Outrage Du Jour: SEC Country Having Conniptions Over David Shaw's Comments on Satellite Camps

I don't think he was picking on SEC standards, or the relative smartness of Southern' folk, at all.  Nor do I think he was taking a shot at Harbaugh.  All he said was that holding a camp at some distant location didn't necessarily work for Stanford.  Eligibility requirements being what they are, the 3-4 players that show up that are good enough for a top P5 team gets winnowed to 1, or maybe none, where Stanford is concerned.  I see that point and agree.

However, where Shaw failed in taking that stance is the benefit to the kids of being evaluated by lots of coaches.  He completely neglected that side of it in favor of his own self-interest.  I get his interest in taking care of his team, but he unintentionally aligned himself with the SEC by making it about him, while also alienating the SEC with the thoughtless eligibility comment.  With that statement, he wins the internet by aligning with, and alienating, the same group of people!

So far as the SEC apologists (Finnebaum and Co.) are concerned, they are going to latch on to whatever directs the heat away from the idiocy that is them.  They'll play up this comment until they're blue in the face in a vain attempt to push the attention somewhere else.

FFS we've moved from Sparty disrespekt to ESS-EEE-CEE disrespekt threads daily.

/smh

Are flipping through the yellow pages for Stan Ford's home rotary telephone number to give him a piece of their mind.

Shaw have a point. Considering the educational level in the south, it would be a waste of time for Stanford to hold satellite camp because they have to be admitted as a student first while being good enough to play d1 level.

He could have used a different number than 1 and be fine

By every objective measure of educational attainment the south fails pretty hard.  So maybe the south should stop worrying so much about what Shaw said and stop being the dumbest part of the country instead.  

when he said "where there might be one person in the entire state that's eligible to get into Stanford" he was referring to elite level football players. So he's saying why camp in a state where, AMONG THE ELITE LEVEL FOOTBALL PLAYERS, there might only be one of them that can actually get into Stanford. I don't think he was actually referring to the entire population of the state. However, if he was, that's an epic troll job.

There's money to be made in faux outrage. The sad part is the thing we should care about most, the student athletes, seem to be the furthest thing from people's minds. Guess it's because there is money to also be made by exploiting them too.

SEC disrespekt makes me smile.

PAAAAWWWWWLLLLLLLLL

Is he wrong?

The students being paid to take tests and write papers for SEC football players must feel terribly insulted by all of this.

I mean, the context of his statement made sense, but yeah, most of these camps aren't going to feature athletes with the purported admission credentials needed for Stanford. And sure it's arrogant to say it, but if UM is viewed as arrogant then Stanford is a whole other stratosphere. But I also don't really think it's fair to say that Shaw won't go to these camps because it isn't worth it to him from a recruiting standpoint, as Stanford (like all major programs) will bend the admissions standards a bit to get kids in who are good at revenue sports like football. The issue here is that Shaw feels the marginal increase of exposure to under the radar recruits isn't worth the effort.

exactly a gateway academic entry institution and it didn't stop Harbaugh himself from taking a swipe at the school while he was coaching out West, but I don't see Shaw's comments as an educational attack on the SEC so much as a reality-check on whether satellite camps benefit schools like his own. And, of course, as he made clear that's apparently not the case.

It's kind of interesting that you have some schools wanting to protect their recruiting territory by banning satellite camps while others aren't really concerned about their status because they don't reguarly benefit directly from them.

But, this is why what Harbaugh has done in pushing this issue demonstrates his largely altruistic aims in holding them. Yeah, he wants to get the attention of the best athletes and he'll use any oppportunity to make that happen, camps, clinics, speaking engagements, special appearances and recruiting tactics to promote his program.

It's what Harbaugh is doing overall in advancing Michigan's program using its established brand and his celebrity that bothers ACC and SEC officials who don't want him stealing recruits from their area, a selfish and totally insecure backlash to a limited method of recruiting that offers more benefits to campers themselves than Michigan's football program.

I mean this is about stopping one school and coach and it damages the interests of so many others while hardly making a dent in the Michigan recruiting arsenal. I've repeatedly noted this in posts about this topic, but Harbaugh got involved in coaching at regional camps and clinics before his growing profile and his rise in coaching ranks turned his camp appearances into something more than perceived pr events and recruiting opportunities. He actually enjoys teaching football and helping raise the level of play and interest in the game, and he loves staying busy. He has a sign in his office that reads: Just coach your team. And that's what he's done since arriving in Ann Arbor.

And over his brief time here, he's turned the CF world on its head by forcing it to come to grips with what an enthusiasm for the game unknown to mankind can do when you really act on that enthusiasm. 

 

He's just speaking the truth. I guess the truth hurts. What he doesn't get is that a lot of those unqualified kids would greatly benefit from his staffs coaching. You know since he's a great coach from a prestigious school. He might even inspire some kids to try to do what it takes to get into Stanford. It's unfortunate that he can't see what a great opportunity he has, especially as a black man, to inspire and coach up underprivileged yutes. Harbaugh does. 

If he is trying to bash the South, that's pretty dumb (see below). Now, Rhode Island, on the other hand, that is a state where no one goes to Stanford (literally, at least, in the latest freshman class. It was the only state that didn't send anyone to Stanford undergrad).

From Stanford's website:

 

Class of 2016 by the numbers

The largest group of incoming students – 38.1 percent – graduated from California high schools.

The next top five regions represented in the class are the South (15.1 percent); international students and U.S. students who completed high school studying abroad (9.7 percent); the Mid-Atlantic (9.2 percent); Far West – Oregon, Washington, Alaska and Hawaii (8 percent); and the Mid-West (7.8 percent). The other regions are Mountain States (6.3 percent); New England (3.7 percent); and the Great Plains (1.8 percent).

S0UTH EAST CHEATERS

Or is Paul Finebaum trying to create interest on his show by making something out of nothing. Although, David Shaw could have taken a little dig, or is he saying the kids we want, and the ones that can get in, actually come to our camps, so we don't have to go there to find the gems. 

Arnold Ziffel (sp?)

So how long before the NCAA bans insulting the SEC's intelligence?