OT: Best college program to never win in Big 3 sports?

Submitted by DoubleB on June 25th, 2023 at 7:53 PM

After Florida's win today at the CWS, tomorrow night they will attempt to become the first program to win multiple championships in football, men's basketball, and baseball.

That got me thinking. What is the "best" sports program to never win a championship in any of those three sports?

One Armed Bandit

June 25th, 2023 at 8:08 PM ^

I know this is from Wikipedia but it states:

As of the conclusion of the 2021–22 school year, only two of the soon-to-be sixty-nine Power Five conference schools have never won a National Championship in any of the team sports - Kansas State of the Big 12 and Virginia Tech of the ACC.

So, that's the apparent answer.

L'Carpetron Do…

June 26th, 2023 at 1:50 PM ^

Right - I saw this a few months ago in a NYT article and it was notable because K-State and V-Tech have never won a national title in ANY sport, which I think is crazy. K-State is a small-ish school and it looks like they only have 6 men's sports and don't have wrestling (surprisingly)  or men's soccer. And they only have 8 women's sports. Virginia Tech has 22 varsity sports but I guess they just never had success even before they joined the ACC. Maybe they've should've kept their lacrosse program - they might have been able to sneak in a championship at some point. And today, they'd likely be a national power like every other ACC program. 

If I recall correctly - that NYT article also claimed that Pitt had never won a national championship which is actually totally wrong. Pitt claims numerous national championships in football back in the old days. But I guess the article meant that they'd never won a championship in a sport other than football? Which I think is true?

RobM_24

June 25th, 2023 at 8:08 PM ^

Apparently Virginia Tech and Kansas State haven't won't a team championship in any team sport. Mississippi State was on that list prior to their baseball championship in 2021.

JonnyHintz

June 25th, 2023 at 9:02 PM ^

“Their” big 3 and “the” big 3 are two different things. Hockey is undoubtedly bigger at many northern/northeastern schools than baseball is, including at UofM.

 

On a national scale, nobody is going to consider a sport with ~60 teams one of the “big 3,” especially when you consider the fact that a decent chunk of the D1 hockey programs are D2 in the other sports (Ferris State, LSSU, and Northern Michigan to name a few)

Grampy

June 26th, 2023 at 8:17 AM ^

He won titles at Okie State in the mid-40s, when the game was dominated by East Coast teams.  He was the coach of the Olympic team that got screwed by the refs at the Munich Olympics.  He was reported to be tougher than a $2 steak.

BursleyHall82

June 25th, 2023 at 8:18 PM ^

Here's the follow-up to that question. What are the only four programs which have won a national championship in all three of those sports (baseball, men's basketball and football)?

Answer: UCLA, Florida, Ohio State and, of course, Michigan.

When you throw in hockey, the list narrows down to just one: Michigan.

Vasav

June 26th, 2023 at 10:45 AM ^

If you add softball but not hockey, it's UCLA, Florida and Michigan. None of us 3 has won a WBB title, and all 3 of us had been to the elite 8.

I believe that Maryland is the only school to have won a natty in football and men's and women's basketball, altho ND  may have done it too before the NCAA tourney existed.

RobM_24

June 25th, 2023 at 8:58 PM ^

They have the most combined championships for teams with 2 or more in each basketball & football too (ahead of Florida).

For combined championships of teams with 1 or more in each football and basketball, Michigan [11&1] is tied with UCLA [1&11] (followed by Ohio State [8&1] and MSU [4&2]).

DrAwkward

June 25th, 2023 at 8:56 PM ^

West Virginia University, my new home, claims a basketball title in 1942 (NIT), but it has never won a natty in baseball, football, or basketball in the ncaa march madness era.

NittanyFan

June 25th, 2023 at 11:04 PM ^

This is, IMO, the correct answer to the question.

West Virginia (WVU) ranks 22nd all-time in college football wins, and ranks 20th all-time in college basketball wins.  That's pretty high up there in both.  But if we're not counting the NIT from back in the day, they don't have a Big 3 National Title.

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FWIW, the only schools to be in the Top 22 for all-time wins in both football and basketball are WVU, Notre Dame and Texas.  Not a huge list.

BTB grad

June 26th, 2023 at 10:54 AM ^

Another piece that adds to a great trivia question: most of the key players from the 1949-50 team that won those 2 titles were implicated a year later in the CCNY point shaving scandal. All of the schools involved had their basketball programs permanently decimated (CCNY, NYU, Long Island U, Manhattan College, Bradley, Toledo) except one. Kentucky was the other school involved and they were able recover after cancelling one season of play, likely because they were already on their way to being a power with 3 national titles and 4 final fours under their belt. 

I always thought it was weird NYU didn’t have a D1 basketball team as they have a student body the size of a flagship public university and are in “the Mecca of basketball”. Learning this fun fact finally solved that for me.