OT: What are the most annoying homer takes?

Submitted by TyWheatley6 on December 13th, 2022 at 2:52 PM

What homer takes do you find the most useless and annoying?  Leading in to the OSU game, I noticed a ton of takes focusing on the following..

  • OSU has  plays saved for  Michigan (I'm sure M emptied the playbook the week prior)
  • Michigan only beat Maryland by 8/Illinois by 2 (let's just ignore OSU's worst performances)
  • Michigan played a weak schedule (OSU played in the exact same conference, but I guess ND makes it so much better)

This isn't unique to just OSU, but what "talking but saying nothing" takes drive you crazy.

Grampy

December 13th, 2022 at 7:15 PM ^

Anything that emerges from Bret Beilema’s cake hole. Might be the most repellent coach in the B1G. He makes clear the point that OSU and MSU do not have a monopoly on stupid in the B1G. 

On a side note, I also find Brad Underwood a boorish bully. Illinois can certainly pick ‘em. 

Bo Harbaugh

December 13th, 2022 at 8:15 PM ^

OSU is more talented, UM just hit 5 big plays in The Game.

Reality..UM is more talented and just better on both lines, the rb position, and in the defensive secondary.  OSU is only better at the WR position and arguably the QB position, although I'd take JJ over Stroud in a big game, as JJ can and will run.

They have higher rated recruits based on workout warrior metrics, not more talented players. I'd guess they also have more depth given recruiting rankings, but the narrative that their 1's are more talented than UM's 1's, and were just out-coached, is bs. 

They had an entire year to fix their problems on defense and their secondary is still shit and their d-line is still mediocre.  They can't stop the run unless they stack the box.  Their O-line is built to pass protect only.  Same players, same result.  It wasn't just scheme and coaching, this UM team has better football players. 

Marvin Harrison Jr is phenomenal and was the best and most talented player on the field. A healthy JSN is also a legitimate talent.  The rest of their players just aren't special.  

Yes, recruiting matters and stars matter...but this OSU squad, despite recruiting rankings, is not the likes of Urban Meyer teams that had the Bosas, Young, Fields, Elliot, Dobbins, DB's ,etc, etc.

 

Perkis-Size Me

December 13th, 2022 at 10:07 PM ^

Well this OSU team does have those types of talents like the Bosas, Youngs, Dobbins, etc. but there appears to be a vast difference in how they perform under Day vs. how they performed under Meyer. Especially when it came to playing Michigan.

A Meyer OSU team might bumble it’s way through one game a year against Iowa or Purdue, but there was no denying that Meyer was near immaculate over his career in rivalry games, and his record against Michigan does not need to be repeated here. But he was not only able to recruit at an elite level, but he made sure those guys were locked in and laser focused when it came to the final Saturday in November. And they sure as shit played like it, too. They played as a maniacal, hellbent killing machine that you could knock down, but you knew they were going to get back up and give you the killing blow before it was all over.

Day more or less has the same level of raw, physical talent that Meyer had. Especially on offense, and arguably more. But his teams, for all their talent, do not have the killer instinct that Meyer’s teams had. The sheer willpower to not be denied.

Bo Harbaugh

December 13th, 2022 at 11:45 PM ^

Yeah, I disagree.  Day may have recruited as well as Urban based on stars and ratings.

However, not just in the UM game, but over the course of the year, outside of Marvin Harrison Jr, JT Tuimoloau, and Stroud nobody on that team has impressed.  Maybe their not developing the raw, physical talent you speak of from recruit to on field performance, but they simply aren't more talented.  

The only argument that can be made is perhaps they have more athletic potential coming out of high school.

Romeo50

December 14th, 2022 at 8:50 AM ^

Along those lines I would argue as noted that they just don't play against the physical style as much all season a la Army. If you are a spread to West Coast style team you can't change your approach/personnel for a game (practicing once a week). If you can't overwhelm the more physical team by talent than you give them the punchers chance.

Add in the physical teams' 5 plays euphemism that they have the talent to pull off and presto. But with MMMMMMMMMMMMMichigan you won't get the same of those 5 plays. 

So all 3rd base has to do is become a clone of UM or get Urban back. Seems easy enough.

Conversely UM needs more Will Johnsons as that is their only strength against us. Exploiting weaknesses in the secondary. 

Oddly, I swear I just watched the Lions play UM's style lately to great success.

Perkis-Size Me

December 13th, 2022 at 10:00 PM ^

“You won because of five plays and we were otherwise controlling the game.”

Please….

You racked up a lot of yards because Michigan allowed you to. Harbaugh and Minter were perfectly content to cede a ton of passing yards that in turn made you execute on long drives up and down the field that sucked up mounds of clock time. And all you had to show for it in the second half was three points. That is a resounding win for Michigan and a damn good coaching job in my book, given that you supposedly have the best offensive personnel in America. Yards, completion rates, YPA, YAC….that all amounts to jackshit if points don’t come with it. They’re just hollow stats.

You got what Michigan allowed you to have.

As for the whole five plays thing….yeah I don’t recall any of them complaining about the 4-5 plays they needed to beat Michigan in 2016. And they needed every single one of them to win, but to them they just won that game because they were the better team.

tybert

December 13th, 2022 at 10:42 PM ^

Regarding Brady Hoke, the fact that JH positively mentioned him in his end of 2014 press conference means he was a great fan and lover of UM sports, he just couldn't manage the stress and pace of a blue blood school. How many coaches get invited back to celebrate their team's banquet after getting fired. Hoke did in 2014, so I'll always respect his integrity.

To me, the worst of the "homers" are George Blaha and whoever is the stiff announcing MSU football games on radio. His comment after we won in 2018 after pre-game "festivities" was about "UM celebrating like they just won the Super Bowl!" Worst part is Blaha has an MBA from UM but has been infected by the Mork syndrome.

I have listened to the announcers for Ohio football on the way home from UM games and they seem reasonably non-homer.