UCLA Snowflakes

Submitted by TheCube on March 31st, 2021 at 12:11 AM

Hats off to the Bruins. Better team tonight won. 

One team has game-changer in Juzang. The other doesn't. 

Does Wagner leave for the NBA after "that?" 

Michigan is in dire need of a PG this offseason whether it's Zeb, Collins or a transfer. 

 

snowcrash

March 31st, 2021 at 12:19 AM ^

Eh, we didn't lose because of stupidity, overconfidence, or lack of effort. We just couldn't shoot. Couldn't shoot twos, couldn't shoot threes, couldn't shoot free throws. Sometimes you get a game like that.

DavidP814

March 31st, 2021 at 12:20 AM ^

If there is any estimate of “expected” points based on shot quality/location like there is expected goals in soccer, I would love to see that statistic. Michigan had to have had 15-20 pts more than UCLA. Michigan was missing layups, UCLA was making 18-20 foot contested jumpers. Both Smith and Wagner looked very tight tonight. They missed Livers leadership and presence on the floor tonight. Wagner is UM’s best player, but he’s still very young. I feel bad for him because without him they’re out in the 2nd round.
 

Also, clear this team was always missing a high level offensive player. There was no one like Juzeng, Cam Thomas, or even a guy like Dwayne Washington who can create offense on his own and hit a tough jumper late in the shot clock. When teams sag off Wagner, he can’t make them pay.

Still a great season, well beyond anyone’s expectations. It just sucks to lose a chance to go to the Final Four against a team that UM would beat 70-80% of the time.

njvictor

March 31st, 2021 at 12:31 AM ^

If there is any estimate of “expected” points based on shot quality/location like there is expected goals in soccer, I would love to see that statistic. Michigan had to have had 15-20 pts more than UCLA. Michigan was missing layups, UCLA was making 18-20 foot contested jumpers.

Completely agree, I think if Michigan played UCLA 10 times, Michigan wins 7 or 8 times, but this was one of those few games where we just didn't perform

TVG_2.0

March 31st, 2021 at 12:21 AM ^

Were UCLA the better team? Yes, but they were awful too. We just put forth one of the worst offensive performances I've ever seen. Not only couldn't we make a shoot, we forced things virtually every single time down the court. 

All things considered, I'll take a B1G title and an Elite Eight out of this group of players. Talent wise, I wouldn't rank this team in the top 4 of what we've had the last ten years. In basketball there's a general rule, if you have the best player on the court, you always have a chance. We saw that tonight. And unfortunately, there is no guy on this team who can consistently get a bucket. We've thrived all year off team play and having one or two guys a game get the buckets when needed. Tonight absolutely everyone was atrocious on offense.

Not sure who would advise Wagner to leave. Too many times guys with good physical abilities leave with an extremely unpolished game and get eaten alive at the next level. He won't be able to blow past guys in the NBA and without a more consistent jump shot, he'll be in serious trouble. Kind of reminds me of Iggy, and it hasn't worked out for him so far.

Michfan777

March 31st, 2021 at 12:21 AM ^

Wagner’s total meltdown was impressive. Truly Awe inspiring.

What it the hell were those plays. Taking multiple 3s when you need 1 and 2 points. Full retard kicked in hardcore either in the coaches or the players...maybe both.

UCLA will get ruined in their next game. 

HollywoodHokeHogan

March 31st, 2021 at 12:21 AM ^

Three things: 

1. Mike Smith played like shit.

2.  You really shouldn't be able to win as much as this time did playing through a traditional post.  There is a reason nobody does that anymore and that was part of what you saw tonight. 

3.  Michigan nearly never has the most talented player on the floor.  I think that will change with Howard's recruiting.



 

crg

March 31st, 2021 at 12:21 AM ^

Strongly disagree ucla is the "better team" - they did have a better night.

If they made this a multigame series, Michigan almost certainly wins.  Tonight, we were uncharacteristically cold (open looks were there, just not falling).

UMinSF

March 31st, 2021 at 1:26 AM ^

I don't even think UCLA was the better team tonight. We had 4 chances to win at the end - 4. 

Missed layups, turnovers, missed FT's - we gave away so many points tonight. Slightly better execution and we win.

Honestly, IMO this game felt like we lost more than UCLA won.

george11

March 31st, 2021 at 12:21 AM ^

1st, very proud of this team!

Don't understand Franz taking either of his last two 3pt shots. Get it down low in the paint. Everyone was ICE COLD. Damn, what could have been.

