OT: Surprise to no one, Star Wars was a fun theatrical experience that you can enjoy with your entire family this Holiday season, unless you're a soul sucking Star Wars snob who thinks you're going to see Fiddler on the fucking Roof
This thread is for people who actually enjoy life and want to discuss the good parts of Star Wars and any other flick you're seeing this time of year.
Call of the Wild looks good. I'm looking forward to seeing that.
December 21st, 2019 at 6:03 PM ^
who hurt you op?
December 21st, 2019 at 6:49 PM ^
He does seem to be dealing with some kind of pain.
December 21st, 2019 at 6:13 PM ^
December 21st, 2019 at 6:30 PM ^
They did ok with the steaming pile of shit that was left to them after the last jedi but nah, it's a middle of the road movie at best. The liberties taken with the force and not evenly applied were silly even for Disney movie standards. Bring on the Black Widow and Top Gun 2 movies please!
December 21st, 2019 at 7:11 PM ^
We should try this trick with the football threads.
December 21st, 2019 at 7:29 PM ^
I enjoyed the movie with my 8 year old. The local theater has Creston Bokonon on tap too, so I win.
December 21st, 2019 at 7:30 PM ^
It was very good. Tied up loose ends, made references to the previous movies, and lots of action! The Star Wars snobs that didn't like it can go suck it!
December 21st, 2019 at 8:32 PM ^
I’m at a cabin in TN with in laws.
...so bored I’m reading every comment in this thread. Riveting and enjoyable.
I’m also leaving food outside our cabin in hopes a bear comes along to entertain us.
December 21st, 2019 at 9:21 PM ^
If you go to see it you'll have an entertaining experience. They spent so much money on it, even if the writing is total hot garbage it'll still look and sound amazing. That said, I totally get why star wars fans are salty about what's been done with star wars. Who would enjoy getting nostalgia bated into buying a ticket, just to have a front row seat to your favorite characters being shit on and killed off? The production clown fiesta didn't inspire confidence in a polished product, either. They got it right with Happy directing the mandalorian, though. Should've had him do the films too.
December 21st, 2019 at 10:09 PM ^
The fan reaction to the prequels killed the Star Wars franchise. Everyone thought they could do better than Lucas. Well, he sold the franchise off to a deep-pocketed company with a history of milking franchises and look what has happened: Star Wars has turned into a POS.
The prequels were pearls before swine. Now the evil mouse has produced swill for the pigs and they gobble it up. It makes me sad because a final trilogy from Lucas probably would have been fantastic but the fan response to the prequels killed any chance for that.
I'm a soul sucking Star Wars snob who once wrote a whole paper about why Revenge of the Sith is not only the best Star Wars film, but also took a mediocre sci-fi franchise and elevated it to high art.
December 22nd, 2019 at 2:51 PM ^
Lucas included a script for VII along with the entire franchise when he sold it to Disney. They chose to scrap it in place of what Abrams came up with for TFA. I would love to see what Lucas came up with. He had good ideas - just was not a great director or screenplay writer. Hence the reason why ESB was such a great film. His greatest fear was someone other than him having ultimate creative control of his creation. In fact, he bankrolled ESB and ROTJ HIMSELF to insure that a studio couldn’t kill his ideas. That’s pretty incredible.
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:59 AM ^
What? Stilted dialogue, midichlorians, wooden Hayden Christiansen, and...Jar-Jar Binks... That's all on Lucas.
The only good prequels were the Clone War episodes.
Disney has a so-so record. They just hired/retained the wrong person to run LucasFilm.
December 21st, 2019 at 11:37 PM ^
The only way the mess created by Episodes VII and VIII could have been fixed would be for Episode IX to begin with Luke waking up in his room at his Jedi Academy, and we learn that everything in the first two sequel films was a dream.
December 23rd, 2019 at 5:00 AM ^
That was my hope as well.
December 22nd, 2019 at 2:11 PM ^
On the other hand.
December 22nd, 2019 at 2:43 PM ^
Some of us actually care about the proper treatment of epic stories and don't like it when "Johnny-come-latelys" decide to play Calvin ball with established characters and story arcs while injecting their own group identity politcs activism throughout the story.
December 23rd, 2019 at 5:20 AM ^
People like you who see everything through a hypersensitive political/social lens about everything are truly tiresome. JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson aren't particularly political directors. Maybe a little more modern as in with a late 20th century/early 21st century sensibility instead of some 1950's era vision on how the world truly is. Now if Ava DuVernay were director, you may have a somewhat valid point, but Abrams and Johnson, no. Secondly, if Rey were a guy and written the way the character was written aka a male all-galactic Mary Sue, would you have enjoyed it more? For me, I wouldn't have enjoyed VII more. If your answer is in the affirmative, then the problem isn't the casting of Daisy Ridley or some other female actress, but you. As for VIII, Rian Johnson basically decided to be an auteur brat and deconstruct Star Wars his way. Activism? I'm not sure. Moronic? Yes. Laura Dern was terrible, Leia should have been gone after being blown out the window, and Rose Tico? She should have been a *stronger* female character instead of pining and whining for Finn.
