PFF has two Michigan safeties in their Top 10 safeties, making 3 of 4 starting DBs highly rated.

Submitted by Ezekiels Creatures on May 14th, 2023 at 2:03 PM

 

https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1657772003514806273

 

Will Johnson has high rating from them too:

 

https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1614066517330608129 https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1654555811337699329

 

 

Now just awaiting who will be named the 4th starting DB.

 

Some bonus factoids:

Remember this in the BIG10 Championship?

https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1599442153704415233

 

Cam

May 14th, 2023 at 2:12 PM ^

A real shame Turner decided to leave only to get drafted 60th. Michigan would have arguably the best secondary in the country if he had come back.

I don’t fault him for pursuing his dream, but it seems like he got bad advice.

Vote_Crisler_1937

May 14th, 2023 at 2:18 PM ^

It would be nice to have a 2nd round draft pick who led the combine in 40 yd. dash time opposite Will Johnson. Hard to be too upset at a guy going in the 2nd round. Not that you are saying that.

It’s not like some projected starters who left and then didn’t even get picked. 

This reminds me of the 90s when I would pine for players leaving early to stay only to realize more talent was coming anyway and those guys need to go get paid. 

blueheron

May 14th, 2023 at 2:25 PM ^

"... only to get drafted 60th."

He got drafted in the 2nd round of the NFL draft. It's not like he's praying to make someone's practice squad.

If he spends another year at Michigan, he risks injury and possibly exposure of some relative weaknesses.

I think he did very well for himself. It helped that he blew up at the combine. I can't see him moving his ceiling much higher with another year in college.

Watching From Afar

May 14th, 2023 at 2:51 PM ^

I... Is this sarcasm?

Turner's combine performance was what vaulted him into the 2nd round. He wasn't a guaranteed 2nd rounder going into the combine. He was a 2 year starter with plenty of tape and before he showed off his surprising speed, scouts knocked his size (can't fix that with another year of a college ball) issues with bigger WRs (again, size limited him) and tackling (arm tackling and not being big enough to really take guys down consistently). Also he was grabby at times, but that could be coached out.

Unless next year's draft was predicted to be a weak CB class, 2nd rounder was probably going to be Turner's peak draft position no matter the year.

Vote_Crisler_1937

May 14th, 2023 at 2:12 PM ^

I realize the media and some of our Spartan neighbors want to make a big deal about Moten starting 11 games then transferring. However, this is in no way like Brantley testing the portal for MSU. Michigan has a loaded room where a guy could be B10 starter quality and still be unhappy with expected playing time.
 

While the younger guys may* not be at Moten’s level (yet) they too would be coveted by most programs as at least backups. 
 

feels good. Then remember years of “Never Forget” and it really feels good. 

OldSchoolWolverine

May 14th, 2023 at 3:46 PM ^

That should be the definition of sour grapes by Sparty.   Paige rose up and took the job, and everyone saw it, Moten played worse and worse as Paige played better and better.. A shame Moten didn't stay, but this isn't Coleman the starter leaving. This is akin to Rocky Lombardi leaving because he got beat out and knew it.

Maizinator

May 14th, 2023 at 2:36 PM ^

The season will likely come down to a few plays and how the injury gods treat the team.  You can't help but be really excited about where this team will start at. 

I have confidence one of the new guys will emerge by the time we get to the late season games.  Hopefully, it will be two.

Watching From Afar

May 14th, 2023 at 2:55 PM ^

DB is really the only spot that can't afford injuries. Well that and QB, but that's the case for practically every program.

They have 2 stud RBs.

At least 2 good TEs and we haven't seen the other highly rated guys much yet.

WR is a little thin so throw them in there I guess.

OL is 2 deep practically everywhere. Maybe some question at the back up OT spots 

DT has 4 guys easy.

DE has 3 or 4 guys.

LB has what, 4 guys now?

Safety has 2 known commodities and then RS freshmen with almost no playing time.

CBs have Johnson and then question marks.

Heck, they even have a 2 deep at K/P now with the transfers.

Watching From Afar

May 14th, 2023 at 8:04 PM ^

Yes, it is. Tuttle has game tape and he has transferred multiple times for a reason. He might not light the offense on fire like John O'Korn, but he's a significant drop off from the 5-star starting QB who might play his way into the top 2 rounds of the NFL draft.

Warren is a complete unknown. No matter what he's done in the spring games, we've never seen him take a meaningful live snap in a game.

Grampy

May 14th, 2023 at 5:16 PM ^

Yep, if #2 has to step in, he’ll just need to know enough of the playbook and be careful with the football.  He will have a ton of talent around him and other teams will be built around JJ’s skills, at least for a while. 
  I thought Tuttle looked serviceable in the spring game, but I loved how Orji and Warren looked, too. Talent at all positions helps a lot. 

Watching From Afar

May 14th, 2023 at 8:02 PM ^

There are few programs in the country that could replace their starting QB and not see a significant drop off.

The second JJ goes out, teams are sending 9 guys at the LoS to take on the running game. Warren is still a complete unknown and Tuttle has game tape that isn't inspiring. It's perfectly ok to say they're in trouble if their 5-star QB goes out without another 5-star waiting to step in (or a proven back up like Cade circa 2021).

evenyoubrutus

May 14th, 2023 at 3:00 PM ^

Michigan's defense in 2022:

-had no pass rush

-no DT depth

-no linebacker depth

And managed to be one of the best defenses in the Big Ten, holding OSU to 3 points in the 2nd half. 

CLord

May 14th, 2023 at 4:32 PM ^

Nice to think that the 4th, unmentioned DB is apparently one of the biggest physical freaks we've seen in years in the form of Walker.

Double-D

May 14th, 2023 at 4:37 PM ^

Will was rated 3rd for overall CB play and Mike Sainrstil was rated 5th for overall CB play.

Impressive group.  This has to be one of the best DB groups in college football.

The sum of its parts is a good one.

Durham Blue

May 14th, 2023 at 4:48 PM ^

What was the story about Will Johnson, that if he were eligible for the NFL draft he probably would've been the first CB off the board?  Or did I dream that?

1WhoStayed

May 14th, 2023 at 6:31 PM ^

Lol. That last pic of W Johnson is the image I was responding to when saying something like “he needs to be careful and not get a taunting penalty!”. Man did I get raked over the coals… Looking at it today, at first glance, it STILL looks like he’s waving those fingers in the PU players face!! Glad he wasn’t!