OT: First trailer for 'Concussion' movie
This movie looks like sopmething people on this board would be interested in seeing. It's about Bennet Omalu, the doctor who discovered CTE and opened a can of worms for the NFL.
August 31st, 2015 at 9:43 AM ^
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August 31st, 2015 at 10:43 AM ^
Agree, unless it is a "Star Wars" or "Avengers" similar epic blockbuster these dramas are not worth seening on a big screen. Unless it is a date night and you are forced to go...
August 31st, 2015 at 12:54 PM ^
A film that looks by it's trailer to be devoid of any subtlety, treating a serious subject like a sledgehammer, featurng an evil corporation (always easy to do, if seldom accurate) trampling on the little man. I hope the actual film has a more accursate and even handed approach
August 31st, 2015 at 1:12 PM ^
won't. That movie appears to be The Insider 2 with the NFL standing in for big tobacco.
August 31st, 2015 at 3:26 PM ^
...in the Frontline Documentary, "League of Denial."
Dr. was interviewed extensively in that, too.
August 31st, 2015 at 9:48 AM ^
I've got to believe football helmets are going to change. That hard outer shell doesn't make sense. External padding wouldn't completely solve the problem but it would soften the impact of collisions somewhat.
August 31st, 2015 at 9:50 AM ^
That's the opposite of the truth. Soft padding on the outside would just ensure that all the energy of the hit is transmitted into the helmet/head instead of some of it being redirected.
Helmet design definitely needs a lot of work, but the hard externum is guaranteed to remain.
August 31st, 2015 at 9:53 AM ^
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August 31st, 2015 at 9:58 AM ^
This is true, although again the mobile shell would still be more effective if made of a hard material. Soft material acts to "catch" the impact of a glancing blow, causing much greater forces on the brain relative to a hard shell that deflects most of the impact energy.
August 31st, 2015 at 10:28 AM ^
A hard shell does not 'deflect' anything. Where would it deflect to? The force goes straight into the persons head.
The exact same force is transferred to the head either way. Soft padding is there so that the time that it takes for that force to run it's course is lengthened instead of all it going straight to the head, a cushion (more slowly) absorbs the force before transferring it to the head (still much slower). Brain injuries occur when the head experiences rapid accel/deccel. Slowing that process down would reduce injuries.
August 31st, 2015 at 9:59 AM ^
But the hit itself shouldn't have as much impact, right? If you're hit by a foam-covered object it doesn't strike you with the same impact as a blunt one. My thinking is that this would help reduce trauma from sub-concussive hits.
The handful of guys who wore these seemed to be okay:
August 31st, 2015 at 10:10 AM ^
whatever happened to these? I remember when they came out that they were supposed to be a head injury mitigation device.
August 31st, 2015 at 10:22 AM ^
August 31st, 2015 at 12:19 PM ^
lots of teams wear them in practice.
August 31st, 2015 at 9:58 AM ^
New cars come with all kinds of deformable materials, crumple zones, etc. They're designed to be destroyed in a crash, keeping the occupants safe. Old 50's tanks would be unscathed in a crash, but the occupants severly injured. It would seem that a softer shell would be better able to absorb energy.
Of course this doesn't account for the reusability of a helmet. If you are able to replace a helmet every play then something like styrofoam would work, but that's not sustainable.
August 31st, 2015 at 10:00 AM ^
The external shell of modern helmets does actually give quite a bit, and the soft padding below it is roughly analogous to a car's crumple zones.
I agree that it's counterintuitive, but the research on this subject is clear.
August 31st, 2015 at 9:50 AM ^
of movies made essentially about current events when they are still current. There is a strong tendency to rely the current tide of public perception about a topic and let it guide the narrative. It looks well made and it certainly has a strong cast but I think this movie will actually be more readily dismissed than expected. It will make some money and Will Smith will get another notch under his belt but I don't expect this film to be a cultural fascination.
August 31st, 2015 at 9:54 AM ^
But Will Smith makes pretty entertaining movies. I'll see it but I doubt it will have any impact.
August 31st, 2015 at 10:08 AM ^
This is always a good attitude to have, but particularly when we are still gathering information, and it is way too early to make conclusions--other than the common sense conclusion that there are definitely risks involved in playing football, including long term brain risks.
August 31st, 2015 at 12:32 PM ^
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August 31st, 2015 at 9:51 AM ^
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August 31st, 2015 at 10:06 AM ^
Time and time again we see big organizations walk down this road, it seems.
Admit there is an issue and work to mitigate it. People like football. They'll work with you. If you instead work to bury or minimize it and you may end up becoming the giant corporate boogeyman.
August 31st, 2015 at 10:15 AM ^
The NFL league office is definitely not terribly bright - but its marketing wing is. There could be an interesting tug-of-war here.
August 31st, 2015 at 11:12 AM ^
The NFL already is the giant corporate boogeyman. I don't know how many people could read Gregg Easterbrooks' "The King of Sports" and feel differently.
After seeing the trailer, I have a hunch one criticism of the film may be that it makes NFL owners and brass to be too cartoony evil. Again, I think if anyone reads Easterbrook (and researches his findings), they will not have a lot of sympathy for that potential portrayal of the league.
August 31st, 2015 at 10:04 AM ^
I like Will Smith as an actor.
August 31st, 2015 at 11:16 AM ^
I normally don't but this looks like it might be a very intriguing performance.
August 31st, 2015 at 10:21 AM ^
Weird first post, but have to start somewhere. I've wondered why woodpeckers don't get concussions. Seeing how they bash their faces into trees for food. Maybe someone should look into that.
August 31st, 2015 at 10:24 AM ^
August 31st, 2015 at 10:30 AM ^
I knew a girl in school that could do that. NFL should contact her.
August 31st, 2015 at 10:35 AM ^
There's the weird tongue thing and there's also a layer of spongy platelike bone mesh inside their skulls.
It's probably worth studying the mantis shrip for inspiration too.
August 31st, 2015 at 3:14 PM ^
Remember the episode of the SImpsons where Homer became a professional boxer after they discovered he had an extra-thick layer of fluid surrounding his brain, and thus couldn't be knocked out? Food for thought...
August 31st, 2015 at 10:24 AM ^
Good to see an exact replica of Heinz Field was rebuilt after Bane blew it up
August 31st, 2015 at 11:04 AM ^
August 31st, 2015 at 11:20 AM ^
Ah yes, the soccer stuff from those who don't recognize per capita.
August 31st, 2015 at 11:24 AM ^
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August 31st, 2015 at 11:12 AM ^
Will is tryna chase after that Oscar, huh? Gotta give him props for actually not playing the same damn character for the first time in a while...
August 31st, 2015 at 11:33 AM ^
August 31st, 2015 at 4:22 PM ^
Looks good. Will Smith is really aging now and its good to see him take this type of role to suit his image.
