What makes for a good offensive coordinator in 2020?

Submitted by MeanJoe07 on November 24th, 2020 at 8:15 PM

From SI.com: After catching five passes for 105 yards on Saturday, Cornelius Johnson has the same amount of 100-yard receiving games as Nico Collins, Tarik Black and Donovan Peoples-Jones had in their Wolverine careers COMBINED.

With Haskins rushing for 111 yards in the game, it was the first time since 2016 that the Wolverines had a wide-out with over 105 receiving yards and a running back with over 105 rushing yards in the same game. SAD.

DISGUST.

Double-D

November 24th, 2020 at 8:23 PM ^

According to Urban Meyer a good OC runs concepts not plays.  Plays can be stopped.  Concepts provide the offense a platform to force the defense to choose what to stop while exposing themselves to a mismatch of some kind.

Keep them off balance.

And it doesn’t hurt to have a good QB 

Yooper

November 24th, 2020 at 10:12 PM ^

I must say I am tired of the idea that Harbaugh "insanely intervenes in [Gattis'] game plan" or other hot takes.  Insanely, really?  There is exactly no information, directly or indirectly, that Gattis is being hamstrung in doing his job.  If Gattis was being held back there would be leaks from Gattis or his agent, if for now other the reason than Gattis shifting/avoiding blame for what's going on.

I have been around here for over 10 years and the level of "commentary" on this board has consistently degraded to a level never before seen.  And that's saying a lot.  

Jordan2323

November 24th, 2020 at 11:02 PM ^

Harbaugh may or may not be interfering in Gattis' offense but this is only his 2nd year. What I see from the offense at many points in these games is what I've seen an awful lot of in 6 years. For some examples, the end of the half clock management debacles. The game plan against MSU, running into the middle of the line where they are at their best. The overtime periods against Rutgers, turtling after slinging it all over the field with McNamara.  The complete lack of any tempo being used. The consistent use of a FB and 2 TE's. These have Jim written all over them. I think Gattis calls the large majority of the plays but Harbaugh has his plays in that playbook as well.  It seems to be a twisted hybrid offense and I dont think Gattis is used to running that style. The only offense that seemed to run smoothly was with Fisch as OC and that may have been because Jim fully trusted him. 

Lakeyale13

November 24th, 2020 at 8:33 PM ^

A dude that actually can construct, develop and run his offense without a meddling coach insisting on running up the middle with a stacked box on 3rd and 8. 

UM85

November 24th, 2020 at 10:42 PM ^

While having a Vince Young, Trevor Lawrence, Cam Newton or similar sort of unicorn will make one an offensive genius, there might be 1 of those a year.  Give me a killer offensive line every year and you'll be just fine (see Wisconsin). With some effective recruiting at skill positions then mixed in on top of it and you'll be a top offensive genius in no time.

Michigan4Life

November 25th, 2020 at 1:14 AM ^

Bama has been moving away from it recently because Saban recognized that you no longer can win championship by holding teams to less than 17 points. You need to be able to score to win championships. He landed Tagoviloa brothers(granted Tualia transferred to Maryand) and Bryce Young who was the #1 QB in the country in 2020 class.

Blue Balls Afire

November 24th, 2020 at 8:46 PM ^

Scheming to the strengths of the players on the team and maximizing those strengths.  Borges turning Denard into a drop-back QB is example 1 of how not to be a good OC.  Urban and his OC's, hate to admit, maximized his players' talents--eg, passing more when he had Haskins and Cardale under center while JT Barrett and Braxton Miller ran more zone read option.  Seems obvious and simple.

SwitchbladeSam

November 24th, 2020 at 8:51 PM ^

Runs up the middle on 3rd and long, not taking shots down field, leaving your best qb on the bench, relentlessly doing the same thing over and over expecting different results

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PoopAndFarts

November 24th, 2020 at 8:53 PM ^

I used to be firmly in the Harbaugh-is-meddling camp, but the more I watch this team, I’m not so sure.

