Who would you reach out to first IF Jim leaves for NFL?
With speculation of Jim going back to the NFL yesterday afternoon and this morning...who would be your first call if Jim did leave for a job in the NFL? I think you would have to send a feeler to Sean Payton, Matt Rhule, Lane Kiffin, & Dave Aranda. Also internally have to look at Gattis as well.
Who else would be on your short list of candidates?
January 31st, 2022 at 10:45 AM ^
Bob Stoops
January 31st, 2022 at 11:11 AM ^
I'd rather have Mark, He's done a really good job at kentucky
January 31st, 2022 at 10:45 AM ^
Internal candidates are not really inspiring me. If Lane Kiffin is an option, I would take him in a heartbeat. I like Matt Campbell but Kiffin is as good of a coach but better recruiter.
January 31st, 2022 at 11:12 AM ^
Kiffin has never been at a job longer than 4 years, has no connection to the university or the midwest as a whole, is entirely dependent on recruiting success which would take a huge hit with Michigan recruiting restrictions, and is generally a huge ass hat
Why on God's green earth would you want a coach who has a track record of disaster everywhere he goes and would leave Michigan guaranteed within 4 years no matter how good or bad things got
January 31st, 2022 at 11:33 AM ^
This feels like a super outdated take. Kiffin's career has obviously been a wild ride, but he has absolutely been a different kind of person since his rehab stint at Bama. He has Ole Miss operating at the peak the program is capable of. First time they have ever (!) won 10 games in the regular season. He would turn this offensive personnel into a juggernaut.
He's not taking the job, so it's a moot point. But I'm imploring you to update your priors with him as a candidate. I would look to the way he responded to the OM vs TN incident this year, with fans trying to pelt him with golf balls, as evidence that he's not an "ass hat."
January 31st, 2022 at 11:39 AM ^
I would really like to see what Kiffin would do on offense with the players Michigan currently has on the roster. I think in the first year you'd see the single-season passing yard record broken.
January 31st, 2022 at 11:38 AM ^
Before Michigan , Jim Harbaugh never stayed longer than 4 years.. With what LSU, Texas A$m etc are doing does Ole miss really have a shot at keeping up? Michigan tasted success and has the talent on offense for Kiffin to work his magic.. Does he stay pass 4 years? who knows but I don't think the program takes a step back with Kiffin.
with that said , he's not coming to Michigan.
January 31st, 2022 at 10:45 AM ^
Fickell would be my #1.
Sends a clear message that the program’s ultimate focus is beating Ohio State. You can’t win the B1G and make the playoffs without that, hence the natural focus.
Hire Fickell and you break OSU’s brain a bit and add another layer of drama to an already supercharged rivalry. Plus you get the person that knows them the best and can recruit Ohio.
I don’t think it’s a particularly difficult decision.
January 31st, 2022 at 11:19 AM ^
You get it. Harbaugh knocked on greatness door multiple times only for it to get slammed in his face by OSU.
January 31st, 2022 at 8:38 PM ^
Fickell IS NOT COMING here. He will stay at UC. I don't believe money is a huge motivating factor for him at this time. From some of the stuff I've read his wife and 6 kids love the Cincinnati area, they have rolled out the red carpet for him, and they are getting ready to join the Big 12.
January 31st, 2022 at 10:45 AM ^
My therapist
January 31st, 2022 at 10:47 AM ^
Matt Entz head coach of the North Dakota State Bison . If we can add him as coach but keep most of the staff we have currently . He knows winning , he would just need to get acclimated to the B1G and the ways of Michigan . . Being a former DC and with us losing ours . Now would be a good time for him to come here .
January 31st, 2022 at 11:35 AM ^
Lol. What?
January 31st, 2022 at 10:50 AM ^
Dave Aranda, then Lane Kiffen. Those should be the only two calls you need to make. And I'm not sure I wouldn't reverse them...
If they turn you down, the tier 2 guys would be Rhule, Campbell, and Gattis.
