Tebow rant against CA bill allowing NCAA athletes to profit off of likeness
This has been making the rounds on the internet today.
My favorite quote from this
When I was at the University of Florida, I think my jersey was one of the top selling jerseys around the world. It was like Kobe, LeBron and I was right behind them and I didn't make a dollar from it. But nor did I want to. I knew going into college what it was all about.
That's a great story, Tim.
What about those college athletes whose parents didn't own a 44-acre farm?
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September 13th, 2019 at 2:55 PM ^
Isn't that how it normally works Jaws? I feel like it is a lot of if I didn't get it you shouldn't either.
September 13th, 2019 at 3:10 PM ^
I didn't get that impression at all when listening to his comments. In fact, I'm tempted to say that you didn't actually listen to it. The guy is passionate about keeping College football the way the most of it enjoy it and not turn it into an even more corrupt NFL minor league system.
September 13th, 2019 at 3:22 PM ^
How would letting kids earn money as opposed to accepting bags of cash in the dark make college football more corrupt?
September 13th, 2019 at 3:27 PM ^
Here we go, "bags of cash in the dark"...yeah, because that is the norm. This change would make that kind of thing the norm. It isn't good for college football, not unless you want college football to look like the NFL.
September 13th, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^
Wait, if you think kids aren’t already getting shady money all over the country then thanks for sharing that opinion because I know this is a worthless discussion. Go Blue!
September 13th, 2019 at 3:40 PM ^
So...then what is the debate about, kids are already getting the money, everyone is already getting paid...there is no problem.
The reality is that "some", as in, a very small fraction of schools...are illegally paying players. That doesn't mean that you pave the way for complete corruption and turn the NCAA system into a free-agent market for the highest bidder.
Shady money is one thing...something like this will create an opportunity for agents, boosters & SEC schools to go WAY beyond that.
September 13th, 2019 at 3:56 PM ^
Creating ways to legitimately compensate players is going to hurt the cheaters.
September 13th, 2019 at 4:29 PM ^
No, it isn't. It is going to hurt all of college football. There is already a league where players not only get paid, but hold out for the highest bidder...it's called the NFL. College football is popular (to many, preferred over the NFL) because it isn't the NFL.
September 13th, 2019 at 2:49 PM ^
This is America. You're allowed to get paid here.
September 13th, 2019 at 3:51 PM ^
Kind of surprising that the people who tend to yell they love America the loudest are also the loudest about Americans not getting paid for their work and image. Ironic.
September 13th, 2019 at 2:52 PM ^
Tebow has an opinion. I am somebody too who didn't need money while playing athletics in college because of my parents. My father was in a different situation. Pay the kids!!
September 13th, 2019 at 2:53 PM ^
second segment better.
September 13th, 2019 at 2:56 PM ^
Between this and Manny Diaz complaining about loyalty to Miami, I'm starting to wonder if there might be something in the water in Florida.
September 13th, 2019 at 4:01 PM ^
Uh, yeah man. It's Florida. They're weird.
September 13th, 2019 at 7:21 PM ^
Florida Man gonna Florida Man, man.
September 13th, 2019 at 2:58 PM ^
thoughts and prayers
September 13th, 2019 at 2:58 PM ^
Guy is entitled to his opinion. And I'm entitled to mine. Not everyone shares your views of giving everything you have to Jesus.
September 13th, 2019 at 3:00 PM ^
“I didn’t make money off my likeness, so you shouldn’t be able to make money off yours either.”
September 13th, 2019 at 3:03 PM ^
After actually watching the video - Tebow articulates his points well, and he clearly expresses his legitimate concerns with changing the paradigm. I respect his take and how he states it. I, like most of you, empathize with the many athletes who do not come from a stable, well-to-do household who have a unique opportunity to capitalize on their image rights as the faces of a billion dollar industry. How many athletes, due to injuries, misfortune, or whatever circumstance, missed the opportunity to make life-changing money in college while TV networks, administrators, and coaches all made millions off of their likeness? One is too many. This California bill presents a challenging change, with far-reaching effects that are impossible to mitigate (part of Tebow's strong thesis), but IMO, this change is the right thing to do. I admire Tim Tebow, but I respectfully disagree with him on this one.
September 13th, 2019 at 3:08 PM ^
Just throwing our friend Bill on here for some levity...
September 13th, 2019 at 3:30 PM ^
Have never seen that one, but I’m literally laughing out loud!
September 13th, 2019 at 3:55 PM ^
Dude, no politics!
September 13th, 2019 at 3:13 PM ^
"But nor did I want to." hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Surprised he wasn't struck down on the spot
September 13th, 2019 at 6:29 PM ^
Exactly that's the dumbest line. Why won't you want a piece of the action. Hell he could always donate it to a charity, I guess he'd rather the NCAA, school and clothing manufacturers keep all the money. Why take any and give it to the parents who raised you, or bank in case your knee gets blown out or some other injury prevents you from having the most overhyped garbage pro career ever.
September 13th, 2019 at 3:16 PM ^
He's not wrong here. Pretty much everything he said is true and would be true if this goes forward.
I think it could be done with strict rules and limits that are enforced.
Otherwise, it would be 'what school should I go to so I can make the most money'.
The Team, The Team, The Team.
September 13th, 2019 at 3:22 PM ^
"Otherwise, it would be 'what school should I go to so I can make the most money"
According to this board that is already the case for everyone who chooses a school other than Michigan.