Part of me wonders if Gattis knows *plays* but struggles at calling the entire game. Harbaugh isn’t an idiot nor is this his first coaching rodeo - even with a different offense, I somehow am coming around to him trying to help a first time OC. 
 

The getting too cute in the red zone? I mean, how could a seasoned play caller make those gaffes? That’s stuff you call when playing Madden - or maybe when you’ve only had your own show for 1.5 seasons.

I could be way off but I am beginning to think Gattis sucks as a gameplan designer and play caller.

manhattan wolverine

November 24th, 2020 at 9:10 PM ^

Joe Brady though I doubt he'd make a lateral to college. Best bet is to get someone from a smaller school, who's doing well.

Phil Longo as well. Current OC for UNC, 4th in the nation for yards per game. Memphis, UCF and BYU OCs all deserve a look as well. No idea how they'd translate to bigger schools though. 

 

Michigan4Life

November 25th, 2020 at 1:59 AM ^

Joe Brady would be a HR hire for Michigan as a HC. If he wants to be a NFL coach and he likely won't get it after the season though he'll get interviews. Why not get his feet wet by coaching at Michigan and rebuild from there? If he is as good as people think he is, Michigan would be in great shape once he's ready to make a jump to the NFL and Michigan would be a far more attractive job.

brad

November 25th, 2020 at 12:01 AM ^

This is true to a point, but I would argue that if Michigan and Ohio State swapped coaching staffs in 2018 and 2019, Michigan wins both games.  It may start with elite athletes, but someone has to actively choose not to squander their talents.

Mongo

November 24th, 2020 at 9:51 PM ^

Harbaugh in charge is key.  He is our best OC.  He sucks as a CEO. Dude needs to coach his specialty which is offense.  Gattis has some good new concepts but when Jim re-inserts himself and takes over we win.  Plain and simple, Jim needs to set the game plan and call the plays.  He is the savior.  Damn the naysayers and get control of the situation Jimbo.  Go Blue !!!

jdraman

November 24th, 2020 at 11:29 PM ^

A scheme that correctly balances both. There was a blend of both against Rutgers. Multiple RPOs, some play-action pass, pin-pull runs with hot route tags, a few read-options and a SPEED OPTION to boot. You are seriously making me worried. 

uminks

November 24th, 2020 at 10:24 PM ^

I think it is opposite. Harbaugh runs the RB into the line all 3 downs. I think in the 2nd half Harbaugh let Gattis take over. What did he have to lose being down 17 to Rutgers. I know Harbaugh let Milton start and it was Gattis who wanted Cade to play.

brad

November 24th, 2020 at 11:22 PM ^

There was too much RPO with Cade for this to be true.  The answer to all these questions related to M's offense is that Milton is bad at running it and Cade is good at running it.  Milton's build and natural gifts make it tantalizing to try and wait out the growing pains, but Cade is servicable or better now.  

jdraman

November 24th, 2020 at 11:27 PM ^

I have responded to you in MULTIPLE threads now and given you ample evidence that what you say here is patently FALSE. There were numerous RPOs, read-options, zone-reads, and even a SPEED OPTION when CM took over the QB duties against Rutgers.

manhattan wolverine

November 24th, 2020 at 10:57 PM ^

Harbaugh as OC does enough to beat bad teams, but not enough to beat good teams. We'll run over the likes of Maryland but get blown out by Wisconsin, Florida and any half decent team that has our offense figured out. 

Scary part is that even without OSU, Harbaugh's offensive schemes still wouldn't win us the rest of the games on our schedule. MSU/Wisc/PSU/ND/Bowl Game is automatically 2+ losses with Jim's playcalling. 

jdraman

November 24th, 2020 at 11:25 PM ^

Why do you keep saying these things? What is this personal crusade of yours? Does Harbaugh have some dirt on you and is going to blackmail you unless you continuously shout that he's the true OC and the guy behind all the offensive success of this team? Like this is truly baffling.