Scot loeffler a possible oc candidate?

Submitted by tomcat on January 27th, 2024 at 1:46 PM

With harbaugh gone this year and weiss gone the previous year, who will bring qb development experience to our offense? I think whoever takes over as OC should have qb expertise and scot loeffler is just down the road. I havent looked at how his qbs have faired over the years or if his offense would fit. its not a hc position for scot, but it gets him back to his alma mater. 

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bighouseinmate

January 27th, 2024 at 3:16 PM ^

There are some seriously bad takes here, starting with Loeffler as OC. He has experience, yes, but is not someone who will contribute to continuity. 
 

Also, Campbell as OC, or co-OC is not a bad move as some people believe. He has had a huge hand in developing JJ the past two seasons and contributing to the passing game schemes. I’d still love to see Hart as OC and Campbell move to QB/Passing game coordinator, but if Hart is gone Campbell is NOT a bad choice for OC. 
 

People wanting retreaded old names just because they know them are wanting what got Hoke completely in over his head at the end. I trust Moore to have an idea of who can come in and keep offensive and defensive continuity while providing fresh ideas and wrinkles to schemes and plays that will succeed. 

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Blau

January 27th, 2024 at 3:59 PM ^

I’d agree that the passing game, outside of the TE group and Roman Wilson making some plays when targeted, has been subpar.

That said, you play to your strengths and capabilities. Not only will Michigan have to break in a new QB with little to no starting experience, the WR group may be the weakest link on the entire team. I’m all about balancing the attack a little more but incrementally.

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ST3

January 27th, 2024 at 4:00 PM ^

The passing game wasn’t very good, it was exceptional. JJ was third in the country in QBR. Michigan was 1st in the Big Ten and 15th nationally in yards per attempt. We were tied for third nationally in fewest interceptions thrown. 
What we lacked in quantity was more than made up for in quality. “Average at best”? Come on, man!

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Blue Middle

January 27th, 2024 at 3:16 PM ^

No.

These are critical days for Sherrone.  He could stick with Campbell and promote him to OC, but he has to weigh his chances for adding a mind like Moorhead to the staff.  Is Moorhead a fit culturally and philosophically?  What about Jason Candle?  

It can feel easy to stay in house.  But the most important thing is building the best possible staff.  That doesn't always mean the best minds--if Moorhead isn't a fit then he's not a good choice, even if he's a great playcaller.

Moore's staff will dictate his success more than any other single factor, as it did with Harbaugh.  I'm hoping and praying he has the wisdom and resources to build a great team.

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blueheron

January 27th, 2024 at 3:19 PM ^

I think Lloyd Carr deserves all the honors bestowed upon him for his job as head coach. I'm not even a tiny bit interested in anyone from his dismal coaching tree.

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MIMark

January 27th, 2024 at 3:38 PM ^

Loeffler has never once stuck around long enough to demonstrate how good he can really be. He had to salvage a mess at VT, a bigger mess at BC, and the single biggest trainwreck in college football history at BG. These past two years the offenses have been solid, finally after years of recruiting and developing. Generally efficient, very multiple, lots of TEs, loads of misdirections. But these past two years have some problems. There are just off days, where the offense inexplicably has no run blocking and goes 0 / 4 on 4th down. And other days where the offense scores high 30s and makes it look easy.

This year will be the first time where he truly gets to reap the fruit of years and years of building. Unless you closely follow the MAC, you just cannot possibly understand how dreadful of a situation he inherited. This year is the year. Veteran QB, veteran line, probably the conference’s best RB, probably top 3 at worst conference defense. Stay healthy and this is a MAC title team. For that reason, he's not leaving. Even if he were a candidate, and alum or not, he's finally got what he has been trying to build.

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blueheron

January 27th, 2024 at 4:12 PM ^

"... single biggest trainwreck in college football history ..."

Sorry. At first glance that sounds preposterous. MAC schools in the doldrums or worse are routinely turned around by good coaches. That's partly because they rarely face good, sustained competition. And that's because the conference has been a launching pad for talented coaches. Accordingly, a MAC trainwreck can be only so bad. Turnaround is easier.

But, I'll play along. What other schools and years would you put in the all-time top five trainwrecks?

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MIMark

January 27th, 2024 at 4:58 PM ^

As I said if you don't follow it closely you have no idea.

- Attrition. The prior coach, Mike Jinks, had three recruiting classes. All plagued with attrition. The 2016 class was half gone just two years in. The 2017 class was a quarter gone one year in. The 2018 class was half gone in two years.

- Arrests. BG led the nation in one category in Jinks' last year: players arrested. Something like 7 players arrested in one year, 100% his recruits. The discipline was utterly disastrous

- On field results. Jinks' BEST year was his first - 4-8. And that season included losing 77-10 to Ohio State, and 77-3 to Memphis.

- And this is all in the context of what proceeded Mike Jinks. The previous two coaches were Dave Clawson and Dino Babers. Jinks inherited a team that had won the division 3 straight times. Had beaten several Big Ten teams. That same Memphis team that beat Jinks' team by 74 points? Babers played them to a 55-52 shootout. Jinks inherited the majority of starters on both sides of that team and more than enough depth, and tanked it.

Yes. Worst trainwreck in college football history. Loeffler has finally pointed that thing in the right direction after that disaster.

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uminks

January 27th, 2024 at 4:06 PM ^

Seems like we need more of a pass coordinator and QB coach. Let Hart be the RB coach and co-OC for the run game. Hart may already know he will be passed up and probably the reason he was not here for the parade or Moore's introduction.

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