Someone said Tom Herman can win 'with a fair chance'. Not thanks - he got as fair a chance at Texas as anyone had since Mack Brown was there. He didn't look good... And I wouldn't look at Fickell, because he would drop us like a hot potato as soon as anyone from OSU came calling. No thanks to that embarrassment...
January 31st, 2022 at 11:04 AM ^
You don’t go from Michigan to OSU…if he took the job here, what makes you think OSU would want him? That logic works the other way around too. Hire the best man for the job.
January 31st, 2022 at 1:50 PM ^
I’ll see if I can forward you Greg Mattison and Al Washington contact info. You can ask them.
January 31st, 2022 at 3:59 PM ^
Meant head coaches…assistants move around from school to school all the time.
January 31st, 2022 at 10:51 AM ^
Adam Stenavich
January 31st, 2022 at 10:52 AM ^
We need a national championship-winning coach loved by players. Someone who can compete with the SEC so we can win playoff games. That’s right. Ed Orgeron.
January 31st, 2022 at 10:56 AM ^
The Cajun Hoke would become The Coney Hoke.
January 31st, 2022 at 10:57 AM ^
I’ll take him as DL coach and recurring coordinator all day. If only.
January 31st, 2022 at 11:20 AM ^
I am ok with this IF he arrives in Ann Arbor and immediately adopts a nasally Midwest accent.
January 31st, 2022 at 11:36 AM ^
“Ah jeez, go blue”
January 31st, 2022 at 1:22 PM ^
This is it with a caveat. He only ever gets the title of interim coach.
January 31st, 2022 at 10:54 AM ^
I would not overthink this and promote Gattis as the next HC. You have a solid assistant coaching staff with momentum, you already have a CO-OC in Moore who can be promoted to OC, and you don't have to completely lose multiple players/coaches because a new HC is brought in with his own system and guys.
Sean Peyton is a ridiculous name to throw out. He's been in the NFL for years, why would he come to college football where the workload is even greater? Lane Kiffin is even more ridiculous, if our fan base couldn't accept Rich Rod then there's no way in fucking hell Lane Kiffin ever could.
I would love Dave Aranda or Matt Rhule if this was happening weeks ago when every other college was going through this. It's too late in the year to hire an outsider and Michigan is coming off the most successful season in 24 years.
Now is not the time to shake things up...just pick the best internal candidate which is likely Gattis and continue to build.
January 31st, 2022 at 11:16 AM ^
I'm with you exactly. Right now you have to keep Gattis, keep the staff together and win games with offense. Does anyone want to see Hart, Moore, Weiss, Clinkscale, Elston, or Bellamy leave? Pretty much all of those are considered home run hires. Installing new systems on D and O this offseason is going to kill the momentum from the playoff run. We know that recruiting is a year late, so we are hoping to reap rewards in the 2023 class. If you blow it up and go 3-9 or something, you're going to set the program back literally a decade.
Also with you on Aranda. He's basically the only guy I have above the Gattis line. Rhule I could see either way.
January 31st, 2022 at 11:53 AM ^
Question....Will Jim take some coaches with him? If yes , are you comfortable with Gattis hiring the new staff members?
January 31st, 2022 at 10:54 AM ^
Just roll with Gattis for the year unless you can get a home run hire this late in the off-season. He’s young and may appeal to recruits in a more relatable way than Harbaugh might (just going off age difference alone). At worst, he’s able to hold the fort down while a permanent coach is installed at a later date, and at best you have a good young HC who may be lightning in a bottle. On the bad side, he was here 3 years and only had one truly good offense in that time.
Joe Brady would be cool - but he hates recruiting apparently. Maybe that changes if he’s running a pretty big program. It could also be a good way for him as a stepping stone into NFL head coaching in a few years - which is where he probably ends up even with his flame out at Carolina.
Aranda may be available, but he’s a guy who has a kid going to Baylor right now or next year I believe - which may make it hard to leave. IIRC, he also said some stuff about really liking the culture/fit at a Christian school in the past - so he may be very satisfied at Baylor.
