Rose Parade cancelled
Probably not a surprise but it was officially announced today.
[Edited to make link clickable---rob f]
This parade is supposed to take place on January 1, 2021?
Is that correct?
Yes. That is correct.
This parade is nearly six months away. I think something like this is why some people will not comply with restrictions/masks. This makes them feel as though there is very little point in doing so, with any suggestions of a return to normal life ringing hollow.
Chicken and egg though. Non-compliance with basic health protocols makes this sort of cancellation inevitable.
I guess man. How many people have to "not comply" in order for that to equate to "non-compliance." How much compliance equates to society "complying?" Completely universal, no exception compliance by everybody in the country at every single second? Good luck. This just seems incredibly premature, and is very deflating.
It seems premature, but those floats likely take forever to build. You don’t want to cancel the parade after people have put months into building them.
Many of the companies sponsoring floats immediately begin building for the next year's parade once one is finished.
well, a parade doesn't necessarily need floats. bands, dance teams, shows, etc. plus, if things turn for the better, i'm sure some floats could be built with a month's notice.
contingency planning can be done. for now, the gov could have easily said the rose parade is questionable. do not book any vacation plans yet. more info as we know more. it's dumb to cancel anything six months out.
With the possible exception of local bands, getting the bands together may not be as simple as you think. Two of my kids were supposed to be marching in next winter's Outback Bowl parade. The school cancelled after lukewarm feedback from parents. Who wants to put non-refundable money towards a trip that is unlikely to happen? I'm sure a lot of schools are doing the same thing. With no floats and just a few local bands, cheer groups, etc., the Rose Bowl parade would resemble the Mayberry 4th of July parade.
Oh stop the uniformed speculation and debates. In this case the rose parade is all about the rose floats. That’s all they talk about is how much time is put into designing and building a float made of roses.
If you want to see what a float that takes one month to make looks like, watch the end of Animal House.
Have you ever planned a big event -- a wedding? A conference for work? Takes a lot of work & planning, right?
Now imagine you have to plan an event 100x that big.
An event that takes thousands of workers (some paid, some volunteer), requires floats that take many months to build, warehouse space to safely hold those floats, high school bands from around the country who have to make travel plans, city permits that need to be purchased, sponsors who have fiscal year budgets with dollars allocated a year-plus in advance...
...and decide you're going to wait until November until you cancel it or not. And if you do cancel it, you've literally wasted tens of millions of dollars & materials, and left many volunteers & high schools in a difficult spot (e.g., getting a refund for hotels and airline tickets).
Sure it's deflating. But that's the end result of our country's horrible management of this virus and significant portions of society deciding not to take it seriously..
Yeah, I guess. If this is the case though, if that is where we are at, it makes the idea of college football or even school in the fall (or even spring) a complete fantasy land.
...it kind of is a fantasy land though.
i get that it's a big event. but it's an event that's gone on for over 100 years. me thinks most things can almost run itself by now. it's not like they shut down the streets of pasadena a month in advance.
i'm sure there are numerous bands and entertainment that would commit to that event even though it could be canceled.
the event could be scaled back so that minimal financial damage is done by a Nov/early Dec cancelation.
you bring up wedding planning as an example. this doesn't need to be a billion dollar affair like years past, just like a wedding doesn't need to be at westminster abbey with a 5 star catered reception. a backyard wedding with a bbq reception can be fun, too, at much less cost and planning.
Saying the Rose Parade 'runs itself' is a bit of an insult to all of the people who actually do the work to make it run. Just because an event has happened for over a hundred years doesn't make it any less of a challenge for that event to take place. Even a scaled back Rose Parade would likely take months of planning, plus the added challenge of accomplishing just about anything right now, and still with no guarantee that the event would take place.
How many people have to "not comply" in order for that to equate to "non-compliance." How much compliance equates to society "complying?" Completely universal, no exception compliance by everybody in the country at every single second? Good luck. This just seems incredibly premature, and is very deflating.
If any of us thought for a second you were asking these questions with an open mind and looking to learn something, ijohnb, maybe you'd get some answers.
I think they are pretty good questions, actually.
THE ROSE PARADE IS CANCELLED!?!
FUCK THIS MASK AND FUCK EVERYTHING LETS ALL JUST GIVE UP AND DIE
Seriously, "because the rose parade was cancelled" has to be the lamest anti-mask excuse I'll ever hear
FUCK YO 'RADE
I agree with you (so +1 to bring your total to -21, ha ha).
