When dealing with a tyrant (Petitti Snowflake)

Submitted by Blue_Goose on November 17th, 2023 at 7:53 AM

We have all dealt with power hungry self aggrandizing individuals.  Petitti is no doubt among these types. After all, you don’t become the CEO of MLB and a conference commissioner by being an ignorant pushover. 
 

Petitti was clearly out of line, but he is the boss.  At the end of the day, we say he “can’t” suspend one individual on behalf of another under the guise of sportsmanship, but he just did.  We argue the case on precedent and integrity and a healthy future.  He argues it on power authority and the exploitation of poorly written bylaws. 
 

Petitti doesn’t capitulate, stares down Michigan’s threat and then says, “if you win this TRO I can just make a new ruling that will be more annoying and need a new TRO, more court cases…etc. OR you can accept this punishment and I’ll call off the dogs and maybe even advocate for you as your commissioner in the NCAA investigation”

I know these types of leaders and you do too. As much as we want to function as leaders and best, there are arrogant, boundary pushing assholes in leadership everywhere. This seems the most plausible scenario in my mind. 
 

I’m devastated and the idea of this asshat running our league has me furious. I am contemplating giving up college football(it is is supposed to be a fun escape) unless 〽️ makes a bold move to leave the league or have Petitti removed.  This after all would be the only options available if you want to function with integrity and your boss wants to function with impunity.

I will sit back and cheer for the student athlete who truly are the victims. I am still proud to be a Michigan Wolverine, I pray we truly did choose to focus on the championship and fight a more winnable and long-term battle to remove Petitte or remove ourselves. 
 

Until then GoBlue, Bet〽️

Ernis

November 17th, 2023 at 9:16 AM ^

In realistic terms, this is the best shot at a winning strategy and where M's administration dropped the ball completely. Equitable or rational treatment is not attainable through official means when bad faith actors like the B1G and NCAA hold all the formal levers of power. The way to push back would be to increase the cost/downside to those organizations by rallying support for M and cultivating condemnation for any punitive measures.

But by the time M mounted any kind of counter-offensive, they were already crucified in the court of public opinion. At this point, the ammo M has put out there hasn't stuck, despite the fact that it raises a number of critical questions from a rational perspective. Unfortunately, the majority of people aren't rational, and once they've committed to the belief that in-person scouting is some horrible evil, it's very unlikely they will change that belief even if factual evidence proves them wrong.

So while I agree, I also think the ship has sunk. M's best bet is to use lessons learned from this abject failure when confronting the NCAA at the conclusion of their investigation.

Ernis

November 17th, 2023 at 10:37 AM ^

Timing is everything. If rumors are to be believed, the information on OSU and others has already been raised to entities capable of enforcing the rules and they've opted not to. For public sentiment to press them to act, it has to stick, so exactly what that information is and how best it'll stick in the public mind, I'm not sure.

However, my hunch is we should drop a PR bomb on those assholes after we beat the shit out of them on the football field. Kick 'em while we're on top, then it won't look like whining/sour grapes. That's what the football-viewing public wants to see.

Slim Whitman

November 17th, 2023 at 8:17 AM ^

Reasonable take. They also avoided entrenching a bad precedent if the commissioner's authority to wield SDE were confirmed in court.

I have been able to outlast the management shitheads above me unless they were owners.  This clown shall pass, hopefully hoist on his own petard.

Hoek

November 17th, 2023 at 8:44 AM ^

I believe (hope) this isn’t how Jim wants. To go out. So I for sure see him signing a new contract the week of the OSU game! 

Ernis

November 17th, 2023 at 8:53 AM ^

I spent years dealing with, and being accountable to, a wholly unaccountable regulatory enforcement agency. It was a nightmare. I've worked at companies that were penalized for things made up out of whole cloth by the auditors--including an expensive fine based on a claim we proved was physically impossible due to the first law of thermodynamics--and the nature of the beast is, no matter what proof you have, it doesn't matter. No matter how absurd or lacking in supporting evidence their claims are, it doesn't matter. They fuck you at will.

Fighting back within the framework of their own rules is suicide. The B1G is not accountable to their own rules, clearly. They can act arbitrarily and capriciously.

If we didn't expect a good chance of relief from the courts, and having that relief available consistently, then dragging them into court was only going to "poke the bear" and not lead to good things, especially long term. Petty bureaucrats like that will hold grudges a long time. So, if we didn't expect a high probability of success, then we absolutely should take it on the chin and keep our heads down, try not to draw any attention to ourselves and get better at preventative defense (i.e. take a lesson from the SEC schools on how to cover your tracks). Brianna Barksdale wasn't as pissed at the police for arresting D'Angelo; she was primarily pissed at Avon and Stringer for not having a decoy car. Wisdom is knowing that rule mongers will use any rule against you and it's up to you to block them on every front.

