lilpenny1316

November 26th, 2021 at 9:30 PM ^

Snow looks to be arriving earlier, possibly in the noon hour (at least according to the hourly forecast). Even though it may just be flurries, my guess is they're expecting the weather to impact things and suppress the score, as opposed to the Stroud rumors.

 

benzolamas

November 26th, 2021 at 9:33 PM ^

A good bet on this game is to bet twice.

Once that Ohio beats the spread and the other is on a Michigan win. The latter will make up for if the first is wrong.

aMaizenBlueinNoir

November 26th, 2021 at 10:20 PM ^

If I were to find out that OSU lost out on playing an impact player due to circumstances that will have no lasting future implications on that player, I would celebrate the victory as if said player had played. We never get those type of breaks. Hopefully Vegas does indeed know something. Regardless, interesting topic. 

greymarch

November 26th, 2021 at 11:02 PM ^

Weather forecast definitely getting worse with each passing hour for AA.

 

If AA is receiving full-blown snow at noon, expect the Vegas line to drop to OSU -6 just before game-time.

 

#GoBlue

Midukman

November 26th, 2021 at 11:03 PM ^

Snow moving in, weather channel say 1-3” with a 49% chance at noon. That’s all I can think of. I’m sure Ryan Day isn’t giving reports of what players have the squirts. 

Yeoman

November 26th, 2021 at 11:56 PM ^

I have two theories:

  1. Vegas lowered the line to lure money towards Michigan, sort of the way raising the price sometimes helps you sell more of your wine because it makes customers think the quality's better. "Hey, the Stroud rumors must be true, Vegas moved the line!" This is sometimes referred to as the Brandon/Hoke effect.
  2. Dan Tan's out of prison; maybe he laid a heavy bet.

Tecumseh

November 27th, 2021 at 8:23 AM ^

The #1 thing Vegas wants is a good number. They'll adjust as bets come in if needed, but they'd rather have a good number and bet against the public. That's why you'll hear things like "Vegas needs "X team" to win" or whatever. In an one-off game, it's not good business sense. With a high enough sample size -- which they obviously get -- they feel waaaaay better trusting their model and lines than the general public. 

The line drop doesn't really mean that much to me -- if it went to 7 that'd be a big deal. But, the open at 6 is what I really like. That's what they truly think. They can bump it up to 7.5 or 8.5 and still be safe from the smart money, so they're good.

Now, in 2019 Ohio State was only -9. So, overall...meh

jbuch002

November 27th, 2021 at 8:48 AM ^

BTW, the latest NWS Forecast (0650 EST) is predicting snow to start falling at Detroit Metropolitan Airport at 1500 EST. The trough that will be producing this snow, edging out the impact of a High Pressure center moving to the NE and out of MI, is arriving from WSW to ENE. It would not surprise me that we'll see some flakes with no accumulation around the middle to the end of the 3rd quarter.

Be mindful that the biggest impact on this game is the cold temperatures mostly in the low 30s. That it is mostly below freezing would dictate light and dry snow flurries instead of the wet stuff. 

Surfaces are still warm and light accumulation on the roads will melt and then freeze as temps drop post game. Driving could be messy. 

M Squared

November 27th, 2021 at 8:50 AM ^

I don't know if legalized sportsbetting has been, in the aggregate, a good or bad thing, but the one thing that it is eventually going to do is educate the public that Vegas is not in this to cap its profits at the level of the vig.  To oversimplify, as a logical matter, that is what must happen if you split the money: you cannot do better than the vig.  That's like making money through a savings account - certainty of return, but very low return.

I work on Wall Street.  Banks, hedge funds, private equity companies, venture funds, etc. are all looking to do better than savings account returns. In my opinion, Vegas has a much larger risk appetite than most, if not all, of the participants in the foregoing markets.

The primary driver of lines is not Vegas's fear of Joe Public betting $100 on a game.