I want to see some governmental folk and leaders showing HOPE. Governor Newsom, for instance, all he says is "shutting this down, you guys aren't complying, these will be the consequences, blah blah blah."
All stick and no carrot is poor leadership (and a poor way to get people behind you). Newsom, I don't think, has ever offered a carrot.
Are you complaining that governor Newsom wants to believe people to be intelligent and rational? Further, he’s deployed measures without the stick (fines, citations, national guard) hoping that people would be intelligent and rational.
Other countries have added in the stick and have been more successful than what’s going on in Los Angeles. The lesson here based on the facts is that he should put in place a stick.
I know of no jurisdiction where there has been a carrot put in place for people to do the right thing. Yet you are suggesting that governor Newsom, or any other government leader, should take a flyer and come up with some incentive when there are other options that are already validated?
I'm trying to wrap my head around the notion that people will see the Rose Parade being canceled and think as a result, "nah, I'm not going to wear a mask now."
Six months away, but it probably takes about that long to organize the event, so if they need to make the decision, then now is the time to be making the decision.
My company is planning a (much) smaller event that is occurring in spring 2021.
There have already been huge changes to it (e.g., normally it is solely face-to-face event; that is no longer an option) because possible attendees have come back with their fiscal year budgets (July 2020 - June 2021), which are in shambles.
Once it became clear the universities in California (and much of the rest of the US) were going mostly online, and that football was going to happen at a reduced schedule (at best), the Rose Bowl Parade needed to make this decision.
I marched in the 96th Rose Bowl Parade with the Rockford (MI) High School Marching Band my Senior year in 1986. We submitted the application to the Tournament of Roses Committee in early 1984 to be one of the high school bands across the country to perform. We were accepted in late '84 or very early '85 to march in the '86 parade. We spend the full year of '85 raising money and handling the logistics of hauling 250 kids, equipment, and parental chaperones across the country the day after Christmas for a week stay at the Disneyland Hotel, a parade in Disneyland that week, and the parade itself. I still think my mom has a chest freezer full of frozen ham and cheese sub sandwiches we sold as one of the many fundraisers that year. It was an absolutely unforgettable and once in a lifetime event, and I would have been crushed to have had it cancelled six months out. Like many things these days, I feel for anyone who has had a milestone event cancelled because of this virus. For many, those events will never come around again in this lifetime. Definitely understandable, but it all just sucks.
I edited the OP to make it easier for you and everyone else to read the article, which explains very well the rationale behind the decision.
It's usually best to read and understand rather than base a complaint solely on a headline.
Thank you Rob. I was waiting for people to complain about it not being a direct link. And I would have deserved it. I was happy just to cut and paste the URL and not fuck that up.
Now I KNOW its real
Can't wait for the posts about the game being next
On the surface it seems premature to cancel now (5+ months away), but it makes sense considering the amount of work and preparation for it - much of it done in close quarters.
The Tournament of Roses didn't want parade participants raising or spending money for an event that they couldn't guarantee would happen. Flowers for the floats are typically ordered at the end of July and a lot of the bands need to raise money to make the trip.
Really fucking insightful honestly
Yeah, this is the important point. It's not being cancelled because they already know they don't want crowds on 1/1/21, the main reason it's being cancelled is because the float construction & decoration process involves people (many of them elderly volunteers) working in close proximity inside a building.
(And, as firstmachineage points out here, because all of the work making those floats is really just a pointless waste of effort if it ends up needing to be cancelled anyway).
Even if things magically start to get better, which they won't, I'm assuming that there won't be any large scale events for about the next year.
Shit is going to get real once everyone heads inside for the winter months.
Let’s hope not. Right?
I would love nothing more than to be wrong. I'd gladly eat my words.
The six weeks from Thanksgiving to New Year's will be hell on earth.
And the six weeks after that will be even worse.
Seems a little premature but alas
CDC Director said yesterday America in for the worst fall/winter it has seen with health environment. This seems a logical reaction.
Football canceled.
If this is true, are they looking at playing in spring? Is this all D1 programs and sports ?
These events are dragging this out. Need a reliable vaccine. Won’t stop it without one.
Ain’t the first event to be cancelled, and it sure won’t be the last.
Macys Day Parade, NYE at Times Square, Texas State Fair, Mardi Gras, and many more.....they’re all on the chopping block.