What are you doing to stay sane (and healthy)

Submitted by Darker Blue on March 24th, 2020 at 7:01 PM

Hello Friends,

 

Just wondering what everyone is doing to keep themselves sane during these trying times.

I'm not a huge drinker but I have indulged quite a bit over the last few days. Irish coffees have become my go to.

Also been playing a lot of video games, playing board games with the kids, and thinking about maybe writing something for the first time in 10 years.

What are you cats doing?

MGoBoard
Recruiting
Covid-19
adult hobbies
family time
drugs?

Special Agent Utah

March 24th, 2020 at 10:53 PM ^

Never said those kinds of figures. 
 

Because, unlike you and a person who lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, I don’t just pull whatever figures out of my ass that are convenient to whatever narrative I want to tell. 
 

Don’t worry, just go and take a bunch of cholorquine and I’m sure you’ll be fine 

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Bluenin

March 24th, 2020 at 10:47 PM ^

You’re such a good little liberal!  Maybe if we can destroy the economy we can take down the big bad boogeyman Trump!  Sorry you’re still butthurt about your Bernie getting kicked to the curb again and you’re missing out on your free everything that he was promising you!

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Special Agent Utah

March 24th, 2020 at 10:51 PM ^

Ooooo Easy there princess. Touched a nerve didn’t I?

Not a Bernie fan, but thanks for playing. 
 

It is ironic though you’re trashing him and all his free stuff when a lot of people, who were formerly against government such hand outs, are now begging for them.

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jmblue

March 24th, 2020 at 10:04 PM ^

That's not the worst-case scenario.  In fact, it's the best-case scenario regarding those 53K confirmed cases - Don's making the assumption that every single active case will end in recovery, and that the existing deaths are all there will be from this population.  That won't actually be true as some current patients in critical condition will not end up surviving.

Now, it's true that this sample of 53K is not the total infected population, so there are two separate factors here at play (the unknown total number of infected vs. the unknown final death toll).  But the case fatality rate certainly could get worse.  Right now our hospitals are not yet stretched like they are expected to be in the coming weeks.

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drjaws

March 24th, 2020 at 10:30 PM ^

Incorrect.  Technically, it’s just the current scenario.  What I said was it is, to date, the worst case scenario.  It’s only the best case scenario, to date, if we increase the numerator (the dead) without increasing the number of known cases.  Follow me here:

Taking the number of the dead (which will likely increase) and dividing by the number of known cases (which will also likely increase) is just a snapshot in time of what is known.

you two are making the assumption that the number of current cases confirmed is the exact total number of cases currently existing.  

Independent of the fact deaths and cases will both go up, we know exactly how many died ... we know there are more actual cases than the 53k diagnosed.  Well not factually 100% know, but does anyone believe that all the people who had or have the virus in the US have been diagnosed?  You don’t think there aren’t .... right this very now .... tens of thousands with the virus who are undiagnosed and undocumented?  

the real number of deaths divided by the real number of current cases, at this moment in time, is a much smaller number than 1.3%.

that percent is calculated with a massive underestimation of the denominator, thus, it is the worst case scenario at this moment in time.

That being said, as I stated before, we don’t know much about this virus and, for all we know, in 10 years once all the data is calculated, the mortality rate could be 8%.

 

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Special Agent Utah

March 24th, 2020 at 10:47 PM ^

It’s pointless to argue with these people because they literally cannot understand anything beyond the present. 
 

A few weeks ago, when there were something like 50 cases and no deaths, they were all up in arms screaming “WHY ARE WE OVERREACTING LIKE THIS! LOOK AT HOW LOW THE NUMBERS ARE! IT’S NOT EVEN LIKE THE FLU!”

 

Well now that we’re up to 50,000 cases and climbing fast, they’ve switched their position to “Well the numbers are still very low percentage wise. No point in shutting down over it. Surely this is as high as it’ll go.”

 

Logic and facts are lost on them. 

