Tom Brady ranked NFL's most clutch QB
Bleacher Report article ranking their version of the top 25 "most clutch" quarterbacks in NFL history, based on clutch performance, whether it was:
- In the 4th quarter
- In the Playoffs
- Off the bench in a crisis, etc.
Interesting nostalgia read, and Tom takes the top slot with this opener:
"Tom Brady has led 10 game-winning drives in the playoffs, four more than any other quarterback in history and as many as John Elway and Dan Marino combined."
My favorite line.... "...the only people arguing this selection are a half-dozen dudes in faded Elway jerseys and some cranks typing CHEATRIOTS on every comment thread they can find"
Link: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2718337-nfl-nostalgia-ranking-histor…
Tom Brady is GOAT.
this was going to be my comment. Will you share?
Is ANYONE on this board surprised by this finding? Anyone? Bueller? Thought so.
was that a "Yeah, sure" or a "Yes, sir"?
Under two minutes to go and you need a TD to win he's not my first choice.
This guy is.
is that Johnny Utah?
or Shane Falco?
Would still put JM #2 to TB.
Everybody's entitled to their own opinion. Yours is just wrong.
son of a...You beat me to it. :)
But I found it interesting that they cited Montana's stats: 31 fourth quarter comebacks and 33 game winning drives but didnt list Brady's. Instead they listed his 10 game winning playoff drives and 63 post-season TD passes vs Montana's 45. And notwithstanding the different era's yielding different emphasis on passing, Montana threw his in 23 games vs Brady's 34 so his per game TD % iin the playoffs actually higher than Brady's. Also Brady threw 31 Int in those games vs Montana's 21 so his TD to interception ratio was lower.
Love Tom Brady but he's second place to Montana IMO. Sorry.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MontJo01/gamelog/post/
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BradTo00/gamelog/post/
...those SF teams were loaded with HOFers and a coach that I will always adore for Bill Walsh CFB/NCAA FB.
It's easier to comeback when you're throwing to Jerry Rice and John Taylor or handing off to Roger Craig behind an elite O-line. Brady didn't win a SB with the best skill position player he ever had (Randy Moss).
I think the stats are crazy to compare due to different eras, but I'm pretty sure that any Joe Montana, SB teams would be a heavy favorite against any of the NE SB teams, even the team that went 16-0.
Brady gets the nod in my book for doing his work with less heralded talent.
Not on offense they werent. There was one besides Montana - Jerry Rice - the same number that Brady will prolly end up with.
Taylor was a good #2 reciever but so were Brady's recievers. And as far as HC's go I dont think many people would put Walsh ahead of BB.
had Rice far longer than Brady had Moss
Yeah, but John Taylor essentially never drops a pass in the original Tecmo Super Bowl, so I think he is definitely better than any of TB's #2 receivers.
John Taylor went to multiple Pro Bowls. And I think that anyone old enough to remember the 80s would be able to put Walsh over Belichick in a heartbeat, me included. People to this day are still trying the West Coast Offense because of him. And his coaching tree is more impressive.
Holmgren, Sam Wyche, Seifert all came directly from Walsh. Belichick has Romeo Crennel, Eric Mangini and Josh McDaniels. All of them, flameouts.
You are absolutely right as JM's era, the free agency and player's ability to change teams and the salary cap were different and/or moot points. Thus, it was easier once you built a winner for teams to retain their players, whether they were HOFers or just very good players. In the current era, it is SO much harder to keep a good team intact. Finally, count the rings, count the rings!
I'm just messing with ya. I'm not quite old enough to have seen Montana play but have had the opportunity to see Brady for his entire career. I enjoy hearing and reading people go back on forth on these types of sports topics where there really is no correct answer.
Yes there is.
Tom Brady.
39 4th Quarter Comebacks and 50 game winning drives in the regular season
You are entitled to your own opinion.
I agree its close, but when you adjust for the talent around him on offense, the nod in my book goes to Brady. What would TB have done with guys like Rice, Clark, Craig, Rathman, Brent Jones, Russ Francis... (obviously not all on team at one time).
