OT - NFL DRAFT. YOUR PICKS AND WHERE DO OUR GUYS GI?

Submitted by Mineral King on December 22nd, 2019 at 7:10 PM

xtramelanin

December 23rd, 2019 at 5:49 AM ^

i hope folks appreciate sopwith's reference to the original jack black and ceelo green masterpiece, 'everybody was kung fu fighting'.  

Everybody is Kung Fu fighting,
Your mind becomes fast as lightning
Although the future is a little bit frightening
(little bit frightening)
It's the book of your life that you're writing
(life that you're writing)

You're a diamond in the rough,
A brilliant ball of clay.
You could be a work of art,
If you just go all the way.
Now what would it take to break?
I believe that you can bend,
Not only do you have to fight,
But you have got to win

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Jack Be Nimble

December 22nd, 2019 at 10:11 PM ^

It is not uncommon for corners to be taken in the top 5. It happened in 2018 (Denzel Ward), 2016 (Jalen Ramsey), and 2011 (Patrick Peterson). I only checked back to 2010, but I don't think that's an unrepresentative sample. Considering how many positions there are, corners seem to be valued pretty highly. And as pro offenses have become more and more focused on the passing game, corners are becoming even more valuable than they used to be.

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Perkis-Size Me

December 22nd, 2019 at 10:12 PM ^

I think Nico is gone. Right now I say somewhere in the second round, but if he has a big game against Alabama he could sneak into the tail end of the first. Maybe. There’s a ton of great wideouts coming out this year so that’s going against him. He’s got the prototypical NFL size, and while he doesn’t have gamebreaking speed, he’s fast enough.

DPJ I’d say is a coin flip. He doesn’t have the production but he’s also a guy who could bet on himself, show up at the Combine, knock his tests out of the park a la David Long, and get drafted on Day 2. He’s got all the physical attributes an NFL receiver needs. And the gamebreaking speed that Nico doesn’t have.

Shea is probably a Day 3 guy, but who knows, with a big game against Alabama maybe he goes on Day 2. His height (or lack thereof) will hurt him.

Bredeson goes in the 2nd. 

Uche I'm guessing is a late Day 2 / early Day 3 guy.

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Clarence Boddicker

December 23rd, 2019 at 3:04 AM ^

 Sigh. Collins was unstoppable this year, but the bitching never stops. This is from the PFF article posted above this.
 

23. Shea Patterson, Michigan Wolverines

Year: Senior

Patterson continually teases top-end talent, but even with a loaded receiving corps this season, he never quite has made the leap. He has been accurate on only 44.9% of his throws past the line of scrimmage, 104th in the country.

 

"A loaded receiving corps." Who do you think they're referring to? Collins is certainly one. And, for the last time, HE WAS HINDERED BY AN INCONSISTENT AND INACCURATE QB BUT STILL BALLED OUT!

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DHughes5218

December 22nd, 2019 at 11:30 PM ^

I think Nico and DPJ are taking a bigger risk by coming back. Unless we have improvement at the QB position, which I doubt, their stats could be worse next year. At least this year you can excuse the lack of production for being a little young and raw with tons of upside. 

If they come back they will be four year guys who didn’t get the on field results. I’m not sure if the line will be better, worse, or about the same, but I’m a little concerned about the QB position right now. I guess we’ll see who in the spring or summer, who emerges there.

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TrueBlue2003

December 23rd, 2019 at 12:39 AM ^

I agree that Nico is taking a risk, but his is injury risk.  He's probably a second round receiver as a big, tall jump ball maestro but his lack of top end speed probably keeps him out of the first round regardless.  

NFL teams know what he is at this point. If the QB position limits his productivity next year, they won't hold it against him.  I personally think he'll be more productive because I think the offensive coaching staff figured some things out half way through this year.  In his first five games this year he didn't have more than three catches and only had 13 total catches.  In his last six games he had 20 catches, despite only having one against ND because M didn't throw the ball and he had two games of six catches so even if the QB isn't as good, he's going to have more 33 catches if he comes back.

DPJ on the other hand, can improve his stock a lot, IMO.  He was plagued by drops this year (several against PSU, big one in the endzone against OSU, etc.).  His combo of size and speed are first round worthy but I don't he's demonstrated good hands and he can improve that next year (unless he just has the drops which would limit his ceiling). I think he too will get more targets next year.

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