Who are the candidates to replace Juwan next year?
Michigan is not making the tournament this year and the team looks as bad as ever. Who are the names to consider moving forward?
December 5th, 2023 at 11:25 PM ^
He'll get one more year.
December 5th, 2023 at 11:35 PM ^
This isn’t the one more year? I really want this to be the one more year at this point. Maybe we would be better off if he had been fired for the slap.
December 6th, 2023 at 8:47 AM ^
You can't fire the guy the year he's barely been on the bench for the first 9 games of the season due to heart surgery. You could just as easily argue the team is struggling right now because of Howard's absence (not that I'm arguing that, just that it could be said). At this point you have to give him one more year just out of basic fairness.
December 6th, 2023 at 8:56 AM ^
This is his roster and it is Juwans roster construction that is the problem.
December 6th, 2023 at 10:47 AM ^
There's a strong case to be made that admissions has hamstrung him quite a bit.
December 6th, 2023 at 1:28 PM ^
Sure, they haven't helped, but Juwan also hasn't seemingly figured out how to navigate around that or come up with a new strategy for adding talent. For better or worse it is his job to make it work and clearly he has failed in that over the last few years.
December 6th, 2023 at 9:01 AM ^
He's been on the bench basically since they started losing.
December 5th, 2023 at 11:39 PM ^
Give Juwan one more season and they could get relegated to the MAC
December 6th, 2023 at 8:54 AM ^
Why?!? The program is almost dead right now and badly in need of someone to shock it back to life. I love Juwan as a person but he ain’t the guy.
December 5th, 2023 at 11:26 PM ^
Warde will probably hang on to him and it will be even worse next year. Brian Ferentz syndrome
December 5th, 2023 at 11:29 PM ^
If there's one thing you can absolutely count on Warde to do, it's nothing.
December 6th, 2023 at 2:28 PM ^
Hey! That's unfair. He also bends over for the NCAA, the B1G, and apologizes a lot!
December 5th, 2023 at 11:28 PM ^
The only thing worse than a real coaching search is a hypothetical coaching search.
December 5th, 2023 at 11:29 PM ^
Okay BUT, hear me out...Tom Izzo
December 6th, 2023 at 1:35 AM ^
Lolz! +1
December 6th, 2023 at 1:14 PM ^
Or Urban Meyer.
December 5th, 2023 at 11:29 PM ^
Michigan is not serious about winning at basketball. Matter of fact they aren't serious about winning at football either but we just so happen to have a coach who is able to rise above the fuck shit.
Maybe Ono changes some things but right now we are still holding our purse strings to tight when it comes to $$$.
December 5th, 2023 at 11:36 PM ^
This is a real test for the “save us obi won” theory as it relates to Ono. There is no reason M basketball shouldn’t be a consistent tournament team and BIG contender year in and year out.
Unfortunately the downward trend is evident - let’s see how serious Ono is about making this an elite sporting institution
December 6th, 2023 at 10:03 AM ^
The FIRE HARBAUGH gang returneth!
December 6th, 2023 at 5:16 AM ^
I am not sure it is the university holding its purse strings. The coaches have very publicly went out looking for money and by all accounts came back with FAR less than hoped for. The imagined money cannon just doesn’t exist. Until the university is allowed to openly pay players from the athletic department budget, Michigan will have trouble competing.
December 6th, 2023 at 6:33 AM ^
Source?
December 6th, 2023 at 2:36 PM ^
I believe Sam Webb mentioned this on an MgoPodcast earlier in the season. Said they (collectives? can't remember) went on a road show to raise money and came back with less than anticipated.
December 6th, 2023 at 10:33 AM ^
“Holding our purse strings too tight”. You referring to NIL money? Or facilities? Or finding & paying great coaches? Or not hiring a Private Investigator? Or????? Just curious what you specifically think we are holding our purse strings too tight on.
December 6th, 2023 at 10:51 AM ^
NIL obviously
December 5th, 2023 at 11:29 PM ^
We were so spoiled with JB.
December 6th, 2023 at 12:15 AM ^
And yet as I recall there were still annual calls for his firing.
December 6th, 2023 at 7:23 AM ^
Underrated comment.
December 6th, 2023 at 8:02 AM ^
Same with Harbaugh until 2/3 of the way thru the 2021 season.
