XM - Mt 1822

April 11th, 2024 at 12:10 PM ^

when we played in NY they put us up in the downtown athletic club, the place they awarded the Heisman trophy.   they had a special heisman room where the whole team ate.  all the heisman winners had their pictures up on the ornate, wood-carved walls.   

well, all the pictures except one, who was missing.... 

XM - Mt 1822

April 11th, 2024 at 2:58 PM ^

we never went back to play NY after 9-11.  in fact, they came out to socal to play us as was usual, swapping home and away games and then i retired and we came back home.   it was my understanding that the actual building of  the downtown athletic club survived 9-11, but that it was not in a condition for continued use.  maybe somebody here with more familiarity can fill in.  

Mike Jones

April 11th, 2024 at 3:10 PM ^

I remember walking by it by accident in the late 90's, it was 1/2 a block south of the World Trade Center Marriott and had that iconic awning that was always shown on TV when they had the ceremony.  I though it had closed, and per Wikipedia it never reopened after 9/11 and is now condos.  

Mike Jones

April 11th, 2024 at 12:33 PM ^

Oh yes, if you are old enough,  'pulling an OJ' was the term for making a mad dash through the airport to catch a plane.  That went away after the murders.  Not to mention with post-9/11 security measures, you'd probably get tackled anyway.  

(oops, meant to make this a reply to the old Hertz commercial someone shared)

ShadowStorm33

April 11th, 2024 at 1:05 PM ^

Oh yes, if you are old enough,  'pulling an OJ' was the term for making a mad dash through the airport to catch a plane.

Had an experience like that back in 2016. Was catching the last flight out of BWI to Detroit the Friday night before a September game, taking the MARC from DC to BWI. The stop before the BWI transfer (Odenton I think), the train stops as normal, but doesn't leave. We sit, and sit, and sit. watching the clock, wondering what's going on (found out later someone committed suicide on the tracks). Eventually four of us complete strangers went together on an Uber to take us to the airport. I got there 35 minutes before takeoff, thankfully there was literally no one waiting at security, and I sprinted through the airport to the gate to make my flight...

Hab

April 11th, 2024 at 11:18 AM ^

Avoiding these threads like Blake Corum jump-cutting through the Ohio State and Alabama defensive lines.

ed: mods - wtf is up with inserting pics?

Don

April 11th, 2024 at 12:38 PM ^

Like many others here, I've been a daily user of the internet since its early days, and the amount of time I've spent on stock photo & illustration websites, news & political websites, commercial sales sites, blogs, and social media platforms for both business and pleasure would probably horrify me if I were able to total it all up.

In all that time, I've never encountered a website with as many weird basic functionality problems as MGoBlog. I'm not a tech guy, but having had some experience in working on the design of a website programmed in Drupal—which was a clunky, clumsy platform to design for—I wonder if that's part of the problem.

Nervous Bird

April 11th, 2024 at 12:41 PM ^

That's an odd analogy. Milam and Bryant were racist killers buoyed and supported by a racist system that encouraged targeting innocent people.

OJ killings were boilerplate domestic violence. And, the acquittals were completely different, as well. An all white jury acquitted racists, while a multiracial jury acquitted an obsessive ex-husband.

Maybe instead of trying to prove that... whatever you're trying to prove, you could maybe 'celebrate' OJ's death with that of Claus Von Bulow, or Robert Durst, or Robert Blake, etc...

Teddy Bonkers

April 11th, 2024 at 11:22 AM ^

From web:

“CTE can lead to impulsive and aggressive behavior, sometimes contributing to a cycle of abuse—and it can only be diagnosed after death.”

I'd be interested to see the results if they study his brain. 

ShadowStorm33

April 11th, 2024 at 11:35 AM ^

Not trying to make excuses for it, or suggest that it contributed (in OJ's case, or otherwise), but at least a few murder-suicides come to mind where CTE was present and has been speculated to have played a role. E.g.:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/14/us/phillip-adams-nfl-cte/index.html

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/998526/what-we-learned-about-chris-benoits-brain-after-his-death/

Teddy Bonkers

April 11th, 2024 at 11:36 AM ^

Agreed. And he should have been locked up for the rest of his life. 

Also back then nobody talked about CTE, seemed pretty obvious at the time he was the murderer, I wonder how confident his lawyers were going into the trial. If this had occurred in 2019 instead of 1995 would the lawyer's have tried to shift blame to CTE and gone for a lighter sentence... Although perhaps there's no avenue to make that work in the defense's favor, there's no way the CTE is going away. 

Regardless I'm curious to know much indication of brain damage he has. 

ShadowStorm33

April 11th, 2024 at 1:07 PM ^

Also back then nobody talked about CTE, seemed pretty obvious at the time he was the murderer, I wonder how confident his lawyers were going into the trial.

That's a really interesting question. Have no way of knowing how confident they were, and honestly I bet they couldn't in their wildest dreams have expected the prosecution to make so many mistakes. They very well may have taken the CTE/insanity defense today feeling like it had a higher chance of success than getting a straight acquittal...

goblu330

April 11th, 2024 at 11:24 AM ^

I believe that OJ was the murderer, but I also am not as sure as most other people are.  Without an opportunity to further "sanitize" his vehicle and his home, it seems nearly impossible that there would not have been far more blood than was found.  What they found was miniscule.  Additionally, while he was not making particularly virulent efforts to make them fit, it was quite clear that those gloves were not the size he would have worn.

There is a doubt.  I do not know if it is a reasonable one.

Magnus

April 11th, 2024 at 11:33 AM ^

I get what you're saying about doubt, but before I go out to work in the garden, I don't always spend a ton of timing finding the best-fitting gloves to pull weeds. Sometimes I just want to get it done and will squeeze my hands into any reasonable sized glove to get the job done.

ShadowStorm33

April 11th, 2024 at 12:46 PM ^

Come on now, that's just hyperbole. If there was zero doubt, how the hell was he acquitted? I'm not even sure you can bungle a case that badly (unless you're trying to, and even then...), at least when there's evidence to present (as opposed to where all the evidence has been excluded). It's highly likely (almost certain?) OJ was the killer, but like pretty much every other case out there, there was at least some semblance of doubt or things that didn't quite add up...