OT: The Best TV Characters of 21st Century bracket (The Ringer)

Submitted by BeatOSU52 on April 2nd, 2020 at 1:21 PM

The Ringer put out a traditional March Madness style bracket of 64 of Best TV Characters of 21st Century bracket (according to them) earlier this week.  It's been decided by fan voting for whom advances.   It's currently in the Elite 8, and the voting ends each evening. 

https://www.theringer.com/tv/2020/4/2/21203660/best-tv-character-of-the-century-bracket-results-elite-eight

Here's a screen-shot of the final 8 

 

 

 A few thoughts:

-Don Draper as a 5 seed was bullshit.  Should've been a 1 seed . Swap him with #1 seed Tyrion Lannister.

-Stringer Bell should've been in the tournament.  Randy Marsh probably too.

-I bet the winner of Omar Little and Michael Scott will win the whole thing.  

-The Millennials region is pretty damn week, especially when Fleabag and Seth Cohen got knocked out in the first round

BeatOSU52

April 2nd, 2020 at 1:32 PM ^

Yea they both had to be in the same region with how they did it with the regions specified to the characters.   I also forgot to mention that there's a limit of 3 characters per show.  Otherwise possibly Gustavo Fring maybe would've been on the list, but perhaps they could've just got around that since Better Call Saul just has two character (Saul Goodman and Kim Wexler) and he's in that

 

Also think Joe MacMillion from Halt and Catch Fire deserved to be on this list, but that show had such low viewerships that that may have gone into consideration somewhat in making the list, even though it should've have.

BeatOSU52

April 2nd, 2020 at 8:58 PM ^

I love The Simpsons (I still watch every new episode ) but some of may have just been because of how much it peaked in the 90’s.  Like I said,  I still watch new episodes and enjoy ,  but that’s be honest Homer was way better in the 90s. That being said,  I wouldn’t have minded if he was still on there and would’ve blindly voted for him 

MichiganStan

April 2nd, 2020 at 1:34 PM ^

Walter White meeting Tony Soprano in the elite 8 is bullshit. 

This is the REAL championship 

Both characters were cast and performed to perfection. 

DrMantisToboggan

April 2nd, 2020 at 1:52 PM ^

Unpopular opinion: Breaking Bad wasn't good and there isn't a single strong character in the show.

I held off on watching it forever - not really intentionally, I just didn't watch it live, and never got around to binging it.

Fast forward to now, having a lot of time at home I decided to binge it, and......wtf you guys? People liked this show? It was really, really mediocre for 4 seasons. The final season was better, but I'm not sure if that was just relative to the first 4 seasons. The finale wasn't very good.

Pinkman is the best character in the show, and even he exhibits very little growth and is fairly shallow. I just didn't get the interest in the show at all. Wouldn't recommend it over the shows that are the best of the last couple years, let alone the best of all time.

BeatOSU52

April 2nd, 2020 at 1:59 PM ^

I love both shows about the same as both are in my top tier of all-time favorite shows, but I will say one thing Better Call Saul has an advantage over Breaking Bad is it has an extremely strong and well-developed female lead (Kim Wexler), which Breaking Bad never had (although I never hated Skyler as much as others did, but that's a whole different side-topic)

lostwages

April 2nd, 2020 at 3:17 PM ^

Wow UofM people talking about Breaking Bad as "ART"... now I know why you fail.

Not only was the writing piss poor, the acting was horrible, cinematography was horrible, and nothing about it was prolific in any sort of way. It was just like 99% of the garbage fed to low borns on a daily basis via the TV....shock value, that's it. It's akin to Jerry Springer...

 

 

 

ScruffyTheJanitor

April 2nd, 2020 at 2:23 PM ^

I'll do you one better: Mad Men is just too damn boring -- and I am a guy that likes boring. I watched the first four seasons with my wife, and it was a damn slog the whole way. 

The first season was soild enough I guess, but all of the characters are (somehow) boring sociopaths. Many of the episodes end with an anticlimatic thud-- which apparently no one notices because of the great soundtrack. 

The other issue: too many bad actors in key roles. January Jones might be the worst actor in the world. I've never understood how Elizabeth Moss gets any starring roles; she's possibly the most bland actress I have ever seen. 

