Rosenberg (SI): Michigan regents discussed leaving Big Ten Conference
Tony Petitti has no idea how badly he just botched his job, but here is a hint: In a meeting last week, Michigan’s regents discussed possibly leaving the Big Ten if Petitti suspended coach Jim Harbaugh without what the school considered due process, a person familiar with those discussions told Sports Illustrated.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:34 PM ^
Might as well threaten. Big10 is nothing without UM. Would try ACC or Big 12.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:57 PM ^
ACC or independent w. ACC affiliation are the only two viable options
November 10th, 2023 at 7:04 PM ^
Independent all the way. I'm tired of sharing a cut with the whiny ass Indianas of the world.
Let TV pay us what we are REALLY worth. $100,000,000 a year. Fuck you Big Ten with your poor people money.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:23 PM ^
It’s time to be independent. Michigans value will be enhanced by being independent. Think what SC, UCLA and others from the pac will feel losing Michigan?
Michigan has a great opportunity to be rewarded for being their own brand once and for all. Other teams will follow, it’s about money and Michigan will reset the market.
be the leaders and best !
November 10th, 2023 at 6:35 PM ^
As they should. I cant believe the league is so blinded by the desire to hammer Michigan today without investigation that they don’t see how it could easily be the end of the league
If Michigan goes, OSU is gone the same week and then byebye TV money
November 10th, 2023 at 6:39 PM ^
Once Mich is gone nothing else need change. It's what they're looking for. Ohio State is going to leave after that? Lol.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:04 PM ^
Ohio wanted Harbaugh out, not Michigan
November 10th, 2023 at 7:10 PM ^
Don't think OSU want UM gone. Their fanbase won't like it. They just want UM to be a mediocre team.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:45 PM ^
The entire Big Ten needs and wants UM to be mediocre. That way they all can go back to just being OSUs bitches another 50 years. Youll see tomorrow when PSU runs 3x more and passes 1/3 the time they did vs OSU. Everyone drops to their knees for OSU. EVERYONE except us.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:44 PM ^
Yeah, I’m less surprised by the idiocy of the commissioner, who probably wasn’t going to be there long anyway, and more surprised in the schools not named Michigan State and Ohio State. Michigan and OSU are easily 60% of the bargaining power for the TV networks with PSU probably 20%. No one outside of their fans cares to check in on Minnesota Wisconsin or purdue indiana. I think they thought UofM was the UofM of old, taking all the shit before. But with alignments going crazy, I don’t see why they’d think we accept this and stay. They may have way overplayed their hand.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:52 PM ^
Nothing attractive about Purdue-Rutgers? Illinois-Nebraska? Maryland-Minnesota?
Yeah, sounds about right.
I wonder what UW, UO, USC and UCLA think about this....
November 10th, 2023 at 7:02 PM ^
Curious about this as well. Especially USC, who hasn’t been great at keeping their nose clean. I know, it’s about the money stupid. Michigan should at least host a Teams call: “would, uh, you guys be okay if we conference in Georgia, Alabama, etc. to the call as well?”
November 10th, 2023 at 7:26 PM ^
There’s a rumor that they don’t want to join the B1G anymore. They all want Michigan to join the PAC-12, and it’s pretty much a done deal.
(By there’s a rumor, I mean I’m starting a rumor . . .)
November 10th, 2023 at 9:35 PM ^
I don't think it was all of the other schools, but there are definitely coaches who have animosity toward Harbaugh aside from the obvious:
You can make an argument for the entire Big 10 East. Bert hates us for whatever reason as does his protege Walters. Fickell is a dick bag. I don't think Fleck, Northwestern's coach or Ferentz care but I could be wrong.
Fuck 'em all and leave. League has had a toxic fixation on Michigan and it's time to find respectful partners.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:46 PM ^
Fuck that, let Ohio stay with the 15 Iowas and enjoy watching the TV money dry up.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:49 PM ^
This is what thin skinned osu wants. After they got competition in the conference and sent an investigator and angry mob after us. They're not leaving
November 10th, 2023 at 7:16 PM ^
OSU wouldn't leave for us, they're the reason we should leave. Fuck those scumbags
November 10th, 2023 at 6:53 PM ^
I believe the Michigan/Big Ten relationship has been severed forever and I also believe Michigan is very aware of how the Big Ten has ignored many things going on in the conference that have been a direct detriment to Michigan athletics for quite some time. Not limited to schools working together to beat Michigan but working together to make recruiting difficult for Michigan.
I would not blame Michigan for leaving and not taking Ohio State with them. They definately won't take MSU with them.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:10 PM ^
they've got west coast TV money coming next year, lest we forget. the leadership showed their hand for how inept they are - they may think it's a wash
November 10th, 2023 at 7:46 PM ^
Why should the West Coast schools be happy with a Michigan-less Big Ten? They should join the ACC also.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:49 PM ^
UW and Oregon may play better than Wisconsin/Iowa but their fanbases arent any better. USC is close if they are lighting up the college world. You get a 6-6 USC or Ucla and nobody is turning on their TVs.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:59 PM ^
these are the same schools that couldn't get $30M per team in the PAC. They don't move the needle like people think.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:09 PM ^
I am a little late to the party, but what is the significance of BET? Thank you.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:14 PM ^
It means watch us....bet on us it's confidence in the face of adversity from the players.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:16 PM ^
This was the team's collective response - via tweets - to news of coach's suspension at the hands of the commissioner. Think the first several I saw were Jenkins, JJ, Zak, Mikey, Barnhart. More followed suit, with Tom Brady even tweeting "Bet" at JJ. Colloquial speak for "okay, now it's on."