December 6th, 2023 at 9:51 AM ^
I'm pretty sure this picked up with any seriousness in only one instance:
Michigan had missed the tournament in 2015, barely made it in 2016 and were trending away from making it in 2017. In what felt like a must-win game, Michigan dropped to 4-6 in the Big Ten against a terrible Ohio State team at home, 70-66. After that game there were a lot of calls for Beilein to be fired. I remember feeling like it was probably over after the year was done because there was no way Michigan was making the tournament.
The team then went 13-3 the rest of the way, winning the Big Ten tournament and making the Sweet Sixteen.
I'm sure there were other instances of crazy people wanting him gone from the program, but that was the one time it seemed like even the level-headed portion of the fanbase was resigned to the fact that it was over.
December 6th, 2023 at 11:06 AM ^
coach B's team were always shaky AF in the early season and there were regularly contributors calling for his firing.... and then by mid to late January the team would be clicking and hitting on all cylinders, peaking at the right time...
as memory serves...
December 6th, 2023 at 12:14 PM ^
Your memory serves aces. There were fans on here that wanted JB fired after every game for his first 5 years. It was the "he cannot get any elite players and we have to rely on 2 and 3 stars guys he develops" crowd.
December 6th, 2023 at 11:11 AM ^
Love JB but JB exited at the right time in terms of the landscape. He was a developer of players. I can't imagine him kissing ass every year to the same players and re-recruiting them. Then having to go to the portal to find replacements. And showering kids with cash money to come. That seems completely unJB.
December 6th, 2023 at 1:49 PM ^
My only regret with Beilein was we didn't get him 10 years earlier.
December 5th, 2023 at 11:29 PM ^
Are you suggesting that you don't want to see more Dug M working alone in the low post?
December 5th, 2023 at 11:31 PM ^
I really thought Juwan Howard would be able to recruit at a high level year in and year out. We lost 4 contributors from last season and brought in 1 freshman. Nkamhoua has been inconsistent. Tray looks like a mid-major role player. Where is the talent?
December 5th, 2023 at 11:33 PM ^
On Arizona, Illinois, and Kansas
December 5th, 2023 at 11:35 PM ^
It's actually worse because even if we had the talent, we wouldn't have the coaching capable of using the talent. John B. knew how to coach and was able to maximize player potential. This staff somehow accomplishes the opposite of that. Recruiting's the least of our problems right now.
December 6th, 2023 at 2:24 PM ^
If memory serves, Coach Howard went 14-3 in Big 10 play in 2021. He definitely found a way to maximize that roster's talent.
December 5th, 2023 at 11:37 PM ^
That's the Michigan NIL program for you.
December 5th, 2023 at 11:46 PM ^
SEE: Caleb Love
December 5th, 2023 at 11:58 PM ^
Michigans NIL program sucks. But we still do have good croots coming into the bball program.
I do think Saddi needs to go. And Phil.
December 6th, 2023 at 6:07 AM ^
and Juwan!
December 6th, 2023 at 8:32 AM ^
Do you have a reason Saddi needs to go? Or are you just randomly pulling that out of your ass?
December 6th, 2023 at 9:46 AM ^
Saddi, Eisley, and Martelli are the Drevno, Pep, and Don Brown of Michigan basketball.
December 6th, 2023 at 10:14 AM ^
Do you even know for sure what each does? Since you're attributing juwans failures and ineptitude to them.
We never should've hired Howard. The shit was obvi but Fandom took over. Saddi was just fine under JB now he's brown?
Who most of this board had no idea was ass until it was too late. Now they're experts again. Shits goofy.
December 6th, 2023 at 7:49 AM ^
It is hard to do with our admissions and NIL policy. He tried to shore up this roster but it did not work out.
He needs a different strategy. Developing players is the way to go at UM and that seems to be not on track right now.
December 6th, 2023 at 10:07 AM ^
I think the problem is that Howard learned how to coach in the NBA. One thing that made Beilein such an amazing college coach was his focus on the fundamentals. Howard learned to coach with guys who were all the best college had to offer, and it seems he was ill prepared to develop players at this level and construct a resilient roster.
December 6th, 2023 at 12:45 PM ^
Also, it's a little known fact, but Beilein had never been an assistant coach throughout his career.
December 6th, 2023 at 11:50 AM ^
Juwan's recruiting is far from his problem. He's brought in tons of talent. It's getting production out of the talent and roster construction that is the issue. It's a huge issue.
This year's recruiting class was disappointing, but Nkamhoua and Love (pre admissions) were nice pulls.
December 5th, 2023 at 11:34 PM ^
Maybe we can get that Izzo guy. He's coached up his roster full of 4-5 star guys to a 4-4 record.