The worst, though, is John Hamm. He's been OK in some other roles, and he does have a few good moments in this show, but he's basically a wooden plank for most of the show. His idea of showing "Emotions" is looking constipated-- the more emotional, the more stopped up he looks. 

I DO NOT understand why this show was or is beloved. 

 

Blue Middle

April 2nd, 2020 at 2:55 PM ^

I'm with you here.  It was a fine show, but, for me, the most overrated show of all time.  Mad Men was another disappointment.

FWIW, The Office, The Wire, The West Wing, GoT, The Sopranos, Southpark, Family Guy, Frasier, Martin, Fresh Prince, Narcos (seasons 1 &2), Parks & Rec, Curb...those are probably my favorites.  Saved by the Bell was a childhood fave.

DrMantisToboggan

April 2nd, 2020 at 3:17 PM ^

Love The Office and Parks & Rec, in my top shows for sure. I like Curb, slowly starting to watch that more (huge Seinfeld and Larry David fan, just never started Curb until now).

Never got into GoT or Narcos. I had zero desire to watch GoT whatsoever, after years of holding out my wife finally got me to watch a season, and the first season did nothing for me. Kind of the same with Narcos - I finally caved to see why everyone liked it and it just did nothing for me. Not sure why, but the drug cartel shows just don't excite me. 

b618

April 2nd, 2020 at 2:06 PM ^

I don't know two thirds of the characters.

Some of my various favorites since year 2000 that would never make such a list:

-- Count Olaf (A Series of Unfortunate Events)

-- Moss (The IT Crowd)

-- Oliver (Legion)

-- Titus Pullo (Rome)

-- Atia (Rome)

-- Joe MacMillan (Halt and Catch Fire)

-- Sterling Archer (Archer)

-- Killface (Frisky Dingo)

-- Henry VIII (The Tudors)

-- Master Shake (Aqua Teen Hunger Force)

 

b618

April 2nd, 2020 at 4:40 PM ^

During the zombie apocalypse, you can check some of those series out.  They are very good and outside the realm of Dr. Lawyer Cop, MD.

Rome is a high-budget HBO series about Rome from the time of Julius Caesar onward.  Marvelous actors.  Well written.  Lots of ribaldry (it's an HBO series, after all).  Lots of plot action.  Not hugely historically accurate -- is sort of to Rome what Sopranos is to the mafia.

The Tudors is a Showtime series cast in the HBO mold about Henry VIII:  high budget, excellent actors, well written, highly entertaining, lots of plot action, too adult to watch with kids around, etc.

Halt and Catch Fire is a marvelous fictional series with characters who wind their ways through all the significant events of the microcomputer revolution.

The IT Crowd is a hilarious British comedy, loved by people who ever had any exposure to IT work.  It's sort of like The Office, but specifically around IT.

A Series of Unfortunate events is quirky.  It's sort of a kids' show (sort of because it's got all kinds of stuff for adults in it as well) -- but Neil Patrick Harris is just freaking amazing in it.  I watch it for his performances.

Legion is a trippy science fiction/fantasy show unlike just about anything else.  People who don't like weird things won't like it.  If you like David Lynch films, 1st season Twin Peaks, Terry Gilliam films, weirder anime, etc., you might love it.

Archer is an animated series.  Hilarious if you like snarky humor.  It's from Adult Swim.  Same for Frisky Dingo and Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

 

 

tspoon

April 2nd, 2020 at 2:38 PM ^

Oh you have to be joking.  I loved each of those other characters, but she was correctly referred to throughout the series as a "monster."  Start naming the list of "bad guys" ever to bring to fruition more thoroughly devastating vengeance than Cersei in Season 6 ... after being in the absolute gutter at the end of Season 5. 

She is the most-evil member of one of the most conniving and dastardly families in TV history ... not to mention that each of her incest-spawned children dies a shocking death, with her picking herself back up and trudging on ... because all that matters to Cersei is Cersei.  She may be the most ruthlessly self-obsessed person in TV history.  I'd say that's interesting.  (Despicable, but captivating.)