OT - Talking Music Monday

Submitted by MGoGrendel on May 23rd, 2022 at 2:05 PM

Slow day on the blog; let’s have fun with music.

I listen to a wide spectrum of rock music, from classic to 80’s to progressive, alternative, and grunge.   Every once in a while, I hear a song with instrument that just doesn't fit with the normal rock band ensemble.  But, the song works non the less.  For example:

Clarinet

  • Billy Joel – Scenes from an Italian Restaurant
  • Supertramp – Breakfast in America (Tuba as well!)
  • Wings – Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five
  • Sting – Englishman in New York

Bagpipes

  • AC/DC – A Long Way to the Top

Flute

  • Jethro Tull – many songs

Strings

  • Elton John – Madman Across The Water

The entire USC marching band

  • Fleetwood Mac – Tusk

 

Rock bands bring in an Orchestra for live concerts and I’m sure I’ve heard a trombone in a song somewhere.  What are songs you’ve listened to where they drop in a different sound?

 

 

Lancer

May 23rd, 2022 at 2:12 PM ^

Everything Counts by Deepche Mode is a classic in the synthpop genre. It uses Shawm, which is this weird woodwind instrument from the middle ages. Really unique, but fits the song so well.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t-gK-9EIq4

B-Nut-GoBlue

May 23rd, 2022 at 2:14 PM ^

Arcade Fire (Regine) plays the accordian on a few of their songs.

Good shout on the bagpipes...definitely not something you hear very often in pop/rock music.  Or like, ever.

And good shout on Madman Across the Water.  No one seems to know that song but my dad would listen to that album a quite a bit and that song was an instant banger for me hearing it while a wee ole middleschooler.

Robbie Moore

May 23rd, 2022 at 9:26 PM ^

Also with Mountain...

Leslie West (aka Leslie Abel Weinstein) and Felix Pappalardi.

Pappalardi studied classical music at our esteemed U-M and then had a noteworthy, albeit short, career. He produced the Cream album Disraeli Gears and he and his wife wrote the Cream hit Strange Brew. He met a sad end, shot by his wife at age 43. She was convicted of criminally negligent homicide.

Dunder

May 23rd, 2022 at 2:20 PM ^

In the classic rock area: 

Supertramp - first rolled out the clarinet for Even in the Quietest Moments and used the Triangle on Asylum.

Santana - can't even begin to identify all the different drum variations if you ever saw a concert, so I'll say bongos, but that doesn't fully define it, the concerts in the seventies and eighties were three hour non stop epics of different drums and drummers that would roll seamlessly into the songs from the albums. 

drjaws

May 23rd, 2022 at 2:21 PM ^

violin (well, an entire orchestra) in November Rain by Guns and Roses. It's not that it doesn't fit the song, it's just that it was un unexpected sound after listening to Appetite for Destruction then Use Your Illusion 1.

chronic

May 23rd, 2022 at 2:24 PM ^

The Who bassist John Entwistle playing brass on many of their songs. 

Can You See The Real Me

My Wife

etc. 

And their use of a violin solo at the end of Baba O'Riley

and their use of French Horn on Tommy's Overture and It's a Boy

etc.!!!

rob f

May 23rd, 2022 at 6:55 PM ^

Good call, Entwistle was a talented multi-instrumentalist.  Besides being one of the greatest bass guitar players ever, he stood out so often playing the french horn 📯 .

And besides the Baba O'Riley violin solo, there's the frequent use of string instruments on one of my all-time favorite albums, The Who's 'Quadrophenia'.

https://youtu.be/gDbAtWpoA6k

Fishbulb

May 23rd, 2022 at 2:40 PM ^

The recorder on Stairway to Heaven is odd, but it clearly works. 
 

Noel Gallagher had a lass playing the effing scissors on an album and in concert. 

MGoGrendel

May 23rd, 2022 at 3:08 PM ^

Loggins & Messina include a flute in the LP version of Angry Eyes.   7:40 minutes long, but the radio version cuts out the flute making it 4:48 minutes long. 

Grampy

May 23rd, 2022 at 9:31 PM ^

Good call on Angry Eyes (extended version only). The bass through line during the long bridge is perfect. 
you mentioned trombones?  Chicago has the essential three piece horn section which define tight. I saw them at Interlochen last year and horns were the star of the show. 

oriental andrew

May 23rd, 2022 at 3:09 PM ^

Sitar (Indian stringed instrument) in many songs, especially from the 60's starting with the Beatles and Norwegian Wood.

Banjo has been in a bunch of stuff - Take it Easy by the Eagles and... others I can't think of. Also Bela Fleck is a totally rad banjo player. 

 

a2_electricboogaloo

May 23rd, 2022 at 9:38 PM ^

I took a Music Improv class through the residential college back in my freshman year in 2009 (great class, taught by one of the jazz professors with the music school, highly recommend it if its still there.), and for "extra credit" he assigned us to go see Ravi & Anoushka Shankar play at Hill Auditorium (tickets were super cheap for students, like less than $10). It was absolutely insane. Thanks to Mark Kirschenmann for having us go to that.

Zoltanrules

May 24th, 2022 at 12:31 AM ^

https://youtu.be/7F5HND4F6Fo

Fitting this thread of instruments you don't expect ( and work) and the Shankars. This clip of Raga Piloo with classical violinist Patricia Kopatchinskaja and sitarist Anoushka Shankar is out of this world and skillfully mimics the same performance from the mid 60's by Ravi Shankar and Yehoudi Menuhin. 

 

Harlans Haze

May 23rd, 2022 at 3:11 PM ^

I used to associate bagpipes and rock music with Big Country. Then, I found out that the bagpipe sound was derived from engineering the guitar sound, which actually I found to be more impressive and palatable, because I really only want to associate bagpipes with a funeral service, not fist-pumping rock and roll

Since you mentioned "Orchestra", I remembered a take from a critic a few years ago, when ELO had yet to be inducted into the HOF. In his case against ELO being inducted he referred to the band as something akin to an "over-produced pop band", as if that wasn't exactly who they wanted to be and is reflected in just about everything touched by Jeff Lynne. What would you expect from a rock band who puts Orchestra in its title?

BTW, "Breakfast in America" is one of the most overlooked rock records IMO. It's a shame that it's never listed on any great album list. 

WindyCityBlue

May 23rd, 2022 at 3:21 PM ^

Ween.  They typically have quirky alternative rock with basic instruments and a lot of synth when needed.

However, they have a couple things that went way out of their quirky self:

1. They had an entire country album.  I mean legit country music.

2. For the song "Bananas and Blow", they used a calypso based approach and instruments (i.e. steel drum)