OT: Penn State considering selling stadium naming rights
It will be covered in shame and filth until the sun burns out. They can call it whatever the fuck they want, that won’t change. Maybe they should consider giving the proceeds to the victims.
Those rat bastards believe Sandusky, JoePa, Curley and Schultz were framed and all the victims are liars and lowlifes trying to get a large money hand out.
Why?
Everything the poster said is 100% truth!
Nope, never. The alumni elect Trustees who deny Paterno did anything wrong and some of the Trustees actually believe Sandusky did nothing wrong.
I know our pet Lion here isn't one of those people, but when the others elect apologists there is a cult there and it is vile.
Our pet lion here has been a vocal JoePa supporter in previous posts. Posting history would show that but doesn't seem to go back that far. I'm not buying into his two-faced routine; there's always somewhat a defense of the indefensible from the pet lion.
I assume I am "the pet lion." You are incorrect. I'll leave it at that.
Yes, you are our pet lion here. It's a term of endearment. I don't recall any Paterno support by you so I'll disagree with the Stig on that one.
It’s really not that difficult to hate what happened and those responsible while simultaneously having the utmost respect for NittanyFan.
while simultaneously having the utmost respect for NittanyFan.
You're making it personal. I'm not.
What I AM doing is holding the pet lion accountable for his defense of JoePa and the rest of the degenerate admin, staff, police, faculty, and fanbase. Furthermore, his claim that I'm incorrect is a lie on his part. He's defended the indefensible. Perhaps when you have kids one day you'll understand.
It simply was not just Sandusky. You don't have 30 years of abuse without help. PERIOD.
OK - the "pet lion" is here. Find some post you don't like and I'll discuss. Or respond to this one.
I admit - I've seen some shades of gray. The entire fanbase isn't at fault. The Freeh Report isn't a perfect document and the Paternos aren't incorrect in pointing out its errors & inconsistencies. As opposed to the 1998 & 2001 situations, anything regarding Paterno's knowledge prior to 1998 is mostly based on hearsay. Greg Schiano and Tom Bradley and other PSU staff members have a right, absent more definite proof they knew anything, to continued employment in football.
But for all that, I also see black and white. I 100% believe Joe Paterno morally failed as regards Sandusky. I agree with the Freeh Report's primary conclusion, that JoePa knew about 1998 in 2001, but failed to act. And then failed to act for 10 subsequent years. JoePa failed. He failed the victims, his family & friends, and the entire PSU & State College community. That final sentence is his primary legacy. And as such, he shouldn't be celebrated.
Your post is good, but I have some observations for you...
I agree the entire fanbase is not at fault, but the majority who vote for the alumni trustees put Lubrano on the board. He's a scumbag of the nth degree who constantly defended Paterno and was caught claiming he was on the Penn State baseball team when he wasn't..
Scott and Jay Paterno no better than Lubrano. Both have claimed their father knew nothing of Sandusky's vile behavior. If you are on PennLive look up a commenter there called 'Grandexperiment'. That is Scott Paterno and he has made numerous comments there doubting the honesty of Sandusky's victims and claiming no crimes were committed in PSU facilities by Sandusky. Jay has also claimed on numerous occasions that no crimes were committed in PSU facilities by Sandusky. That is flat out wrong given Sandusky's convictions.
Curley and Spanier had a plan in 2001 to report Sandusky to the DPW. Curley took the plan to Paterno then the plan was shit-canned and Sandusky was never reported to anybody. Something happened in that conversation and we all know the only reasonable conclusion is Paterno talked Curley out of reporting. That is not just a moral error, that is a crime.
The reports from the 1970s were not hearsay. I recall one of the persons claimed he told Paterno Sandusky touched him. That's an eyewitness report. Now whether that claim was legit or not I don't know and it was never used as evidence.
Some of that I agree with, some I disagree.
However, I don't feel the disagreements are major. They're mostly more technical disagreements -- they're "at the margins."
And considering how this web-site now indents posts, those disagreements are literally at the margins!
(that's my way of saying I'm not going to type out a long reply!)
Ok, fair enough.
T Stadium to pair with Rutgers.
Can Michigan buy the rights?
Why not? Michigan already owns the team.
Too funny!!! Seriously, yours is the best comment on MGOBlog today. I salute you.
How fucking hilarious would that be? LMAO!!! Maybe we can persuade Ross and/or Wilpon to donate anonymously to buy the naming rights?
Stephen Ross and Fred Wilpon Memorial Stadium, dedicated to child abuse victims. Each ticket purchase donates a percentage to child abuse recovery and prevention...