Fickell would be a good hire, and I could see him taking a serious look at the job - because at the end of the day, I think a few extra million dollars may soften his supposed anti-Michigan sentiment people think he has.
ISU/Boston College guys would be good backup hires. They may not get people hyped up, but would be solid on paper and could do great things.
January 31st, 2022 at 1:02 PM ^
Aranda is not leaving Baylor after the work he put in to change the culture - at least not in year three. Fickell is not coming here - UC is going to the Big 12, and they have rolled out the red carpet to get him to stay. I think he has his eye on OSU when Day leaves. Hafley from Boston College would be interesting, or Jim Leonhard from WI.
January 31st, 2022 at 10:55 AM ^
Fickell - unlikely he comes, but you gotta at least ask
Ruhle -- only quest with him is does/will he recruit as the rumor was one of the reasons to go to the NFL was to get away from recruiting
Campbell - bloom is off the rose for many, but I think he's a damn good coach considering his recruiting classes are in the high 40s and low 50s due to the limitations of ISU
Gattis -Just an unknown...he offers continuity...but so did Jimmy Lake. Not sure of what he can or cannot do
January 31st, 2022 at 10:55 AM ^
I've heard Scott Frost's mom is available. She hasn't been busy since Nebraska stopped winning championships in the 90's. Besides, she really doesn't want to watch her son's team find new ways to lose each week.
January 31st, 2022 at 11:21 AM ^
Tough but fair.
January 31st, 2022 at 10:55 AM ^
- Harbaugh
- Fickell
- Gattis
- Campbell
- Lane Kiffin
Honestly if Harbaugh leaves I'd throw the money truck at Fickell because I believe he's an outstanding coach and idgaf what anyone on this board says, he'd at least consider Michigan for the right price.
If he says no I'd promote Gattis. Guy just won the Broyles award, he's going to be a head coach, let's throw him into the fire and see what he can do.
January 31st, 2022 at 10:56 AM ^
Sean Payton hasn't coached college in 25 years. If he comes back to coaching, it sure as hell won't be to coach college. I don't think, anyway. I mean sure, if he was interested you take him and don't look back. But he won't be. You might as well call Mike Tomlin while you're at it.
I'd at least call Fickell and see if we could have one phone call that lasts more than five minutes without him laughing in Warde's face and telling him he will never coach this program. I'd peg him at no better than 5-10%, but you might as well at least try, especially since the two jobs he wants most are likely not coming open anytime soon. Maybe he feels spurned by OSU with them hiring Day instead of him.
Dave Aranda I'd probably call, too. Elite defensive mind, knows the Midwest and now has SEC and Texas recruiting ties so that would help. He may see Michigan as a clear upgrade over Baylor.
Michigan will never call Lane Kiffin. Ever. The old guard would be absolutely up in arms over it and light up a firestorm over how Michigan would have "lost its way" by hiring Kiffin, but the guy can score points and can probably field an offense that with the right guys could go blow for blow with OSU, and offense is how championships are won now anyway. I'd like to see it because it would be hilarious and a full George Costanza "Opposite Day" type of move for Michigan to make. Which is why they'll never do it. Michigan as an institution probably thinks its above hiring Lane Kiffin.
If any of these guys don't work out, then take your chances with Gattis and see what you have.
January 31st, 2022 at 12:23 PM ^
"Michigan as an institution probably thinks its above hiring Lane Kiffin."
Which is why Michigan is unlikely to hire any of the guys this board is pining for, other than Gattis. The personal growth Kiffen has demonstrated since his time in Saban's rehab camp is outstanding. The simple fact that geriatric blue hairs wouldn't even consider that, and that Michigan would allow them so much sway, is sad. Kiffen had Ole Miss - the University of Mississippi, a P5 football backwater at best - in the Top 10, that they finished #12 is astounding!! That guy would be a slam dunk...
Alas, unless Warde acts out of character we'll get a solid staffer as HC. The good news here? Warde has made some pretty good HC hires so far. But football is a different game.