The 1989 and 1990 teams had all those dudes except Russ Francis, but you left off John Taylor. Those teams were stacked. Not to mention, Steve Young was the backup.
And Young to the team over and won 14 games in his second year 10 in his first, Lion fans would kill for that. Team loaded with HOF talent both sides of the ball and back to back HOF coaching to go along with it.
Who knew Edelman, Welker or the other 20 or so receivers that Brady has had not named Moss. He has had TE or has he made them better too?
This isn't taking away from Montana but a HOF line a HOF receiver corps and a HOF back field and a HOF defense to get the ball back to you makes it a little easier than a different team almost every other year. The only constant is Brady and his head coach
There are only two players on offense from those teams in the HOF.
"HOF Line" - Zero in NFL HOF
"HOF Reciever Corp" - Rice only (and Moss will make it for Pats)
"HOF Backfield" - Zero in NFL HOF
And Young from 85-89 (the Montana overlap years) only had significant playing time in 86-the year Montana was injured. Other than that he played in garbage time only - not a signficant participant to their success
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YounSt00.htm
Look at the list of HOF players that surrounded Montana and then check out the HOF players around Brady. I got to give it to Brady
http://www.49ers.com/team/history/hall-of-famers.html
There was exactly ONE surrounding Montana - Jerry Rice. Probably the same number that will surround Tom Brady - Randy Moss.
Rice, Clark, Craig, Haley, Cross, Francis, Bubba Parrish should be, Lott on D
How many years did Moss play with Brady vs. Rice and Montana???
All you need to know mGrowOld, is that in 14 years at SF and 2 years at KC, Montana went to 4 Super Bowls. In the same 16 year span, Brady has been to 7.
Winning in the big game means actually getting to it. Brady has been to the Super Bowl for 44% of his career. Compare that with Montana making it for 25% of his career. While that 25% is impressive on its own, it pales in comparison to the domination that Brady has held over getting to the Super Bowl for the last 16 years.
Brady also has 9 more playoff wins in the same span as Montana and only 2 more losses than Montana. His win percentage is much higher than Montana's. 25 playoff wins is a record that won't be touched for a very long time. It's just an unreal statistic for someone who is still active.
I get it mGrowOld - Montana was pretty awesome in his day. He was a great QB. He won at the highest level. What you are watching right now with Brady though, will be remembered for the rest of our lives because nobody will touch his Super Bowl and Playoff records for a very long time - if ever.
Also, what would you say if Brady got his 6th or even 7th Super Bowl ring? Would you still want Montana as your QB then?
Does anyone remember the night club Clutch Cargo's? I never went, but I remember the radio ads...
Really? I thought it was Ryan Leaf.....
Off-season articles are at their peak right now.
What HOF receiver has the most TDs and yards in the history of the NFL with 2 different QBs is it Welker, Branch, Edelman, or Rice. Huh
What HOF receiver has the most TDs and yards in the history of the NFL with 2 different QBs is it Welker, Branch, Edelman, or Rice. Huh
I give up. Apparently the NFL Hall of Fame's official site is in error and the place is litttered with 49ers from the 1980s. Every O lineman, Running back and WR who suited up for the niners is in there (I mean they must be according to everyone in this thread) and the guy in charge of updating their website forgot to list them.
I stand corrected, maybe it's just my hatred for all things Irish. The team not the people.
We'll go with pro bowlers instead, besides it's opinion just like Warrior fans saying this is the best team ever and Lakers and Celtics fans losing their minds
and I bet it approx a bazillion to alot less than a bazillion
I checked and, surprisingly, its close. Oh well, doesnt matter. Tiebreaker ... TB has Gisele and Montana wears Skechers.
When adjusted for age it's surprisingly close there too IMO
than Gisele?
Joe wins that discussion! She may not Gisele's checkbook, but for us in those years, The Schick Chick wins the who's hotter discussion all day long!
Brady will have only 1 potential HOF candidate teammate that he played with for an extended period, Gronk. Moss was really 1 year, set all the records, Brady missed year 2 and then Moss, well started turning back into Moss!