Nervous Bird

March 31st, 2021 at 12:21 AM ^

Coach Howard did not get Brown and Johns enough shots on offense. Johns was 4/5 and all in the 1st half. I don't get why he didn't get more looks in the 2nd half. Coach Howard also had Franz on the court after it was apparent to all that he just didn't have any game tonight. Plus, the over-reliance on feeding the post was a hinderance. I like Hunter, but he just couldn't score consistently enough. Coach Howard didn't read his team well tonight, and didn't adjust well, at all. This loss is on the coaching staff. They just had a bad game, it happens. Very good season, and I'll remember it as that. No shame in an Elite Eight appearance. 

Airsick Lowlander

March 31st, 2021 at 12:22 AM ^

Frustrating to have the year end against what remains, in my opinion, a thoroughly beatable UCLA squad. Not going to get an easier elite 8 opponent than that. Picked a bad game for everyone across the board to lay an egg, and yet despite that they could have come up with a W if they just hit free throws and/or made a couple layups. Wish Chaundee Brown had gotten a few more shots up as he’s about the only player that’s been able to hit a jumper the last two games. REALLY missed Livers’ jump shooting ability.

It was a heck of a year and I can’t wait for next season. It will be sad to see many of these players go.

Roy G. Biv

March 31st, 2021 at 12:22 AM ^

Missed open 3s all game.  Missed FTs all game.  Critical missed lay-ups late in the 2nd.  Give some credit to UCLA's D, but in this case the team has to look in the mirror to see where the problem was.  Very disappointing.  

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

March 31st, 2021 at 12:23 AM ^

Their star showed up and single handedly outplayed the top 3 UM stars.

UM looked over hyped the entire first half and couldn’t get a bucket late. That poor play sealed their fate.

Excellent season. Hope JH can build on it.

WalterWhite_88

March 31st, 2021 at 12:23 AM ^

I love Juwan, but I will never, ever understand drawing up a play for Wagner to take a deep 3 with 10 seconds left. He was god-awful today, nowhere close to making any jumpers, hasn't been close to making any 3s the last 2 games, and your play is to have him shoot an NBA 3? Why not draw a play up for someone who has actually been shooting it well, like Chaundee?? Really embarrassing that he air balled it. I don't know how he can end his college career with a turd like that. 

TVG_2.0

March 31st, 2021 at 12:28 AM ^

If I had to guess, Wagner took that on his own. Seemed to me like it was likely an pick n roll with Hunter for Wagner to either slash and draw a foul or dump it to Hunter for a foul or bucket. They sagged off him because they knew he was ice cold and dared him to shoot. Unfortunately, he took the bait.

DavidP814

March 31st, 2021 at 12:29 AM ^

My guess is that play down 1 with 20 seconds left was meant for Wagner to drive and dish to Dickinson or get a layup and go for the OREB if he missed. But Cronin is a good coach and probably told his guys to sag 5 feet off and let him shoot. Wagner has been turning down open 3s for most of the last 2 games. But as far off as UCLA played him, he really didn’t have any other choice.

Commie_High96

March 31st, 2021 at 12:45 AM ^

On an inbound you kinda have to send it to your 6’9” guy who is 40+ percent from three. There is no logical reason not to. Franz just didn’t hit them. You trust Johns over Franz to catch and shoot? Chandry is shorter, hunter can’t hit a deep shot, Eli missed his rebound. Smith whiffed a three and a layup. Not a lot of options.

btn

March 31st, 2021 at 12:23 AM ^

I really question the decision to play play small ball and just bang the paint all night, played into UCLA’s hands

Juwan did a great job this year but some of his last shot play call decisions have been not great

Still, got outplayed and outcoached and still should have won regardless....missed far too many easy shots down the stretch 

abertain

March 31st, 2021 at 12:23 AM ^

I get what people are saying, but Chaundee isn't a guy who can beat his guy off the dribble into a three. He's a catch and shoot guy. I think Smith's look on the first three was fine. I'm not sure why they sent Franz off the high screen. Johns' on a lob was definitely the first read and UCLA took it away with their center. However, sending Franz off that pick instead of Chaundee was ?. 

No coach is perfect. I also get why he put Franz at the top of the key getting that screen. He expected him to be able to attack off the screen or feed the corner. UCLA went so far under the screen that he shot the ball instead. I think most of the coaching checks out other than Franz as read 2 on the final play. 

TBH, the team kind of sucked tonight. They couldn't shoot, turned the ball over, and didn't play with a lot of energy in the first half. I look forward to having a couple of bucket getters next year, and I hope a plethora of shooters who just pull the trigger. I thought Michigan was at its best when they took the first open shot mid-season. They bogged down a bit later in the year. 

jdraman

March 31st, 2021 at 12:24 AM ^

Hats off to UCLA and to Mick Cronin.

