Semi OT - ASU Receives Penalties for Covid Recruiting Violations
ASU received their punishments form the NCAA for their Covid recruiting violations and they are far stiffer than what Michigan received. While there is some overlap to what Michigan was charged with (zoom workouts, meeting during a dead period), they also had some pre NIL illegal inducements and played with those players that should have been ineligible.
In summation ASU received:
- Scholarship reductions
- Fine
- 4 years probation
- bowl ban (self imposed, served in 2023)
- Vacated wins
- Recruiting restrictions
- Show causes ranging from 3 to 10 years
- Dissociation from a booster for 5 years
In exchange for the following violations (from ESPN article):
The allegations first came to light three years ago, when a package of documents sent to the NCAA detailed several recruiting violations, including ignoring restrictions in place during the COVID-19 recruiting dead period. During this time, a mother of a player purchased travel accommodations for recruits to visit campus, staff members provided guided tours to roughly a dozen recruits when campus was closed to visitors, and a coach worked out a player in a park.
The NCAA found ASU offered "recruiting inducements, impermissible tryouts and [committed] tampering."
Link: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39975886/arizona-state…
Self-imposed "bowl ban" for a 3-9 season. Convenient.
I mean, we 'punished" Harbaugh and others while we were playing borderline JV teams.
And also when we played PSU, Maryland, and OSU. I know those were for a different "violation" but missing your HC for a game is a big deal no matter when it happens.
I suppose if we lost, I'd feel different, but the teams Harbaugh sat out against, we could have had Madden recommend calls and won.
To be fair, “we” didn’t punish Harbaugh for those three games. The B1G did, and Michigan was intent upon fighting the suspension until it became pretty clear we weren’t going to win the case and fighting it wouldn’t have been resolved in a timely manner anyway.
To be fair, they announced the bowl ban before the season even started, IIRC. (Not that they were expected to be bowl eligible going into the season…)
You're right, they announced the 2023 Bowl ban on 29-August-2023.
Imposing an "ex post facto" Bowl ban would be lame, but that didn't happen here.
YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!
Herm did better at ASU than I thought he would.
Fuckin' A man...I think every school violated the CVID restrictions in one way or another. Why was Michigan in particular singled out? As we all know the NCAA hates Harbaugh and everything he stands for (like equitable treatment of players) and especially that he is not hesitant to speak his mind. A bunch of betas trying to take down a lion only to have the lion win a championship, give them the middle finger and head off to the NFL.
Are you asking why Michigan was singled out for violating COVID policies in the thread of penalties a different team has received as a result of violating COVID policies?
Sounds like alpha Robbie's had his creatine injection for the day.
Three years ago? The NCAA sure moves slowly.
I seem to distinctly remember the NCAA pushing to move on an “expedited timeline” to take action on Harbaugh.
I guess when you bow down and kiss the ring, even when you get in trouble they’ll give you a stay of execution.
And yet....this will get no headlines, and the Michigan punishment will get major headlines.
Yes, I expect this to be plastered across every website for days. Too bad Gregg is occupied with other matters, I’m sure he’d love to weigh in.
I mean there's a really good reason for that. We're one of the most widely watched and best blueblood CFB programs who had an iconic HC that every single football fan has an opinion of. There are much worse problems to have than a negative headline or two.
Because they’re effing Arizona State. And we’re Michigan.
There’s your answer why.
If you want Arizona State to garner equal headlines, you need to find a way to get people to care about Arizona State.
Wasn’t it Caleb Williams that posted a photo with other recruits from inside the Oklahoma facilities during the Covid dead period? There was no investigation. If I didn’t know better I’d think the NCAA is selective in their enforcement.
It's because we matter most. Silver lining here. If nobody cared then we wouldn't be where we want to be
With NIL covering some scholarships these days, some of these punishments are going to be meaningless.
If only this was Ohio State instead of Arizona State they would have gotten away with it all.
Well their time is coming, and that right soon...
Unless it was due to the coach buying recruits tacos I’m not impressed.
What about cheeseburgers?
If the cheeseburgers had green chile topping they would have gotten the death penalty.
New Mexico State just had a panic attack.
You've made me want a taco, or three.
I'm eating a quesadilla as I write this 🤪
Vacated wins for something that literally everyone has been doing for decades has always been stupid and always will be. Especially since most of this is legal now with NIL.
NCAA always penalizes people who don’t fight back
Someone tell the buckeye numbnutz over at Shmuckeye Poop that the NCAA must have inadvertently used "the Hammer" meant for UM on ASU.
Yeah, these violations were far more egregious than what UM did but Herm was also somewhat combative like Harbaugh was, which didn't help the Sun Devils. But this feels about right in terms of punishment.
Bill Self agrees. "Seems about right" well done fair and balanced NCAA!
The NCAA is TOUGH. Like Ryan Day tough.
Why does the NCAA think scholarship reductions are a legitimate thing?
Cleveland State will get hammered by the NCAA. And also, any coaches over 67 that were fired will also be penalized.
Good thing the squeaky-clean SEC didn't do any of this!
OSU, USC, UM, PSU (for nothing to do with competition), ASU
If you get lathered up when another non SEC school goes down the NCAA appreciates your service.