Ultimately, this makes sense. The MGoLawyers presented good arguments about how ridiculous the B1G's case is, how it wouldn't fly in court, etc. But that view is through maize colored glasses. Severe skepticism around how much leverage the courts would be willing to exercise over the conference's internal governance was clearly the stronger bet in this case. Absent the courts, you are playing on the B1G's turf where they, like the NCAA, are judge-jury-executioner. It is what it is. Michigan's only viable option has always been to vote with their feet and GTFO--but that's not terribly realistic, either. At the end of the day, winning cures all and we're in a good position to keep it up. Go Blue or Go To Hell.

M2NASA

November 17th, 2023 at 9:28 AM ^

Who knows what really went down, but regardless of what did, the biggest long-term issue is that Pettiti has now found himself (and a source in the future of) intra-conference political capital in case he needs it, and that capital is at our expense.

You bet that if he gets himself into a bad spot and/or job in question, he has:

1) direct evidence for 13 of the 14 schools that he’ll take action on their behalf

2) a “well” that he can go to that will take it

This isn’t making something go away, this is kicking a can down the road, and inviting him to do it again when he needs to (or wants to maintain good faith with the general membership not named the University of Michigan).

Someone needs to get to editing out “we bow to no one” out of James Earl Jones’ intro.

As an aside, this is the same crap as I have with my other alma mater (Syracuse).  I’m sure that many of you have the narrative of SU basketball cheating.  A player works reffing basketball games during summer at the YMCA and gets paid $200, and a tutor corrects a footnote at the bottom of a player’s term paper and SU rolls over and takes it - multiple seasons of wins vacated, crippling scholarship losses - Same shit, different university.

I wish Michigan was like SU lacrosse in the early 90’s - a coach’s mom co-signs a car loan (no money changes hands) and the NCAA vacates a national title.  So SU refuses to give the trophy back, it goes into hiding (maybe it’s with the ‘98 MClub banner…), and they raise the banner anyway.  F the NCAA. https://www.syracuse.com/orangelacrosse/2015/05/syracuse_lacrosse_coach_john_desko_on_vacated_1990_title_we_felt_we_won_the_cham.html

And while we’re at it with Michigan, raise the f’ing banners.

LSA91

November 17th, 2023 at 9:36 AM ^

Every so often a conference goes crazy on penalties. The Pac-10 dropped like a sack of hammers on UW in 1993, when they didn't deserve it and on USC in 2010, when they arguably did. And they didn't leave until they could get more money somewhere else.

The biggest unanswered questions for Michigan are (1) how strong was our compliance program; (2) how much competitive advantage did we get; and (3) were other lower level staff aware of the scheme?

Hopefully the answer to 3 is no - if Michigan is aware of other staff who knew about this program and hasn't suspended them, the NCAA will kill us and we'll deserve them. But nobody other than Michigan and maybe the NCAA knows for sure, especially about 1.

Especially if our compliance program is bad, the *best* we could do by litigating was to get the initial punishment lifted, then get a much worse punishment next year. And if this is the only punishment we get, I think losing Harbaugh and even our legal signs program for the two biggest games of the season (and Maryland!) is in the range that a neutral person might say is fair.

thelomasbrowns

November 17th, 2023 at 9:57 AM ^

What I'm wondering is what leverage we had (in the short term anyway). Petitti had the support of most if not all of his other member institutions. Who's to say if the Harbaugh ban got overturned he wouldn't put in some more punitive measure like a post-season ban. He's shown he will act without due process on spurious grounds.  To me the settlement seems more like a cease-fire than Michigan admitting defeat.

Long term, I believe relationships have been permanently damaged, and I would not be surprised to see Michigan leave the conference (at least for football) as soon as possible. I also expect a Harbaugh extension to happen if he does not go to the NFL.

Romeo50

November 17th, 2023 at 10:07 AM ^

If Jim is onboard this would be easier to swallow but if CR is to be believed the Regents did an end run and the lack of support may force Jim out to the NFL due to this foundation of sand under him unless he is privy to a strategy of our eventual league withdrawal or a plan to force Little Titti's ouster.

I still feel the other B10 member animus in support of this has to be the threat of Jim's position on sharing revenue and league wide already laid plans for its expenditure at current planned for levels unhindered by a major reduction. Title IX fairness funding for facilities and such comes from this windfall doesn't it?