This game was won in the margins, and without Livers, as has been repeated, this team's margin for error was basically zero. Throughout the second half, even when the lead was down to 3 or 4 points for the Bruins, it just felt insurmountable most times. Credit the pack-line defense and the individual efforts of Tyger Cambell and Jaime Jacquez for stopping plenty of dribble penetration. 

Some brutal final looks to end that game; really felt like they could have gone towards the rim and at least attempted to draw a foul. I thought the Smith look was a great shot with the very last shot, but it just didn't go down. 

Much will be made of the 5 missed free throws, and rightfully so, but the execution for Michigan just wasn't there. 

BuddhaBlue

March 31st, 2021 at 12:50 AM ^

Yup, from what I understand Cronin takes away what you like to do... look at our offense vs. one of our exemplary offensive games like vs. FSU. None of that happened. It makes for an ugly game, esp. when you don't have elite shooting (meaning people who can make contested shots a la J Juzang) or elite athleticism. We don't have that; we have great team basketball. I'm sure from the other side, Michigan did to them the same, took away what they usually do, how they usually play, but the difference is they had a Jonny Juzang, we don't, and that was the 2 point margin.

ppudge

March 31st, 2021 at 12:24 AM ^

If we played well and lost, it would still suck but I’d eventually tip my hat to the opponent and move on.  But this trash performance against a mediocre UCLA team, where we continually shot ourselves in the foot with missed layups, free throws, careless turnovers, and had our last 2 shots comes from guys who went a combined 2-for-17 from the field, is going to take a little longer to lose the pain.

rs207200

March 31st, 2021 at 12:25 AM ^

Man, Eli Brooks had a clear look at that put back, but he panicked! Acted like there was no time on the clock. 
 

also, absolutely no flow to the offense the whole game. Why the plan was to go to 1960s back to the basket offense makes no sense. 

Blue Balls Afire

March 31st, 2021 at 12:26 AM ^

Agree with what others have said. Livers was the sorely needed missing piece tonight. Reminded me of the Michigan women’s loss the other day.  Amy Dilk was the clear missing piece. Great season for both teams. Just couldn’t overcome key losses. 

SD Larry

March 31st, 2021 at 12:26 AM ^

Hats off to Juzang and scrappy UCLA yes.  Michigan had plenty of chances, open looks, put backs and lay ups tonight.  UCLA made some tough shots.  Still feel Michigan might have better team, though it matters not at this point, especially when you don't show it.  Looks like Gonzaga and Baylor in final imho. 

Qmatic

March 31st, 2021 at 12:27 AM ^

I will use this thread to express my frustrations (it was a great season and will after today think fondly of this team)

1. Franz was God awful. Lottery picks don’t airball a 3 down 1 in the waining seconds like he did. 

2. Dickinson will be unstoppable next year, but he just wasn’t there yet this year. When your go to guy is a one move back to the basket player in 2021, you’re gonna run into some trouble.

3. Mike Smith did good things for us, but under the bright lights, his limitations showed and he was no Trey, Walton, or Zavier. 

4. Juwan should have worked Chaundee more. He was the only ‘dawg’ we had on the floor who would be fearless taking a shot.

5. I’ll say it: we lost to a team that we shouldn’t have. LSU and FSU were far superior talent wise to this team. We can hang our hats on a successful season, but what ended our season was plying like shit to an inferior team.

B-Nut-GoBlue

March 31st, 2021 at 12:31 AM ^

I'll disagree about #3 forever to come.  Smith had/has limitations but he brought so much more than Simpson ever could with his 3pt shot.  I know we'll all remember hook shots and as great as they were they were a last resort to a stagnant offense due to limited 3pt threats that primarily included the pt guard himself.

Qmatic

March 31st, 2021 at 1:33 AM ^

Simpson outclassed Cassius and a much more talented MSU team twice (neither at Crisler) that season. And throughout  the tournament was steady and knew his role. Him and Trey led us to the summit with a chance to stand up top. I give Walton some honorable mention because while he only made it to the Sweet 16, he was the dog that really pulled this team up and put us in position to be the blue blood we’ve become. 

Ham

March 31st, 2021 at 12:27 AM ^

If you're coaching in the NBA and have LeBron fuckin' James out there, taking a 28-foot 3 down 1 isn't the worst shot or plan. It is when you're a college coach with college kids. Down 1 in the double bonus. Drive the fucking ball. Down 2 in the double bonus. Drive the fucking ball. Or at least create an open look for a guy that isn't missing everything. Instead have Smith run full speed down the court and then jump and shoot what looked like a floater from 3. I really hope Howard in the off-season realizes that just having your players chuck from 3 is not a good idea at the end of the game.