best, you must beat the best. Madison is the BEST B1G road venue, imo.
I love this. I'll miss Wisconsin when they're off our schedule.
Signed,
Class of '98 guy, married to Wisconsin grad
Well we didn't play them at all for five straight years from 2011-15 so......
Wisconsin multiple straight seasons?
Bring 'em on!
Why are you bitching about playing Wisconsin every year when we went 6 years without playing them before? In fact, why are you bitching at all? Some of this fanbase is insufferable with how much they bitch how "it's not fair, everyone's out to get us because they hate us".
Great! I'll be at each one. Madison is the best road game in the B1G.