September 1st, 2023 at 8:10 AM ^
Jesus. So this means FSU and Clemson will try to jump ship to the SEC , and Big Ten will grab UNC.
And then SEC will grab another team, so then the Big Ten will also grab another team... It just never ends
September 1st, 2023 at 8:12 AM ^
Yep, which will allow ESPN to renegotiate its deal with the ACC at a much lower amount. Really doesn't seem like a smart move by the ACC.
September 1st, 2023 at 9:38 AM ^
The tweet says that the ACC added these schools to block ESPN from renegotiating when FSU and Clemson leave.
September 1st, 2023 at 9:45 AM ^
UNC leaving would put them below 15. I wouldn't feel good about holding on to them or even Virginia.
September 1st, 2023 at 12:05 PM ^
They must be looking for one more then.
September 2nd, 2023 at 12:19 AM ^
I'm camping up on a mountain in the great state of Washington, and I gotta say its ridiculous that the B1G didn't pick up Stanford & Cal. The west coast needs the equal representation that the other 4 teams can provide. F the breaking up of the Pac12. F you Scott/Kliavkoff.
September 1st, 2023 at 11:31 AM ^
The compensation equation is about the size of the various fanbases that will watch the broadcasts. Obviously Stanford and Cal are great academic institutions but that is not what conference realignment is about; it is about money for institutions being able to pay athletes.
At some point, I wonder when conferences start looking at individual schools to see what they bring to the table and make adjustments for revenue-generating sports.
September 1st, 2023 at 8:13 AM ^
UNC is not happy. It seems FSU, Clem, UNC and NC St were the hold outs and obvly NC St flipped.
I'd make a call to UNC and UVa fast if I were the B10
September 1st, 2023 at 8:23 AM ^
I know football drives the bus, but can you seriously break up UNC/Duke, the rivalry that defines regular-season college basketball?
September 1st, 2023 at 9:16 AM ^
You can do anything, apparently. You don’t even need to have a reason.
The whole dang thing makes no sense.
September 1st, 2023 at 9:36 AM ^
Welcome to Thunder Dome!
September 1st, 2023 at 12:30 PM ^
Something about two teams enter, one team leaves?
September 1st, 2023 at 12:52 PM ^
Two conferences enter, one super-conference leaves.
September 1st, 2023 at 11:37 AM ^
You have to look at what is going on in the context of what the SC decision did to the revenue-generating sports landscape and whether an institution helps the conference's bottom line.
Nothing prevents the B1G or a single university from being part of a consortium like the Big Ten cancer consortium but that is separate and apart from the sports revenue model.
September 1st, 2023 at 9:27 AM ^
The Big East was possibly the best hoops conference from the 80s until it met its demise because of football reasons.
Nothing is sacred in college sports except money.
September 1st, 2023 at 3:41 PM ^
Unfortunately, this goes well beyond college sports.
September 1st, 2023 at 9:48 AM ^
And this is my issue with some of this expansion. If UNC wants to leave for football that's cool but the basketball program should be able to negotiate to stay in ACC because those rivalries with Duke and NC State matter in basketball.
September 1st, 2023 at 10:29 AM ^
Perhaps NC state, Wake, and Duke were willing to gamble that that would be enough to keep UNC in the fold. Time will tell if they are correct.
September 1st, 2023 at 10:20 AM ^
Nothing makes sense anymore. They did it in football....Oklahoma / Texas says hold my beer...
September 1st, 2023 at 3:31 PM ^
Keep in mind that Oklahoma were a HUGE conference rivalry in college, and whoop there it is gone.
September 1st, 2023 at 10:43 AM ^
Can you seriously put two Pacific coast teams in the Atlantic Coastal Conference?
September 1st, 2023 at 10:50 AM ^
Just as sure as you can add 2 Atlantic coast teams and 4 Pacific Coast teams to the BIG. All of this makes perfect sense! Trust the process.
September 1st, 2023 at 12:23 PM ^
Why not? Oklahoma-Nebraska was broken up. Texas-Texas A&M was broken up, until they were reunited.
UNC/Duke can just play a huge non-conference game every year.
P.S. Fuck Duke.
September 1st, 2023 at 3:32 PM ^
Sorry, didn't see your Okla / Nebr comment till now, just posted the same. TBH, Texas / A&M is more akin to Michigan and 'lil brother, A&M has only recently been a top 10ish team.
September 1st, 2023 at 8:23 AM ^
UNC's not happy with the lengthy travel and associated costs. Maybe Big Ten money would mollify them, but they'd mostly look like assholes.
September 1st, 2023 at 8:29 AM ^
But now the travel would be approx. even: PSU, UMd, RU, UVa are close. Obvly the new B10 left coast 4 balance SMU and the NoCal schools (ish, anyway). When FSU and Clem bolt for the SEC, this will be a net loss. Adding these 3 schools gets a few more million in the next few years, but as soon as FSU runs numbers that they can swing, they will bolt and so will Clemson.