Pedialyte?
Franco Harris Field, with Sandusky Slushies for sale in the concession stand.
Do you get a free slapping noise with the slushie?
Eeeewww. Well, I will let the new promoters decide.
Subway Stadium?
Jello Pudding Stadium?
J. Epstein & Company Stadium?
"Joe Pa Knew Stadium"
Look the other way field. They better jump on that name quick before msu claims it.
Jeffrey Epstein Stadium?
I don't think Penn State named their place Michigan Stadium...
A serious reply here --- PSU needs A LOT of $$$ for various Athletic Department capital improvements. Football practice facility, football office complex, soccer stadium, swimming natatorium.
And then there are any Beaver Stadium renovations. That's the big elephant in the room.
Beaver Stadium definitely needs upgraded concourses, restrooms and concessions. There is no doubt about that.
Expanded chair-back seating also seems to be part of the plans, but I could not care less about that. You are there to watch football, not an opera!
PSU would likely also do a face lift on the exterior. Although that's another thing I could not care less about. Yes, it has an "erector set" look but I've come to embrace it. It's just the way the stadium was expanded. It was literally moved across campus to its current spot at one point.
So .... maybe the stadium naming rights are sold. It would provide income. The 2 unknowns are (1) how does fundraising go (supposedly it is good thus far), and (2) how many Beaver Stadium renovations do they commit to.
The Big Ten distribution for 2019 alone is projected to be over $55 million. There is no excuse for any Big Ten school to sell naming rights to any of their buildings. There's plenty of money; it's just that the athletic departments are wizards at creatively making it disappear.
Sure - but there's still a disparity in revenue amongst schools and selling naming rights is an easy way for some of the laggards to play catch up.
It's no accident that MD and Rutgers are the 2 B1G schools that have succumbed. Also, their stadiums had un-well known names.
The University of Cincinnati might be an interesting case. They could use the $$$ - BUT Nippert Stadium has a pretty historic name.
Your "revenue laggard" is my "failed a course in community values," but your point is taken. Then again, nobody cares what they call the stadium in College Park, and, well, SHI Stadium is a name that will keep on giving until the company declares bankruptcy. People care about the names at places that actually have tradition, including PSU. And if PSU has money issues, I've got to assume it's Sandusky fallout (legal fees, etc.). The business of PSU Athletics -- merchandising, media rights, ticket sales, etc. -- is doing just fine.
Maryland and Rutgers excepted, since they're not getting a full media share yet, any Big Ten AD that cries poverty is either lying or absolutely terrible/terrific at their job, depending upon whether you believe that their job is to keep the budget balanced or to spend a lot of money in order to hide the profits that a non-profit isn't supposed to have.
Good post. A bit tangential, but here's an anecdote: PSU has 1 AD, 2 Deputy Director ADs, 3 Senior Associate ADs, 5 Associate ADs and 4 Assistant ADs.
15 ADs of some sort - it's like a bank, everyone is a VP!
And I guess that hints at the core of the problem. These people DO view it as a bank.
(Ohio State, looking at their on-line directory, is just as bloated. MSU is worse!)
That's any company. Once you've worked there for so long they create VP title for you.
Honestly, no one will care in a year. They’ll call it whatever they want to (I know people who still call Comerica “Tigers Stadium”) and aside from a giant stupid logo that no one will really notice, everything will proceed as normal. That being said I would frown on Michigan selling the naming rights, but I’m relatively sure they don’t need the $
Fuck Penn State and their need for renovation. They should have been kicked out of the B1G.
I would chain myself to the gates of The Big House and declare a hunger strike if we ever did that.
Have you already planned out which Michigan gear you'd wear for the occasion?
Hopefully the Hypercolor one so we know when he's REALLY mad.
I’m still waiting to see the sweat activated clothing in everyday use.
Completing the transformation to the most corporate atmosphere of any college team.
Erector Set Field?
Fuck Penn State Stadium?
Anything that would piss off that POS Scott Paterno. JoePa knew might work nicely.
If one sponsored macaroni noodle on the grounds of the stadium pissed us off, the athletic department better be well aware that this shouldn’t even be a conversation.
State Pen Stadium
Horseplay Stadium.
WeRapeKids.com Stadium.
Has a nice ring to it.
Ever
These are the kinds of things a university needs to do , when they have to pay out millions of dollars to victims of abhorrent crimes . Done by workers of that University and covered up by the people in charge .
So Sparty, this is your future .
Penn State Farm Stadium
Sandusky Shower Stadium
Park at the Pedo Pavilion