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Bluenin

March 24th, 2020 at 11:03 PM ^

Did mommy and daddy give you your allowance this week, so you can get to gamestop to buy Madden while you are on your Staycation??  Hopefully GameStop has delivery so that you don’t have to go out in the big, bad, scary world!

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Bluenin

March 24th, 2020 at 11:09 PM ^

Well shit, no wonder you want this shutdown to go on infinitely, if I was still living at home with mom and dad taking care of me I’d want it to go on forever too!  Dude, I get it.  Ah well, it’s all good, time for bed!  

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snarling wolverine

March 24th, 2020 at 10:11 PM ^

Youre calculating the absolute worst case scenario to date in terms of mortality rates.  Worst case scenario it’s 13x worse than the flu

You're missing an important point: of the 54,808 cases reported (per worldometers), 53,655 are active.  We don't have an outcome yet for those patients.  775 have died and 378 have officially recovered, and we don't know what will happen with the rest.  So 13x is not in fact the worst-case scenario, it could get significantly worse than that.

(We knew that anyway, based on the experience of China, Italy and Iran.)

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drjaws

March 24th, 2020 at 8:28 PM ^

Reading all the MGoBlog threads in regards to the virus each evening, and all the subsequent name calling and vitriol, and laughing my ass off.  It’s almost as bad as the politics discussions.

Like politics, people discussing this virus have set-in-stone opinions they view (and then post) as if they are pure, unchallengeable fact.  Examples include “This is being underestimated and it will last for years” as well as the often seen “This will be over in a month, it’s barely worse than a flu.”

Literally no one knows.  Y’all purely speculating and stating it as a fact.  The smartest scientists on the planet are using models and simulations.  They literally don’t know, just have educated guesses.  For all we know, there are 70 million Americans walking around with covid who are asymptomatic, and who will never show symptoms.  It’s a NOVEL virus, meaning new.  The research on this thing is in its infancy and there is very little truly known about it.

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blueheron

March 24th, 2020 at 10:12 PM ^

Here's what I've yet to encounter: A solid-looking model that says we can have all this shit under control "by Easter."

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Your larger point isn't a bad one. But, I think the conspiracy theorists (little Alexes) and the ones who think we should release the hounds in a couple of weeks have been a little crazier than the people urging extended caution.

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One other thing: As I noted in another post here, I haven't seen any of the cautious types deny that the economy will be wrecked to some degree.

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snarling wolverine

March 24th, 2020 at 10:16 PM ^

Y’all purely speculating and stating it as a fact

We're engaging some speculation, yes, but we also have the factual examples of how this pandemic has occurred in other countries.  It's because of what happened in countries like China, Iran and Italy that we're taking these measures now.  We're not just doing it for the hell of it.  We didn't shut the country down for Ebola, Zika or swine flu.  

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drjaws

March 24th, 2020 at 10:39 PM ^

I know we are not doing for the hell of it.  Just pointing out that we dont know. 

in 10 years we could finally have all the data and epidemiologists could look back and see we could have a mortality rate of 0.5%.  Or one of 11%.  
 

there’s just not enough data for anyone to be stating opinions as if they’re fact.

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Blue_by_U

March 24th, 2020 at 10:24 PM ^

Drjaws this is the most common sense thing I've seen yet...we...don't...know. 

What we do have some idea about, it's a virus. It seems to Target 65+ age with complications harder than under 30 crowds...though again medically fragile seem to be vulnerable. 

High density populations are hit harder. Italy, China et Al have a lot of smokers and a lot of multi family multi generational living arrangements in high density areas. The virus seems to spread exponentially and young people are frequently asymptomatic/weak symptom carriers transferring to many others as social distancing is more of a hashtag phrase than followed guideline.

All the chicken little doomsday freaks are causing panic not prevention. All who say it's not a big deal are not taking it serious...it's head butting crazy

 

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jmblue

March 24th, 2020 at 10:34 PM ^

Italy, China et Al have a lot of smokers and a lot of multi family multi generational living arrangements in high density areas

In Wuhan the case fatality rate has been 5.8%.  In the rest of China it's been 0.7%.  The key variable isn't about lifestyle, it's the ability of the local health care system to handle the volume of patients.