September 1st, 2023 at 8:30 AM ^
I say piss on UNC. Theyre crying about travel when their basketball team always played the ACC tournament in their own back yard every single year? I guess they still do? Let them travel for once.
September 1st, 2023 at 8:56 AM ^
More time for their academic tutors to polish the players' essays and take home exams while ridin' da bus.
September 1st, 2023 at 9:59 AM ^
As an NC State and Duke alum I applaud your wisdom and owe you a case of beer!
September 1st, 2023 at 10:35 AM ^
That's why I don't see the BIG and UNC being a match. Charlotte is the central hub of the ACC.
September 1st, 2023 at 11:21 AM ^
I say piss on Notre Dame that pushed the ACC to add these teams.
September 1st, 2023 at 5:07 PM ^
How the ACC said sure your friends can come as long as you join too.
September 1st, 2023 at 9:15 AM ^
Also the B1G would love to get GT and the ATL TV market
September 1st, 2023 at 9:46 AM ^
I have always thought that GT would be a better fit for the BIG10.than the ACC. High acedemics and a football school. (Not too mention getting an in to the Georgia fooball talent base.
September 1st, 2023 at 8:14 AM ^
Seems like it, however, it might end when the top brands in both the SEC and B10 conferences get together and say hold up, we can make how much if all of us are in the same conference.
September 1st, 2023 at 8:18 AM ^
I doubt anything will get more absurd than the Atlantic Coast Conference adding schools on the Pacific coast, but this will keep happening as long as the conferences and networks are allowed to act purely in their own self-interest.
September 1st, 2023 at 8:33 AM ^
Perhaps an odd question but in whose interest shall they act?
September 1st, 2023 at 8:50 AM ^
College football as a whole.
Best interests of themselves and the group... This conference realignment garbage is bad for the sport. Then again - the tv deals are short-sighted on the part of the networks. Neither side is smart enough to see what's two steps passed this insanity, and it's really sad.
September 1st, 2023 at 9:06 AM ^
Most of college football is not impacted by realignment. FCS, D2, D3, NAIA, and about 70% of FBS are not impacted by realignment.
Realignment mainly hurts poser programs that really do not have the capability to compete with programs like SC, Clemson, OSU, etc…for national titles. It is true that the SEC and Big Ten have programs like that within their conference which are essentially grandfather claused in.
The existential threat to the sport is not the altering of conferences, which impact relatively few programs,but concerns over medical issues pertaining to playing football.
September 1st, 2023 at 9:11 AM ^
I disagree that college football is about winning national titles and programs who can't are "posers." Have we been a poser program for the last 25 years? I love the NFL too, but I love college football because it's not just about who's left standing in January.
September 1st, 2023 at 10:00 AM ^
“I love the NFL too, but I love college football because it's not just about who's left standing in January.”
The playoff has changed that. Now that Michigan has made the last two, would you really be ok with not making the playoff? And this season anything short of winning a National Championship could be considered a failure.
September 1st, 2023 at 10:37 AM ^
We are not favored to win the championship by anyone. How could not winning it be a failure? Even an optimistic outlook would only give us about 25% chance of doing so, should we make the playoffs.
I would greatly prefer that we win it, but who knows what will actually happen. i would prefer to judge the season after its over.
September 1st, 2023 at 1:25 PM ^
“We are not favored to win the championship by anyone”
Really? Cause I have seen a number of people pick Michigan to win it all. Also, how could the #2 ranked team not be favored by anyone to win the championship?
September 1st, 2023 at 1:33 PM ^
Because the #1 ranked team is favored.
September 1st, 2023 at 12:24 PM ^
If we win the Big Ten, I'll always consider that a success. I have very fond memories of the last two seasons, regardless of how the CFP semifinal went.
I definitely would love to win it all but it's tough to bank on that.
September 1st, 2023 at 2:59 PM ^
Even though we are picked by some to win it all, we should not be considered by anybody to be a favorite against the field. Too many variables at work to consider that the most likely case. So if we lost in the finals I would say that would be disappointing, or would be a missed opportunity, but to call it a failure is overstating it.
September 1st, 2023 at 4:57 PM ^
By posers I mean schools like Wazzu and Oregon State who don’t have the financial resources to truly contend for national titles. Michigan does. It just is historically inept when it reaches the national level.
That is the program’s proverbial monkey on it’s back.
September 1st, 2023 at 11:39 AM ^
Here I was under the impression that college sports conferences were under obligation to serve the interests of the students at their respective schools.
September 1st, 2023 at 8:59 AM ^
Introducing the All Coasts Conference
September 1st, 2023 at 9:08 AM ^
I'm still waiting on Hawaii to the ACC.