There are no moral victories...

Submitted by BlueBalling on October 20th, 2019 at 2:01 PM

Say whatever you want but there are no moral victories when your 'savior coach' still can't win a meaningful game against a decent team in his 5th year.  Harbaugh is making $8 million a year and we are happy because we showed some improvement against Penn State?  

People, it's time to wake up.  Harbaugh cannot win against better opponents and often struggles to beat equal and lesser teams.  He is always focusing on the officials and what have you.  It is never his fault.  Michigan always got 'screwed'.

Look, we are 5-2.  If Army runs the ball twice from the 5yd line, we are 4-3 with ND, MSU, and OSU still to go.

This could so easily be a 6-6 season in Harbaughs 5th year.  Easily!

If that is ok with you, then fine.  However, don't try and sell this shit to everyone else.  

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RedRum

October 20th, 2019 at 3:40 PM ^

Do you believe in Pyrrhic victories?  If on the last drive we Successfully QB sneaked to win in overtime and every offensive member snaps their femur. You feel good about that win? It’s a season of games, not one game. 

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True Blue 9

October 20th, 2019 at 2:47 PM ^

I'm genuienly curious (no sarcasm with this at all), is it that you don't get caught up with wins and losses anymore or you've just accepted what we are, as a program, for the time being? I'm finding at almost 40, I've gotten better about accepting losses but I'm still incredibly unhappy with where we are in year 5. 

Having a hard time finding some balance and sanity over here. 

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ppudge

October 20th, 2019 at 3:03 PM ^

I’m in the same boat. Maybe it’s because I’m older, have a family and am more mature or maybe it’s that I have come to terms with the football program no longer being elite.  Probably a combination of both. Too many mediocre seasons over the last 15 years. Think about it - we’ve lost to our main rival 14 out of 15. And it’s always the last game so it always leaves a bad taste for the off-season. Hard to keep investing in the team when you’ve seen the same script for so long.

Losses used to ruin my whole weekend. Now I generally get over them in about an hour.

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Blueblood80

October 20th, 2019 at 3:20 PM ^

Second this.  Wifey won’t put up with my shit either.  Just a little bit ago, she saw (somewhere) that Michigan lost last night and she said something along the lines that she couldn’t even tell by my mood.  That means I’m winning lol.

Definitely can say the lows of losing and even the highs of winning are much much more short lived than in the past.

Its all about expectations, just like many things in life.  Do your best to go into it with no expectations and it will be just fine.  How?  I dunno.  But it can be done.

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I'mTheStig

October 20th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^

and she said something along the lines that she couldn’t even tell by my mood.  That means I’m winning lol.

Yep.

For the first time in my 40 years, I could give two shits about this program.  I'm more disenfranchised by what I see on the field than I was during Hoke and RR.  At least with Threet/Sheridan, we all knew the team would suck. This regime does less with more. 

Took the Mrs. out on date night last night.  We had a great time -- getting fall Saturdays back has been refreshing.

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KC Wolve

October 20th, 2019 at 4:26 PM ^

Yep, it’s also just not worth it. At some point I think I realized how stupid it was to have my day ruined or made by a game I have no control over. I actually enjoyed the shit out of the game last night. I was def disappointed, but seeing the offense actually work and the D playing pretty well was fun. Losing my mind and posting here about Don Brown putting a safety on KJ does nothing. Especially after 287 people have already posted the exact same thing. It does suck that this site allows people to post this bullshit over and over now though. I would have prob accepted and joined the nonsense years ago, but now I really miss the old days of good posts and reasonable discussion. 

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Murder Wolv

October 20th, 2019 at 3:15 PM ^

Agreed. I now watch the games on DVR about an hour after they start. For PSU, I had the feeling we would start slowly, so I checked the score to see if it was worth it. I watch PSU go up 21-0 and switched it off. I went on with my life.

I have the dubious honor of interacting with an OSU fan every day while walking my dog. I used to enjoy getting into it with him, but now I just shrug while he tries to rile me up. We are a decent team, but we aren't elite. I am coming to grips with that, though I'm not happy about it. I have never thought Harbaugh was a savior but he's an above average coach. Is he worth 8M? Beats me. Who cares.

 

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Erik_in_Dayton

October 20th, 2019 at 8:06 PM ^

It's a work in progress, but I try to focus on the positives (the team at least fought back last night, for example) and, to some extent, I accept where Michigan is as a program now. I understand people being frustrated with that acceptance, but it is simply a fact that my attitude on that front is irrelevant. I don't want Jim Harbaugh to settle for the way things are (and I'm confident he won't), but me being unhappy about it is pointless. It doesn't affect the team at all.

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DHughes5218

October 20th, 2019 at 8:22 PM ^

Well said. These games used to get me so worked up, especially after the National Championship, that winning was a relief and losing was devastating. I was a little high strung. Before I hit 40 I had to have open heart surgery and could no longer afford the stress. I had to quit watching, but at least it was during Hoke’s decline. Now, I’m thankful that I get to watch the games and I don’t get worked up like I used to. Of course I still overreact at times and I’m a little disappointed that the results haven’t been what I expected, but looking back the expectations were a little absurd. I thought with Harbaugh it would be Big Ten titles and playoffs nearly every year, but we’re not Alabama or Clemson. We’re not even OSU, but the results no longer change my mood or cause stress. One of these years we will beat MSU and OSU in the same season and it will be amazing. Until then, I won’t let it get me down.

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BlueBalling

October 20th, 2019 at 3:03 PM ^

I think I made it pretty clear.   Have ND, MSU, and OSU facing us.  Losing those games would equal five loses.  Again, if ARMY, freakin' ARMY, runs the ball twice from the five on us, we lose that game.  A six loss season was very conceivable.  A five loss season still is.

If you think paying a coach $8 million per year to struggle in the Big10 east and with ARMY is ok, good for you.  I personally think we are getting screwed.

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gsquared2123

October 20th, 2019 at 3:45 PM ^

Ifs and butts could go both ways. You can't pick and choose which ones are legitimate. Maybe the army game would have ended differently, maybe not. What if the refs didn't blow the whistle early in that game and our defense scored a touchdown?

What if we would have got an OPI call on penn states tight end instead of a touchdown.  There is the potential We could have been tied going for the winning field goal and not have Bell drop the tying touchdown.

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2manylincs

October 20th, 2019 at 3:48 PM ^

And if your grandmother had a dick shed be your grandfather.

Who cares about army?

You could play that game and say if 2 plays go different  in the psu game, its a 1 loss team still in it for everything that will define your life.

Its a 2 loss team that may win out, or may lose out. Enjoy the journey.

 

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