OT: Talking Unsolved Legends / Events Wednesday - Ghosts

Submitted by Eli on August 21st, 2019 at 6:23 AM

We have almost done it. We are almost to the season. This will be the last of this for this year. If wanted, I will try to do these on Wednesdays, better than ever next year when we get bored again? I thought today we would talk about something that almost everyone can relate to, yet it is definitely unsolved, Ghosts (the spirit of someone who has passed on). About half of people believe in Ghosts according to most polls. I have never seen a ghost, yet I believe in them. I have multiple unexplained incidents. 

I used to live in an old brick house on the North East Central part of town. In that house many strange occurrences happened. Lights would be on when I returned home from a short errand, my young dog at the time would wag tail at something in hallway then follow it with his eyes as it seemed to go up the stairs to the second floor (I literally am getting chills as I type this). I watched a Kong (dogs toy) move in a circular motion on a carpeted floor when nobody was there to move it, my dog and I stared in awe. I had a tv remote, which was sitting on top of an old tv elevate and move 3-4 feet from the TV then drop to the ground. These are a few of many. These may not sell anyone else, but they definitely sold me that spirits do walk among us to some extent. 

3 questions..... 1. Do you believe? 2. Why or Why not? 3. What experiences do you have with ghosts?

Last thoughts to ponder.... 1. It's hard not to believe when so many people have had weird unexplainable experiences. 2. It's hard to believe when it seems so wild and we can't have physical evidence, plus..... why are all the ghosts old.....Why hasn't Tupac, Biggie or Jimi Hendrix been spotted. Its always someone from an era well before us. Perhaps, ghosts have a waiting period before they can return in their old image.

Have a great day guys and let's kick ass this season. Go Blue!

Eli

Broken Brilliance

August 21st, 2019 at 6:39 AM ^

Logically I don't have a reason to believe but when you're in a place with history it's hard not to feel the electricity in the air and feel those chills run down your spine.

The only experience that comes to mind is when I was a teenager and visited an old mental hospital in my hometown on a dark wintry night (Eloise in Westland, MI for locals). I was with another group of kids. On our way to the hospital, we passed a man hole cover that was pried open in a field. Another kid made a wise crack about trapping someone down there and closed the cover. 

This was during the mid 2000s so we were using a digital camera in lieu of Snapchat to document our visit. When we came up to the side of the building and attempted to take a video, the fully charged camera strained to record, flashed, made a mechanical whirring noise and powered down. Upon rebooting the camera, a blurry collection of orbs appeared on the latest image it captured along with a cloud of mist that I thought resembled a face. That was enough for us.

On our way back to our card, the man hole cover was open again. 

ShadowStorm33

August 21st, 2019 at 2:06 PM ^

In addition to the battlefield at Gettysburg, there also places nearby like the Cashtown Inn, supposedly one of the most haunted hotels in the country. 

Got to stay there when I was in high school, definitely some unexplained stuff that night. My parents had similar comments staying on the Queen Mary. 

M and M Boys

August 21st, 2019 at 8:50 AM ^

Before there was a town called "Westland--the Eloise facility had a Wayne, Michigan address.

The stories about Eloise have been told for 180 years.

The movie and the book about Eloise offer a few disturbing chapters from the asylum's history but do not scratch the surface of the stories that are associated with it.

The facility operated from 1839 to 1986. 

It began with 35 residents and grew to over 10,000 during the Depression.

Ghost stories flooded the nearby communities and Halloween was a blockbuster event in those days......

 

 

 

evenyoubrutus

August 21st, 2019 at 7:35 AM ^

In one sense, there's no logical reason to believe in ghosts. But in another sense I think there's enough personal experience that is hard to explain that could mean there is some kind of spiritual dimension. And of course as a person of faith I will always believe there is a spiritual realm, but whether it manifests in our dimension in any capacity is up for debate.

Slightly a different subject, but I've always had a hard time accepting the paranormal. But a few years ago I was walking up my driveway at night and I saw a light floating overhead. I stared at it thinking it might have been the ISS or another satellite, and then in a flash it changed direction 90 degrees and zoomed away at a speed I couldn't fathom, like it was flying into outer space. I still question if I hallucinated or something. I was perfectly sober and wasn't tired or anything. I can't explain what it was but it certainly made me wonder if anything we believe from an intellectual perspective is real.

Chalky White

August 21st, 2019 at 8:54 AM ^

I saw something similar. It was late. I was about to quit drinking and go to bed. I turned off the TV and like always, I looked out the window. I saw two planes flying in the same direction.  The plane in the back shot off in a direction that made no sense at a speed that made no sense. I always wondered if I would ever see something like that by randomly looking out the window. I haven't seen anything like it since.

L'Carpetron Do…

August 21st, 2019 at 11:52 AM ^

I WANT TO BELIEVE. I consider myself a believer in most of this stuff but I still have an inner skeptic that comes out from time to time. 

But, the reason I'm so into this stuff is because of what we don't know. While we live in a highly scientific society these days we still can't explain everything.  I think skeptics get a bit arrogant re: paranormal because there is supposedly no 'proof' of any of these phenomena (in fact, I've found some skeptics to be just as stubborn or fantastic or illogical as some of the most ardent believers). But, there is still so much we don't understand about our own surroundings, planet, universe, even dimension. When conventional explanations fail we might have to consider the alternative, or at least just say 'we don't know'. But the important thing is to keep an open mind.