January 31st, 2022 at 10:56 AM ^
Fickell
Aranda
Rhule
Campbell
I am a no on Sean Payton and Lane Kiffin. But I think it would be hard to hire one of the guys listed this late in the process. I would almost rather go interim coach for a year, and then do a full search during 2022 if you are reaching for someone who would not be a good fit.
January 31st, 2022 at 11:08 AM ^
This is the list. If we are being nuts, you add Kiffin towards the top, but that prob isn't happening. If you strike out on all of these, you move to Gattis and hope for the best.
January 31st, 2022 at 10:57 AM ^
Those of you who love recruiting and want Michigan to recruit with the likes of OSU, Bama, Clemson, etc...Matt Rhule is NOT the answer. He's on record about how he doesn't like to recruit like other schools and wants to focus on the players he has there and who want to be there from the get-go.
January 31st, 2022 at 10:59 AM ^
Fickell
Stoops
Payton
In that order! Make them say no before moving onto someone else.
January 31st, 2022 at 10:59 AM ^
Someone who would see UM as a destination job. Not too many of those around anymore, Saban at Bama, Dabo Clemson, Ferentz, Fitz, Paul Chryst maybe. So there are a few. An interview question about destination job would be in order. That would pare down the number of candidates.
Maybe Gattis would fit, seems like a college guy only and if successful, maybe he wouldn't go anywhere else, and he's young.
January 31st, 2022 at 11:01 AM ^
And if Gattis does well and then moves on to the NFL...it would be because he had success at Michigan which would mean Michigan could then promote from within again (maybe Mike Hart if he's still on staff, etc.).
January 31st, 2022 at 11:00 AM ^
BRING ME MATT CAMPBELL
January 31st, 2022 at 11:01 AM ^
Obligatory Campbell mention due to him being a midwestern guy who turned an irrelevant ISU program into a top 25 team and has a tendency of keeping games close that ISU doesn’t have a shot in. Campbell’s ISU squads haven’t beaten Iowa which is a concern but we forget his teams have upset good teams. Honestly, wouldn’t be mad with this.
Baker’s Oklahoma team beat that beat OSU also got knocked off by an ISU team with very little talent. That’s coaching right there. Also to the critics that say he had a bunch of players coming back forget Brock Purdy is terrible, he wishes he was as good as Cade. Campbell is in a situation where he’s one QB away from a Big 12 Championship.
I have heard Fickell’s name mentioned but doubt he’d be interested and I don’t think Fickell is better than Campbell. Cincinnati has had solid coaches and ten win seasons before Fickell. When has ISU ever been relevant or anywhere near remotely decent? Does Fickell have numbers against top 25 competition??
Realistically, Campbell is my first call but maybe there’s better names out there? I’m just not sure who would want the job.
January 31st, 2022 at 11:02 AM ^
Dang hadn't thought about it yet
January 31st, 2022 at 11:02 AM ^
Urban is available!
January 31st, 2022 at 11:04 AM ^
I’m sure that has been kicked around.
I’ll see myself out.
January 31st, 2022 at 11:03 AM ^
Gruden
Gattis
Mike Hart aka The Shit Talker Extraordinaire.
January 31st, 2022 at 11:59 AM ^
I like Gruden as a coach, but he killed himself. He’s gonna have to sit on the shelf for a few more years before taking the Ole Miss job. Isn’t that where all the coaches with immoral behavior go to resurrect their careers?
January 31st, 2022 at 12:49 PM ^
Ask Hugh Freeze….
January 31st, 2022 at 1:22 PM ^
You're thinking of Nick Saban's 'Coaching and Personality Rehabilitation Clinic', not Ole Miss. Ole Miss is just an SEC bottom feeder with a long history of nothing. But they have The Grove... That Kiffen has given them a few years of steadily-increasing football success without a sniff of scandal should be celebrated as a coach that has matured before our eyes. Get over his past transgressions, he's a better coach today than Gruden ever wanted to be.
Gruden is one of the dumber racists out there - the kind that isn't smart enough to not put his words on paper (virtual paper, but still paper).