Washington Snowflakes: The Offense
September 12th, 2021 at 8:50 AM ^
My answer to your question.....is this.....
Poor recruiting of offensive skill positions and poor coaching.
September 12th, 2021 at 2:15 PM ^
It did look like we were purposefully staying away from their two stud DBs.
Missing on wide open guys gave me hives (as did Cade keeping on the read option when the DE stayed home and Corum could have taken it to the house.)
September 11th, 2021 at 11:44 PM ^
They ran the ball really well!! That's all I got. Haha
September 11th, 2021 at 11:44 PM ^
Better than Matt Campbell.
September 11th, 2021 at 11:44 PM ^
Won’t beat anyone with a pulse.
September 11th, 2021 at 11:53 PM ^
2 and 0. I bet you said Washington was gonna win a few weeks ago. Root for another team because you aren’t a fan.
September 11th, 2021 at 11:59 PM ^
Some of us like to look at the bigger picture. Winning one game is fine but I want to win all the games. Right now I'm not convinced we can.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:08 AM ^
Quit watching then you won’t know and you can keep that hope. The rest of us will support the team win or lose. Celebrate the win or go to EW or RCMB.
September 12th, 2021 at 2:02 AM ^
Who said I don't support the team? I'm glad we won. I would just feel much more comfortable about this team if we won in a manner I felt would better transfer to other games this season.
September 12th, 2021 at 1:07 AM ^
Yeah before tonight I thought we were going 15-0 but now I'm very concerned.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:02 PM ^
And if they threw for 350 and ran for 350 and won 49-0, we still have people here saying they’re not convinced it means anything because they didn’t beat every other team on their schedule in one game last night.
No one hates Michigan like Michigan fans.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:06 AM ^
You said mean things so you’re not a fan lol.
I just want and expect better. The play calling in the first half was terrible but thankfully the Washington defense eventually got worn down in the second.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:18 AM ^
You said dumb things. Check your down votes.
We all expect better but take it 1 game at a time. Not have some dumb hot reaction.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:37 AM ^
Dumb or truthful ? Blind fans just want rainbows and lollipops and can’t see the passing game may be a bit concerning? If they can actually go into WI and win I’ll change my tune but I’m not expecting them to do that because that’s just not what this team does.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:49 AM ^
Ok first argument worth an upvote. Passing game is definitely worrisome. Would have liked for them to at least use some press down field. The shots of Gattis in the box were discouraging. On the other hand they didn’t need the passing game. Haskins and Blake played great. Cade played with what he he was given. He looked upset at times but he won so…
September 12th, 2021 at 1:44 AM ^
When they showed Gattis the first time he looked frustrated and the second time he looked like he was trying to solve a calc problem and had no idea what he was looking at.
Either way not the best look but maybe just bad timing for the booth cams.
September 12th, 2021 at 3:05 AM ^
I know you are but what am I?
nanny nanny boo boo!
boom roasted!
anerica FUCK YEAH!
September 12th, 2021 at 2:30 PM ^
Oh the irony with a name like that
September 11th, 2021 at 11:58 PM ^
Eh, 300+ yards of rushing against a top-end Pac-12 defense is not an easy thing to do, so you have to give them credit and perhaps think that this sort of performance, mixed in with some passing (bloody hell, throw the ball now and again, would you?) might allow them to do some damage later on in the season as well.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:01 AM ^
TOP end we haven't seen anything from them other than a loss to Montana and tonight us. No, we didnt need to pass but it probably would be wise to get some game time experience for our guys in the passing game.
September 12th, 2021 at 10:12 AM ^
Win the game.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:04 AM ^
Uggg 7/15 44yds passing is horrid and at the same time makes the run gam look even more dominant.
I get the frustration on the passing game and lets be honest. A solid passing game and this was over before the 3rd qtr starts. A solid passing attack and it’s a blow out win that was never close. There is a lot that this offense has to work on in the passing game. And it’s business and the difference of winning vs top teams and not.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:08 AM ^
I’ve been fooled before but not this year.
September 12th, 2021 at 9:49 AM ^
We all know that a QBs security blanket are his tight ends, ours have been blocking well but not catching the ball. Losing Bell also hurt the O. Schoonmaker and All have to make some plays over the middle and down the seam.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:09 AM ^
If we were on the other end of this rushing performance you'd comment about how impressive the other team's running attack was and say"why would they ever bother throwing the ball against when our run D was so pathetic?" Guess what? That's exactly what UW fans are saying right now. There was no reason to throw the ball tonight when we could run like we did. The strength of UWs defense is its two NFL caliber CBs, so why test them if you don't have to?
Bottom line, the coaches did a great job of "reading the room" and adapting to what worked best against this specific opponent; isn't that what we want to see our coaches do?
Also, call me old school but I thought the offense was a thing of beauty tonight!
September 12th, 2021 at 12:17 AM ^
The problem is its 1 less game on the schedule and 1 more where the passing game didnt advance in any form, the players got no experience. The timing between the QB and WR's wasnt strengthened nor was the line's pass blocking, blitz recognition and pick up or the qb's reading of defenses and scanning the field.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:28 AM ^
I understand what you are saying but Haskins and Corum are our best players on offense and UWs best players on D happened to be their CBs. So it seems smart to heavily utilize our best guys and marginalize their best guys. Would I have liked to see Cade throw a bit more? Sure, I guess. But I'm not going to focus on negatives when we won by three TDs and ran the ball as dominately as we did. I'm happy with this game and am choosing to enjoy it. If/when we lose a game because we can't throw the ball then that is the time to bitch and moan. But that time is not now.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:49 AM ^
you are insinuating that we should be practicing our passing offense against the best pass D we will face instead of playing to win the game and making said pass defense obsolete in a dominating victory. If we had chucked the ball 30+ times liked you hoped we would, there is a good chance we would have lost.