 

 

NatedoggGoBlue

August 21st, 2019 at 8:02 AM ^

I did an overnight visit at the Ohio State Reformatory (insert OSU criminal joke here), the retired prison where Shawshank was filmed. I had a digital recorder with me and captured a lot of unexplained voices, including responses to questions I asked and on one occasion, someone whistling, almost like a guard walking down the cell block. It was a pretty cool experience.

Jon06

August 21st, 2019 at 8:05 AM ^

No. (A good way to avoid unexplained events like this is to not hang around people who believe in ghosts. Remarkably, nothing inexplicable ever happens if you just do that.)

mGrowOld

August 21st, 2019 at 9:23 AM ^

Me either.   But my wife does and my wife believes in signs so, predictably, she hears things I dont hear and she sees things I dont see.  And for some unexplained reason the ghosts and signs NEVER appear when I'm around - only when she's alone.

Two ways to look at that I guess.  One is she's just seeing and hearing what she wants to see and hear.  Or two - whatever is communicating with her knows I dont believe so they dont appear when I'm around.

I choose to believe the former, she chooses to believe the latter.  I guess we wont know who is right until we pass on ourselves.

huntmich

August 21st, 2019 at 8:09 AM ^

The house I grew up in had many, many unexplained and weird occurrences. Footsteps (not pipes), loud bangs, voices (a man and a woman), children laughing, objects that would go completely lost when you needed them only to wind up on the kitchen table weeks later.

We would hire dog sitters and every one would report terrifying stuff. One of them simply took the dog out of the house to their own house, allowing all the house plants to die, because of how scared they were of the place. None of them ever came back for round two.

It was a creepy place. Eventually we all just started addressing the presence, because we all had so many personal experiences with it. I miss the house for a variety of reasons but also am glad I don't ever have to be alone in it again.

huntmich

August 21st, 2019 at 8:47 AM ^

More weird stuff because I don't wanna work:

 

Had a girlfriend over when my parents were out of town (giggity), and left the house to go grab something, leaving her home alone for 10 minutes. When I came back she was cowering in fear, white as a ghost. She said right after I left she heard me calling her name from the foyer, so she went out to see what I had to say. When she got there she heard something calling her name from upstairs, a voice that definitely wasn't mine and didn't sound human. She ran back into the room she had been in and slammed the door shut until I came back.

 

huntmich

August 21st, 2019 at 9:30 AM ^

More weird stuff, still don't wanna work:

 

My dad came downstairs one morning to candles that were lit but had not burnt down, meaning they were lit recently, not from the night before.

 

My brother heard the patio furniture scraping on the ground, then heard what sounded like large wings flapping and a scream he describes as one of the most terrifying and surreal sounds he has ever heard. The dog, normally very protective of family members, was whimpering and cowering in fear. Nothing was visible to the eye.

 

I'll write more when they come.

1VaBlue1

August 21st, 2019 at 8:16 AM ^

I went to church, and parochial schools, growing up.  But the more I learn about science, and see the actual physical evidence and the math behind it all, the less I believe.  Throughout history, not one shred of physical or scientific evidence has ever been produced to document the existence of ghosts, or God.  Not one.  Yet we continue to learn more about the entire universe surrounding us.  We have the math that proves it all, and are still refining and adding to that proof, while also discovering new facts about the world around us.

Throughout Earth's ~4.5 Billion years, we - humankind - have only been around for, what, ~10,000 years.  Somewhere in the universe, beyond our ability to find them (so far), is another planet harboring life.  That life may have visited us and decided against it.  We don't know...

Aliens seem far more plausible to me than a ghost does...

madsam

August 21st, 2019 at 8:31 AM ^

In the home I grew up in I was awakened by a dull light. As I focused I saw that it was a women walking across the room. She was from the knees up and in different shades of gray. She had clothing that looked like a late 1800’s style, hair in a bun. She was not looking at me, just sort of walking. I got out of bed an approached her thinking someone was in the house, I got about 5 feet away and she turned her head to me, looked at me, then slowly dissolved away.

in my present home I have had more experiences than I can count but never that personal or up close. For me, ghosts are definitely real.

LeCheezus

August 21st, 2019 at 8:43 AM ^

Like some posters I can't believe in a logical reason for ghosts.  I think it's possible unexplained activity attributed to ghosts/paranormal could be attributed to our senses.  We usually assume input from our senses as fact, but whether it's blips in the brain processing inputs, senses not working as they should, emotional input from the brain overriding data from our senses, etc I don't think they are anywhere as reliable as we generally think.

JimboLanian

August 21st, 2019 at 9:12 AM ^

The night after my Mothers funeral back in 2014, I went to sleep on the couch while listening to music on my earbuds. Shortly thereafter, I was jarred awake by my mother pulling my arm and saying, "come with me."  

I did not see her, but the tug on my arm felt all to real as was here voice so clear. Was it in my head? Was it a dream? Why did she want me to go along? I did not want to go too.

Song playing at the time: Great Gig In The Sky - Pink Floyd