None of this is to scare anyone.  People just need to understand what this is, and why it's important to make the right personal decisions now.  If we don't flatten the curve, we'll be like Wuhan.  If we do, we can be like the rest of China.  It's our choice.

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Greg McMurtry

March 24th, 2020 at 8:47 PM ^

Working on flooring project with the old man. Not sure now with the stay at home thing. Bought a bunch of beers before stay at home order too. Once the floor’s done I’ll move onto another project. Keeps me busy.

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xtramelanin

March 24th, 2020 at 9:05 PM ^

life for us is pretty close to normal, excepting that we aren't racing off to various sporting events for the kids.  farm life continues. homeschooling continues. i am home more now.   i would say one extra good thing is that all the kids are home too, including our 2 college kids.  there will be a time very soon when they won't be around so i am trying to savor this some.

two changes of note:  in addition to all our other activities we are usually walking a few miles every day, even if i've run, biked or lifted earlier in the day.  second one is that since the gym is closed i've been working out in the basement with the two oldest sons.  while the workout isn't as extensive in terms of equipment usage, the time with them is pretty cool.  and they are getting big.  i dig seeing their growth as young men. 

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xtramelanin

March 24th, 2020 at 9:29 PM ^

pretty sure i'll be fine.  i'm one of those 'don't ever get sick types' and despite my comments, i'm in reasonably good physical condition and, thankfully, without any other issues that might make me high risk.  i thought of you earlier today, wondering if you and your family might want to come up and visit the farm.  i guess with social distancing it'll have to wait, but maybe you would consider that in the months to come. 

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Blue_by_U

March 24th, 2020 at 11:56 PM ^

Sorry for the floor of replies. Google only allowed one photo per reply. Hope the weight room helps spark some ideas.

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BlueMan80

March 24th, 2020 at 9:08 PM ^

My wife is always full of great ideas.  I got roped into cleaning/painting the laundry room on Sat.  I admit it needed it, but I have been successfully dodging that for at least a year.  Today she decided that the bins full of Kennex pieces need to be sorted so she can put original kits together.  I’ve spent a good chunk of the afternoon sorting.  At least I got to take a nice long walk today.  It’s going to be nice tomorrow, so I may have to resort to yard work to get away from the piles of Kennex all over the floor.

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mi93

March 24th, 2020 at 9:08 PM ^

Rowing and walking the dog (nope, that's not code for anything that would be more fun) for exercise and fresh air.

Non-work from home hours I've been planning to turn more of my yard into garden space.  Less grass (the most irrigated crop in America) and less mowing.

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1VaBlue1

March 24th, 2020 at 9:12 PM ^

I took the chainsaw out for a spin today.  Cleared out a bunch of trash saplings, brush, and weeds that were clogging up the yard.  Also cleared a path about 3' wide on both sides of the fence because I hope to get it painted before the leaves fill in.  Time is running short!  I've got plenty of maintenance and improvements queued up, so that's what I'll be working on when I decide not to work.

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LabattBlue

March 24th, 2020 at 9:28 PM ^

Staying healthy, well fishing today, with sanitized night crawlers...bass fell for it.

On the real  side, nephew is ER Nurse doing trauma tent duty in Lansing, stressed over recycling masks/gowns all week. Said wore plastic rain ponchos for 3 days. Then heads home to pregnant wife.

No detoxification availability for ER employees. Not acceptable America.

 

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WesternWolverine96

March 24th, 2020 at 9:33 PM ^

Been doing an emergency tech transfer for a drug originally made  for a different indication,  but has shown helpful to treat pneumonia.  Of course I can't say the drug or the company.  But we hope to start making it for the US in two weeks using a process for one of our other drugs.  Surely helps to speed things up when you don't need full FDA approval.

Prior to becoming busy,  I became a day trader for a couple of weeks while playing a lot of ping pong with the kids.  It's been good for us... forgot what it was like to not have practices and weekend tournaments, and work and the constant grind of ordinary life.  My family has become closer from this.  I have been very fortunate and I know it.

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