TMI no longer on YouTube?
I was scrolling through my Twitter feed and saw former friend of the site Ant ask what was going on with Sam Webb and Devin Gardner. So I decided to look and of course the only person with something to say was that one guy who must not be named. All I can figure out is it has something to do with Devin using the All-22 film on MMQB.
Has anyone seen any real information on this? TMI’s account has been pulled fromYouTube, that is true.
December 19th, 2021 at 6:58 PM ^
They've supposedly had some licensing issues. I think somebody (or somebodies) flagged them for using unlicensed video when it comes to their game breakdowns.
December 19th, 2021 at 7:00 PM ^
I wonder if that someone likes to Chat…or got disowned by the University. The way he’s strutting right now is literally sickening.
December 19th, 2021 at 7:15 PM ^
Who is this referring to? We're mostly big boys and big girls, we can handle the truth. No code talk required.
December 19th, 2021 at 7:31 PM ^
James Yoder, chatsports being the two clues above.
Yoder is a piece of garbage human being and the University was forced to release a statement making clear that he has no ties or contacts to the school. He’s notable for arguing with players and their parents on Twitter but has a weird group of fans who worship the ground he walks on because he passes along paid site info as his own to seem like an insider. Chatsports was his business endeavor that has quite a bit of controversy surrounding it.
He’s, very deservedly, not supposed to be mentioned or used as a source here.
December 19th, 2021 at 7:32 PM ^
James T Yoder. Owner/operator of Chat Sports. We are very much not supposed to say his name or reference his trash.
December 19th, 2021 at 8:45 PM ^
He also started this schtick while a high school kid posing as a male model which is hilariously on point for a kid who is full of shit.
December 20th, 2021 at 1:20 PM ^
Yoda le hi hu.
December 19th, 2021 at 7:25 PM ^
I'm not an IP expert, but wouldn't what they do fall under fair use given they are making a new product with the game tape?
December 19th, 2021 at 7:42 PM ^
I believe Stephen Osentoski had some of the same issues at one point. I guess it's not good enough just to show some video and talk over it.
December 20th, 2021 at 12:55 PM ^
Yeah, I've never received a channel strike on any of the channels I've uploaded my analysis to, but it's hit or miss on the copyright claim. Basketball highlight videos, more often than not, will get dinged, but football has usually went untouched.
My guess is that the use of the All-22 is what got somebody's feathers ruffled, plus the TMI analysis with Gardner gets a fair amount more attention than my personal analysis, just to be frank.
Gonna be interesting to watch, now, for that channel, since I'm guessing they'll now have to do some sort of licensing for any footage, All-22 or broadcast.
December 19th, 2021 at 8:38 PM ^
It certainly seems like fair use under the transformative principal (it's copyrighted material being used to create something new and different that does not compete with the original use) and the very limited use of copyrighted video by the show.
However, YouTube would almost certainly pull the program while investigating allegations of misuse. I wouldn't count on the disappearance to be permanent unless it persists.
December 19th, 2021 at 10:01 PM ^
there is also very little in the way of punishment for those who post take down notices without merit.
December 20th, 2021 at 8:11 AM ^
There would be zero in the way of punishment for a company that falsely claimed infringement on YouTube, other than reputational loss. YouTube is a private company and can take down videos for "TOS violations" without any recourse.
December 19th, 2021 at 7:00 PM ^
Goddamn that sucks. Sam has mentioned that he’s been getting copyright dings lately.
Frankly, not sure why it’s a problem when this here site hosts hundreds of clips of the broadcasts on YouTube for ufr. Maybe it’s because of the all 22 but if Devin is providing it then it seems like there’s a left hand and a right hand unaware of what the other is doing. Doubt Devin would risk his career by illicitly giving Sam footage that Fox doesn’t want him to share
December 19th, 2021 at 7:02 PM ^
I was going through some UFRs from earlier in the season, and there were a couple that had all the videos pulled.
December 19th, 2021 at 7:07 PM ^
UFR clips were moved to Gfycat for this reason. YouTube allows companies to make blanket automatic claims in clear violation of Fair Use law. YouTube recently changed some definitions to absolve themselves and put the legal exposure on their partners, but what they are doing is breaking the law, and those of us affected intend to prosecute them. Richard Hoeg did a Virtual Legality on it recently.
December 19th, 2021 at 7:13 PM ^
Thanks for the heads up Seth, I’ll look into that episode.
Sorry I erred on the UFR thing btw. And for what it’s worth I love the new format. The ability to easily slow down the clips is super helpful
December 20th, 2021 at 1:23 PM ^
Is virtual legality a higher form of the law?
December 19th, 2021 at 7:01 PM ^
Christ, I’ve always thought there was Too Much Information on YouTube.
December 19th, 2021 at 7:36 PM ^
Without reading literally anything, I would assume it's DMCA abuse. Because it's always DMCA abuse.
December 19th, 2021 at 7:55 PM ^
Maybe they don't want all that self scouting by Borges, Gardner, Miller, and Bedford out there for consumption by interested 3rd parties still on the schedule. Then again, don't know why that would crater the whole channel instead of just those particular videos.
December 19th, 2021 at 9:52 PM ^
We're working on it — AZS
December 19th, 2021 at 11:33 PM ^
As another data point, FWIW, all my parkinggod highlight reels get copyright-claimed within seconds of publishing, but the only practical effect to me is that I can't monetize them (big whoop, not why I'm doing them).
What I've heard from people who post full-game film on YT (even Unlisted or Private), is that they're copyright-claimed immediately and then blocked completely after a manual review, usually within 12-24 hours. And the weird thing (so I'm told) is that the cited sections are either commercials (due to the music, I would guess) or individual plays that are highlight-worthy.
December 20th, 2021 at 7:35 AM ^
Thanks for doing what you do Comrade -- an incredible service to the MGoCommune!
December 20th, 2021 at 7:38 AM ^
Love your highlights. Thanks.