Tom Brady suspension reinstated

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On my phone, can't link. CNBC is reporting that an appeals court has reinstated Brady's ban. Another stupid ruling that just gets added to the sea of stupid people making stupid decisions.

BVB1

April 25th, 2016 at 11:44 AM ^

Absurd that the NFL continued to pursue this in light of the scientific evidence (or lackthereof in the NFL's case) discrediting their report. Looks like this is going to be drawn out further as this moves up to higher courts. 

Goggles Paisano

April 25th, 2016 at 2:52 PM ^

Brady's attorney was just on with Russillo and Kanell and of couse said basically nothing.  He did however say there is one more step called a Re-Hearing before the step of taking it to the Supreme Court.  He also did not comment on the next step but said they are in the process of weighing all options.  

Not sure why he even agreed to come on the radio.  They asked him if he talked to Brady today and he said "I can't comment on that".  Ok great....  

The whole thing is a total fucking waste of time and resources.  Should have never even been a story.  

BluePants

April 25th, 2016 at 9:25 PM ^

Brady can attempt to have it reheard en banc, or by the whole 2nd Circuit. This was the final level appeal "as of right," i.e., the last level of appeal to which the parties were entitled. Much as I hate Gooddell and the NFL, this is likely the right call as a matter of law. Blame the Federal Arbitration Act and all of the employment arbs that have chiseled away at your right to have a court, rather than a paid, industry hack rule on your case.

lilpenny1316

April 25th, 2016 at 12:50 PM ^

This is about Goodell's authority as NFL Commissioner.  Whether the balls were deflated or not was not what the court looked at here.  This is the important thing that people need to know before they argue about science, cold and balls.

 

"Our role is not to determine for ourselves whether Brady participated in a scheme to deflate footballs or whether the suspension imposed by the Commissioner should have been for three games or five games or none at all. Nor is it our role to second-guess the arbitrator's procedural rulings," Judge Barrington D. Parker wrote in the majority opinion. "Our obligation is limited to determining whether the arbitration proceedings and award met the minimum legal standards established by the Labor Management Relations Act."

BoFlex

April 25th, 2016 at 11:46 AM ^

charblue.

April 25th, 2016 at 3:18 PM ^

of the legal action in Northwestern players' attempt to establish the ability to organize for collective bargaining authority under Labor Relations Board regulations and the move being perceived as an attempt to get players paid and the implications of that for college sports in general.

Deflategate is just a battle of political will and the NFL seeking the last say in a pointless argument. It's ironic that Goodell was on the precipice of being dismissed after he botched a series of orior disciplinary cases, and only held onto to his job because of the way he keeps slicing the revenue pie for the owners in this Game of Thrones enterprise.

The NFL trades on the abiiity to draft players from a talent pool it doesn't pay to support and then complains when certain schools don't do a good enough job of development before getting it. This is how arrogant this league is. They've turned every aspect of the NFL media presentation into a revenue-producing opportunity, from division of games into various network deals to highlights that can only be viewed if prepaid and contracted for under certain time limits.

The NFL is just like all the other selfish corporate structures in this country rotting at the core with two-faced leadership that cares only about its public perception and how it can enrich those in charge.

Ghost of Hoke

April 25th, 2016 at 11:49 AM ^

What's ridiculous about this ruling is that it doesn't prove Brady did anything wrong. They just ruled that Goodell has the power to do such things. Back to square one.

mgolund

April 25th, 2016 at 12:00 PM ^

Arbitration agreements are powerful and enforceable. Courts typically don't (and can't) overturn even bad decisions if the aribtration agreement gave the arbitrator that power. 

Surveillance Doe

April 25th, 2016 at 12:01 PM ^

This is a key distinction that is sure to be missed by most people. The appellate court didn't review to see if the punishment was correct. The issue being reviewed was whether or not Goodell had the authority to punish. 

bluebyyou

April 25th, 2016 at 7:05 PM ^

If I were Brady, I might consider naming Goodell and the NFL as defendants in a defamation case and bring all the substantive evidence in to make my case.

I also wonder if the NFLPA feels strongly enought to threaten a strike if Brady's suspension is not overturned.  Other than a little money the owners spent to litigate deflategate, it hasn't impacted anyone's bottom line.  A strike would get the owners' attention in a real hurry.

 

ijohnb

April 25th, 2016 at 12:03 PM ^

is the proper ruling.  I get it, this entire things is a complete shit-show and it would likely be hard for the NFL to prove that Brady had actual knowledge that the air level was being lowered below the minimum allowable, but the original ruling was essentially "this doesn't seem fair to me."  Unfortunately when you are dealing with something that was collectively bargained or arbitrated it is what it is and the district court Judge abused his discretion.  The ruling set a debilitating precedent for Goodell and the ability of the NFL to punish players for competitive misdeeds and an appeal was absolutely necessary from their perspective.