September 13th, 2019 at 3:18 PM ^
Tim Tebow knows what it’s like to not be paid to play football.
September 13th, 2019 at 5:20 PM ^
This is the only comment in the entire thread that made me chuckle. Well done.
I mean, the "cut fullback" jokes were NOT without a basis in fact back in the day....
September 13th, 2019 at 3:27 PM ^
The only way to get back to “the way it used to be” is to cap coaching salaries, athletic directors, NCAA administrators etc, Olympic level facilities, trainers, tv deals, advertising revenue etc etc.
If they want amateurism, then pay coaches like they’re in charge of an amateur sport. Like a teacher’s salary.
But that’s not going to happen. Because it’s ludicrous. So let the players get what they can get.
September 13th, 2019 at 3:30 PM ^
That makes no sense. College football revenue pays for many of the other non-revenue sports. The free-market determines the salary for coaches. You want the best coach, you've got to pay up, because that coach has Bob Sugar on the line.
Coaches salaries and those of NCAA administrators have NOTHING to do with this.
September 13th, 2019 at 3:41 PM ^
Of course it does, it is in fact the whole point. If the adults wouldn't have sold out to such a massive degree we wouldn't be having this conversation. Do as I say not as I do almost never works.
September 13th, 2019 at 4:07 PM ^
I really struggle to understand this mentality. The coaches are performing their job, they aren't playing a sport under a scholarship. One has absolutely NOTHING to do with the other. As though, there is some magic salary that would be okay to accept and not have students asking, "why can't I get paid?"
News flash, these kids don't want to get paid, because the coaches are getting paid...they want to get paid, because they want to get paid. They see money being made, from the sport that they play; TV revenue, ticket sales, college merchandise sales, etc. That's what makes them want to get paid.
Maybe someone should just start a minor league for the NFL, give these kids another path where they could make money and not have to worry about violating their scholarship. That would be a win-win. Oh, that's right...no one would watch it and they wouldn't make any money doing that, because their "likeness" would be worth anything.
September 13th, 2019 at 4:34 PM ^
Everyone involved in college football is trying to squeeze every last nickel they can out of the arrangement, why do you want to hold the athletes, the youngest and least powerful, to a higher standard? Why should they give up money but no one else should? Why are they held to a higher standard than every other student?
September 13th, 2019 at 4:42 PM ^
“One has absolutely nothing to do with the other” lmao. How do you type that sentence?
The coaches are only getting paid millions of dollars to coach athletes that don’t get paid. The sport that the coaches make their loads of money off of is performed by these athletes. They’re both part of the labor that creates the entertainment but only one is paid. They both get “perks” but only one is paid. It’s no longer amateur when some are making millions and others can’t even make a few thousand off their own image.
September 13th, 2019 at 9:38 PM ^
Very easily...I type that sentence very easily.
September 13th, 2019 at 3:44 PM ^
Ah so you believe in the free market right up until the point of paying players. Convenient.
September 13th, 2019 at 4:23 PM ^
It's not actually convenient at all, it's part of accepting a scholarship. You don't want those restrictions, don't accept the scholarship. Go play for money under other free market outlets.
September 13th, 2019 at 3:29 PM ^
I know this is not a popular opinion, but he does make a point about how this system could be abused.
Head Coach to Recruit: "Come to State University. Our boosters will gladly pay you $1k per autograph."
I would like players to profit off their likeness, but would love to hear suggestions on how to prevent college football from getting any dirtier
September 13th, 2019 at 3:58 PM ^
Decriminalize it.
Attention Michigan fans: Allowing college players to make money in any and every way possible helps us.
If you don't care about that part then just care about the idea of capitalism.
If you don't care about that part then, well, I guess we will just continue to disagree.
September 13th, 2019 at 4:08 PM ^
Yeah, we will continue to disagree and this has nothing to do with capitalism.
September 13th, 2019 at 5:30 PM ^
How the hell does getting paid what you’re worth via memorabilia autographs etc not capitalism?
If anything the current model is communism since all the profits off the backs of athletes go to conferences and the NCAA.
September 13th, 2019 at 6:53 PM ^
Your first sentence is quite the trip. Show me a system in big-time college sports that is not rampant with abuse.
September 13th, 2019 at 3:42 PM ^
Sorry Tim, that's 'tarded. You should have the right to make money off your image regardless of whether you are in college or not. You shouldn't be penalized because you are a student particularly when businesses like EA Sports are making so much at your expense. Slavery is over, son!
September 13th, 2019 at 4:11 PM ^
Actually, they have the right to make money off their image, but the first dollar that they make violates the scholarship that they accepted to play football for.
Slavery...a double-down dose of ignorance.
September 13th, 2019 at 5:11 PM ^
You sir are Misinformed. The cover athlete on any EA NCAAbased video game is no longer a student and has forgone eligibility, those athletes are paid to endorse the game. Try again son’
September 13th, 2019 at 3:44 PM ^
If he didn't want money from jersey sales and his likeness, he could have donated it to his church or something.
September 13th, 2019 at 4:31 PM ^
So making an anti-individualism argument with an individual anecdote. Got it.
September 13th, 2019 at 5:08 PM ^
If players start getting paid then schools should be allowed to drop non money making sports at will including women’s if they are on the list can’t have it both ways folks.
September 13th, 2019 at 8:34 PM ^
Schools drop sports all the time