December 22nd, 2019 at 7:34 PM ^
It was a good movie. I enjoyed it. Not an artsy film, but very entertaining and a great wrap up for the Skywalker saga.
December 25th, 2019 at 4:58 AM ^
As a non-spoiler review I would say that IMHO the movie was great upon first, second, and like Rogue One I am sure it will be even better after multiple viewings. I am also sure the novelization will add even more depth to the character development and world building(also like RO). The pacing of the film was very fast and hard to truly process everything that was happening but the character growth(especially Finn & Poe), CGI, cinematography, and visuals were amazing.
While I agree with most of you in saying TLJ was a bottom half film within the franchise, I also think that a lot of the complaints about the ST are more about fanboys(/persons) being upset that their vision for the saga was not met. I know that most of my complaints about TROS are more about my "vision" than the decisions of the filmmakers and what was best for the mass audience. I personally would've rather have used the EU as a template for the ST, but I also understand Disney's need to wipe the slate clean for storytelling purposes and, I am sure as fans themselves, JJ & RJ did the best they could within the parameters they were given.
My personal complaints of TROS would be(***spoilers ahead***) "the kiss"(take your pick, 1 was complete fan service for the Reylo shippers and the other was completely shoe-horned in, NTTAWWT but I don't think it was necessary just to make social activist happy.), no Hayden on screen(Yes! I think he made a great Anakin. Can't blame HC for his dialogue & direction in the prequels.), and the LAZY ret-conning. Concerning that ret-conning point, I am not against ret-conning per se, I just don't like it when ret-conning is done with no plausible explanation behind the false narrative we were given prior(ie. Boba Fett's origins). What makes it even worse is that Lucas gave the writers a back door to make changes all the way back in 1983 with 6 words, "From a certain point of view". Those words should've allowed Kylo to explain why he told Rey her parents were nobodies, rather than saying "they chose to be nobodies" as he did in TROS. A simpler explanation would've been for Rey to have been a great granddaughter rather than a granddaughter, her mother/father(it was never explicitly stated which of her parents was Palpatine's offspring) being completely unaware of their lineage, her mother/father having disturbing/unexplained visions which drove them & their partner to drink away their madness, and Rey was in fact sold for drinking money just like RJ explained in EP. 8. Then Kylo explains that what he told her was true "from a certain point of view" and while it doesn't make everything better, it does make it more palatable to "the purist" within myself.
After all of that I will reiterate that TROS was an enjoyable experience that I look forward to revisiting and catching all the small details I will miss even after my 100th viewing.
My personal rankings for anyone who cares
1. ESB(of course it is)
2. RO(I HIGHLY recommend the novelization if you enjoyed this film. The backstory and motivations for the supporting characters greatly enhance the emotion in an already highly emotional movie)
3. ROTS(Who doesn't like a dark & tragic film with great 1 on 1 duels?)
Here's where my rankings get controversial
4. TROS(see details above, not perfect but probably the best we could realistically ask for)
5. ANH(changed special effects and the movie going experience forever)
6. Solo(Take it for the heist movie that it is and I think you'll find it a lot more enjoyable. Arguably the best cast of any SW movie that suffered from it's release date and being compared to the story of RO)
7. ROTJ(devalued a bit by the ST as the heroes obviously DID NOT live happily ever after)
8. TFA(complete rehash but easily digestible that brought SW back to our everyday consciousness)
9. TLJ(take out the Canto Bight scenes/Finn's story arc and you have an underrated film IMHO)
10. TPM(Maul, Qui-Gon, and arguably the best score & lightsaber fight of the saga)
11. ATOC(Obi Wan's time to shine but sand being coarse and getting everywhere causes it to bring up the caboose)
12. Clone Wars movie(I love the character of Ashoka, but damn did she have a rough start)
The Clone Wars(TV), Rebels, and The Mandolorian add plenty to the SW universe while Star Wars Resistance adds little and can be ignored without missing out on anything. We'll see what the future holds going forward.
So there is the reviews & opinions of someone whose life was affected and shaped by the Holy Trilogies. In the end however SW is like sex to me, even when SW is bad, it is still pretty damn enjoyable. So my advice would to be enjoy it while it last and hope you can cum again tomorrow haha!
PS. To Gucci Mane, I cried several times also and I knew there was a good reason to defend you in the deceased pets thread last week.(Although I still disagree w/your opinions on pets, I fully support your right to express them without fear of ridicule & persecution)
PSS. Yes! Username checks out haha!