Yes, the NFL is stupid.  Yes, this is the correct ruling. 

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Wolverine 73

April 25th, 2016 at 12:45 PM ^

The fundamental problem here is that the union agreed to give the commissioner such broad powers, making him both prosecutor and jury--oh, and he gets to pay witnesses to cook up theories to support him too.  The system is absurd, and one would hope the union addresses it in the next negotiations.  Power corrupts etc.

DJEasy12

April 25th, 2016 at 2:03 PM ^

If you're a lawyer, could you explain how the "proper notice" arguments were dealt with. The major point in Judge Berman's opinion is that even though Goodell has a lot of latitude to impose penalties, he simply can't ignore league precedent/policy and essentially make it up as he goes. The NFL already has equipment rules AND penalties that address equipment tampering. In fact, similar transgressions had been dealt with using fines: no draft pick loss, no suspensions. 

Furthermore, Berman shot down Goodell's justification for using steroid penalties on an equipment transgression. Essentially, as I understand it, even if Brady were guilty, Goodell failed to inform Brady, as an employee, the potential consequences of the transgression, given that there was no previous penalty that was as severe. It's similar to how if I commit a misdemeanor, and it's my first offense, the judge can't just sentence me to life in prison. 

ijohnb

April 25th, 2016 at 2:36 PM ^

that Brady provided inaccurate or incomplete information in the investigation and/or destroyed or tampered with requested evidence though.  It has been a while since I read the decision.

DJEasy12

April 25th, 2016 at 3:01 PM ^

The "destroying evidence" schtick was the NFL throwing a red herring to the public. Ted Wells gave conflicting testimony during the initial court proceedings. He stated that destroying the phone / not providing the phone took away Brady's testimony, but he told Brady during the Wells Report Investigation that he didn't need the phone. And Brady provided all relevant information from the phone to the investigators. Yes, he did destroy the phone AFTER providing the evidence. But, again, this was just used by the NFL as a PR smear. 

lilpenny1316

April 25th, 2016 at 11:52 AM ^

ESPN gets to talk about this crap for another four months before this decision is overturned right before the regular season.

The NFL loves it because ESPN will be talking about this for another four months.  A black eye for them means more attention and they love it.

lilpenny1316

April 25th, 2016 at 12:54 PM ^

The NFLPA and Brady can petition for a re-hearing in front of the same panel then the entire 2nd Circuit Court or take their appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, though either move is unlikely and would be a steep, costly and time-consuming climb. They would have to request a stay of Brady's suspension during an appeal.

The NFL has the option to implement the full suspension or attempt to reach a settlement and avoid further appeals.

I doubt the Patriots want to ruin another shot at the Super Bowl in what could be Brady's last season.  And I have a feeling Goodell would want this taken care of once and for all.  It may not be a total overruling, but maybe a 1-game or 2-game suspension.

grumbler

April 25th, 2016 at 2:59 PM ^

True.  I think that brady's only real hope for a compromise is to have the NFLPA wake the fuck up and insist on an impartial arbitration by a professional arbitration organization.  That the NFLPA allowed Roger Goodell to be the prosecutor and "arbitrator" in this case demonstrates how foolish they have been.  

Now, if they annouce that, in the next set of negotiations, they will demand arbitration from some arbitration group known to favor labor, they will be holding a gun to the NFL's head.  It would be suicide for the NFL to lock out the players because they want something so basic as the rule of law.  The NFL would be reduced to baragining for which arbitration service to use, and they'd neeed some goodwill among the players.  That's about the only way I could see the NFL ownership and front office to have a motive to not screw Brady over to the max.

That the whole case, investigation, and arbitration is a fraud isn't germaine.  The NFLPA signed up to be defrauded, and the courts will enforce their right to be defrauded.

ijohnb

April 25th, 2016 at 1:38 PM ^

it goes any further it will start to reflect on Brady a little bit.  Just sit the games out.  Nobody is going to liken this to a Pete Rose level scandal that taints his career.  Release a statement that says "I liked the footballs relatively deflated but certainly did not want to break the rules.  I am not an expert on PSI readings and was not carrying around any instrumentation to test the PSI readings before every snap.  It appears as though they did and that is unfortunate.  I will accept this suspension and move on."  Brady is part of the NFL and the NFL (Brady included) is starting to look really self important and not at all self reflective on this issue.  If he appeals it again or seeks leave to the Court(who will role their eyes) and this goes on, Brady runs the risk of history remembering him as the "deflate-gate" guy above all else.  He should just let it go, they will split the games 2-2 or could feasibly go 3-1 and he gets another month or rest before returning for world domination.