November 10th, 2023 at 7:25 PM ^
Right on. Thanks!
November 10th, 2023 at 6:36 PM ^
Good, do it. The BIG is basically a glorified BIG12 if M isn’t there
November 10th, 2023 at 6:41 PM ^
Most everyone west of Ann Arbor is a Big 12 team without M OSU and PSU. Only survivor might be Wisconsin
November 10th, 2023 at 7:47 PM ^
Yeah, what’s the difference between Texas tech, Oklahoma state, and west Va from Indiana, illinois, northwestern, etc etc. one conference generally plays defense and one generally plays offense but throw them all into a hat and you can’t tell the difference. The BIG12 was OK and TX, just like the BIG is M and OSU. And if one leaves, you Have nothing
November 10th, 2023 at 6:36 PM ^
The donors have the final word.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:36 PM ^
On the ball and above board. Would expect nothing less of U of M. Nice.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:37 PM ^
DO NOT GIVE MICHAEL ROSENBERG ANY CLICKS. HE IS STILL AWFUL.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:37 PM ^
But did you know that Stalions is a longtime friend of Central Michigan coach Jacob Kostner, a former Michigan student assistant, according to someone who knows them both? Does Petitti know? Has he asked Kostner if he knew Stalions was there (if, indeed, he was there), if Kostner helped Stalions get there, and, if this was indeed a case of a spy sneaking onto Central Michigan’s sideline, why Chippewas coach Jim McElwain said his program was “totally unaware” Stalions was there? McElwain has not provided an update since; the latest reason is that it is part of an NCAA investigation. If that was indeed Stalions, was he working on behalf of Michigan, Central Michigan, neither, or both?
November 10th, 2023 at 6:37 PM ^
I just put this in another thread, but this is more pertinent. I think Michigan and PSU leave for ACC with the west coast schools and force OSU to go to SEC
New conferences:
SEC: current additions plus OSU
PAAC: Pacific / Atlantic Coastal Conference will be ACC teams, Michigan, ND, PSU, USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal. Oregon, washington
Big conference: 11 Big 10 teams and the Big 12 teams plus Oregon state and Washington state. No blue bloods,
I’m guessing there will be a push by SEC and PAAC to run their own football league and championship
I’m guessing Maryland and Rutgers go to big east.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:40 PM ^
PSU can stay. I want no part of that school.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:47 PM ^
I’m being realistic. PSU is a big brand that doesn’t want to be in the BIG. I think they would leave the instant we leave to the PAAC. As others stated, the California teams and oregon and Washington may be able to get a better deals on the new conference. PSU at least isn’t a boat anchor the rest of the conference is.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:05 PM ^
FUCK PSU
November 10th, 2023 at 6:50 PM ^
Meh. Frames is a tool, but so incompetent he his pretty harmless.
That aside, I'd love this lineup. Give
Michigan protected rivalries with ND, USC and UCLA ( ND last week of year, travel to soCal every year).
ND rivals - M, USC, Stanford
USC rivals M, ND, UCLA
Works out pretty nicely.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:41 PM ^
Actually if anyone should leave, it’s Ohio State. They are contiguous to SEC country and seem to hold skool in the the same esteem as their mouth-breathing brethren.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:42 PM ^
Here's an interesting question: would Washington and Oregon get a bigger share if they also left for a new conference or for the ACC? They obviously took half shares to start, and I imagine a full share in a new conference could easily offset any exit fee.
I'd be curious if we could create a new conference with the more valuable half of the ACC, UW, Oregon, and maybe ND/Penn State. The ACC GOR can be dissolved by majority vote.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:45 PM ^
Yeah, you know UM will say to ACC: "We are coming on one condition. No one currently in the B1G may join the ACC. Ever. (USC, UCLA, OU(NTOU), UW(NTUW) are OK b/c they aren't responsible for this mess.)"
(Of course, TAMU tried that when they joined the SEC re Texas, and we know how that turned out... but this isn't TAMU v Texas.)
November 10th, 2023 at 6:55 PM ^
You just need to make sure the bylaws are clear and non- performance by the conference carries a big penalty.
I'd take PSU, Maryland and Rutgers. Gut the B1G's eastern seaboard play.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:01 PM ^
I don’t want those teams. Let OSU pay for Maryland and Rutgers.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:19 PM ^
Why would or could the West Coast schools leave the BIG so fast?
November 10th, 2023 at 7:26 PM ^
The west coast schools have it written in that they play Michigan in the first few years. Anyone who follows the money wants to play Michigan. ND is a similar school who everyone tunes in for. I think they follow the money to Michigan and negotiate full shares over playing iowa and purdue.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:37 PM ^
If this is how the clown car is going to operate, might as well at least explore contingencies.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:38 PM ^
Our offensive signal placards for the rest of the season should just be two middle fingers every play.
November 10th, 2023 at 6:41 PM ^
Not funny "ha, ha", but when Michigan hits the big time trouble it's for studying.