Week 14 Polls & Ratings (AP #5, Coaches #6) Open Thread
Your Week 14 Thread for all polls, rankings, and computer ratings discussion. I will try to update with AP Poll when it is released later this afternoon.
FEI & F/+ update tomorrow.
AP Poll #5: http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll
Coaches Poll #6: http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/
F/+ #2: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/fplus
S&P+ #2: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaa
FEI #3: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/fei
Massey Ratings #5: http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings
Sagarin Ratings #3 (#3 in Predictor): http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/
ESPN FPI #3: http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings
SRS #3: http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2016-ratings.html
Michigan's team statistical profile:
Football Study Hall: http://www.footballstudyhall.com/pages/2016-michigan-advanced-statistical-profile
ESPN FPI: http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi?id=130&year=2016
Massey Ratings: http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=4741&s=286577
November 27th, 2016 at 2:22 PM ^
November 27th, 2016 at 2:28 PM ^
Although you could have an even more fired up OSU ready to take down #2 and undefeated UM in that scenario (was that even possible?)
Not against a one-loss conference champion, though...
November 27th, 2016 at 2:23 PM ^
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November 27th, 2016 at 2:45 PM ^
In a year like this one, if Michigan doesn't make the top 4, I'll be rooting for Washington and a good guy in Chris Petersen.
After yesterday's game, I told myself I'd take a break from football until next season.
And... I'm back.
November 27th, 2016 at 2:49 PM ^
Every team that is 1-4 only has one loss. But, 3 of them have to play another game. If Colorado beats Washington (whom UM beat), I'd have to assume UM gets the nod. The only other team I can see getting in ahead of UM is if Wiscy beats PSU soundly. Even then it's hard to imagine Wiscy goes ahead of UM. UM beat Wiscy and crushed PSU. That would leave Wiscy's only argument as a 17-9 win over Iowa, which hardly seems right to put them ahead of UM when UM lost to Iowa by one point, beat Wiscy head-to-head, and lost by a smaller margin to OSU. It would be one thing if Wiscy beat OSU, but they didn't. So, if UW looses I think UM has got a decent shot.
November 27th, 2016 at 2:59 PM ^
Michigan is a better team than Wisconsin.
But if Wisconsin wins the committee will take conference champ Wisconsin over 3rd in division Michigan.
Reality is that Michigan and OSU are both a bit better than Wisconsin, and all three are better than Penn State. But the gap between Michigan OSU and Wisconsin is not very big.
November 27th, 2016 at 3:06 PM ^
Hard to tell what the committee would do. I guess it's the question of what is more important, putting in a conferene winner or the better team given the body of work. I guess the same could be said if PSU wins the B1G, but I can't see them getting ahead of UM either. What if Clemson or Bama lose their conference title? Could Florida get in with 2 losses?
November 27th, 2016 at 3:41 PM ^
I believe
November 27th, 2016 at 3:24 PM ^
Colorado would have to beat Washington (not likely, but possible). Clemson would need to lose to VaTech for good measure, and The BTT game would need to be a total slopfest of a game where both teams look awful.
Even if all of this happens, you still need to get past the committee. The committee would then have to make a choice on whether they value conference championships or overall body of work more. And the indications thus far have been they want conference title winners over the perceived "better teams." Wisconsin or PSU would have the conference title but Michigan beat both of them, one of which was a total massacre.
If all of this breaks just right, maybe there's someone on the committee who thinks Michigan deserves a shot after going toe to toe on the road with the #2 team in the country and losing on a very questionable spot call. But I'd tell you to save your breath and not get your hopes up.
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November 27th, 2016 at 3:44 PM ^
I tend to agree with you, probably only because I prefer to assume things won't go in UM's favor. However, if I were a complete outsider with no horse in the race, I don't see how anyone could put in Wiscy or PSU over UM when they all have identical records (for whomever wins the B1G), yet UM beat both of them. I don't think the other teams really matter. It's really only between UW, B1G winner, and UM.
I don't see what it matters if your 2 losses were in conference or out of conference. Granted, I think it's important who you lose to and by how much, but not whether or not it's in or out of conference. That distinction is important for the conference championship conversation, but not the playoff conversation IMO. But, that's just me and not what I believe the committee will do. Only time will tell.
All that being said, I'd prefer not to go to the playoff because I think Bama and Clemson are both significantly better than us and don't want to see that game. We can obviously play with OSU and I'd love to see us play UW, but I think a bowl game against another opponent would be better of UM. I'd like to see us play Tennessee, Oklahoma, or Florida again. I don't want any part of Louisville or any other mobile QBs, or Dalvin Cook for that matter.
November 27th, 2016 at 3:20 PM ^
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November 27th, 2016 at 4:14 PM ^
It's not happening this year. If Washington loses then I think they will jump the PSU - Wisky winner or Colorado over us even though we beat all of them. Should have played better at Iowa.
November 27th, 2016 at 4:37 PM ^
if there is a god:
- colorado beats washington, barely
- penn state beats wiscy, barely
- clemson loses by a lot
michigan sneaks in at #4.
rematch with osu in the final game.
crushing win, 40-0.
a man can dream, can't he?
November 27th, 2016 at 4:58 PM ^
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November 27th, 2016 at 6:06 PM ^
Anybody who watched yesterday saw us outplay OSU, get hosed on two to four crucial calls, stop OSU to win the game, and could not possibly have felt we were not every bit as good as them, IN THEIR OWN HOUSE. F all of this for a lark.
November 27th, 2016 at 6:14 PM ^
November 27th, 2016 at 8:24 PM ^
I don't think there's a team in the country better than us other than Alabama. We had OSU beat in Columbus and have cleaned up 3 other teams in the top 10. If we could've had a shot at Bama, I think we'd have a shot in what would be a very low scoring game
November 28th, 2016 at 12:57 AM ^
Wow, we beat 3 of the top 9 AP teams and took a fourth to 2 OT (or won it in 2 OT if you prerfer).
That's damn impressive. Nobody can say that Harbaugh does not have us back.