Play to your strengths, game to game. Don’t play to the opponent’s strengths. That’s what Harbaugh did, that’s actually what pretty much all NFL coaches do as well. The next 2 weeks should be fairly easy wins, and will be good chances to get those passing reps in, and to gel with receivers not named Ronnie Bell.
Eric All needs to become a security blanket tight end and a couple receivers need to develop a good rapport with Cade, of these 3 can happen it should more than make up for the absence of Ronnie as far as the receivers go.
Also, we might have the best RB tandem and one of the best run blocking o lines in the country.
September 12th, 2021 at 1:54 AM ^
You are so old school.
September 11th, 2021 at 11:44 PM ^
worse passer rating than against PSU last year
Last time passer rating was this bad? This game.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:11 AM ^
Except instead of getting blown out by Wisconsin we blew out Washington.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:32 AM ^
A game in which McNamara looked fantastic.
September 11th, 2021 at 11:45 PM ^
Haskins and Corum are studs. Offensive line was dominant. It doesn’t seem like they have much confidence in their receivers so they will just go with what works.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:08 AM ^
How can Michigan of all places have like 7 receivers and none of them are even close to what osu has?
September 12th, 2021 at 4:44 AM ^
OSU lost
September 11th, 2021 at 11:45 PM ^
I would have loved to see them throw the ball tonight but there was no reason to. Would have been foolish to stop running the ball when they couldn't stop the run!
September 11th, 2021 at 11:45 PM ^
The most vanilla win ever. Did we even open the playbook? Do we have WRs?
September 11th, 2021 at 11:45 PM ^
This is Harbaughs offense, it always has been and always will be. If youre okay with body blowing bad teams but not being able to keep up with the better ones, he's your guy. I just dont see being able to establish any passing game consistently if you dont even try against the easier part of the schedule.
We know we have good backs, damn good actually. Just wish we would use the run to open up the pass at some point, because we'll need it.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:07 AM ^
So when Haskins unprompted gave Gattis a compliment in the postgame on field interview for the game he called, he mistakenly called Gattis, Harbaugh.
Couple times in the first half I wanted them to open things up. But as the game went on, why the hell would they?
September 12th, 2021 at 12:24 AM ^
Because at some point they’ll need to pass to win a game. Like overall I agree if you can win a game win a game. Opening drive of the second half with no passes, awesome. But to not even attempt a 2 minute drill in a game you are only up 10-0 in at the end of the first half? That tells me it’s not just situational management but that our offense can’t do it. And that tells me this is going to be another year were we are incapable of beating any team worth a damn and will have a relatively empty 8 win year
September 12th, 2021 at 12:49 AM ^
So was it Jim Harbaugh's offense in 2016 when Michigan had some blow outs, like 78-0 over Rutgers, and 49-10 over Penn St?
September 12th, 2021 at 1:55 AM ^
No idea, but we didnt have as reliable of a run game back then, so we did kind of have to pass. The last two OCs of sort (Hamilton and Gattis) were both wide receiver coaches. You think their ideas of an offense are ground and pound? We do the same thing under Gattis as we did under Hamilton except we do it out of the shotgun. We still take forever and a day to get a play in.
September 12th, 2021 at 3:52 AM ^
Yeah, but you're assuming Pep Hamilton and Josh Gattis are good coaches. It's pretty clear Jedd Fisch was a great offensive and QB coach in 2015 and 2016. Nothing has been as clear on offense since.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:55 AM ^
2 nfl caliber corners is not the team to try and force a bunch of passes against. They coached to win, and we won. The next 2 weeks are easy, I think those would be better game options to develop the passing game with the absence of Ronnie Bell.
September 12th, 2021 at 1:19 AM ^
Define "better ones" because this board seemed to consider Washington pretty good until Michigan ran for 300+ yards on them. Even after the Montana loss the general assessment was that the defense was still a solid unit, and one of the 5 best we would see all year.
September 12th, 2021 at 5:25 AM ^
Yeah but you're one of those smart guys who thinks Matt Campbell should be our coach....
September 12th, 2021 at 12:20 PM ^
Washington's secondary most likely is the best secondary we will face all year. I was split some about tonight. Did I want to see more passing (and in particular effective passing game, not swing passers that UW was all over) yes, but in this game at this moment it was obvious that we could run the ball pretty much at will. Combined with our defense shutting down UW, running was the obvious choice.
I am just taking the view that the passing game will evolve now that we have pretty much established that we can run. Most team will now have to commit an 8th player to the box which will open up play action passing. That's what I want to see over the next 2 games.....
September 11th, 2021 at 11:45 PM ^
I’m not even sure what I’m feeling
September 11th, 2021 at 11:45 PM ^
They beat a P5 team by multiple scores. That’s good!
At the same time, they will need to throw the ball to win in the future and there are serious question marks there. It’s not just that they barely threw it, but their passing game looked mediocre whenever they did throw it. I think McNamara had a single completion that was more than 5 yards down the field, and that was to Corum. QB and WRs will need to be much more effective in the future to beat Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan State, and Ohio State.