OT: Belichick Out In New England At End Of Season?

Belichick the coach is still pretty good but he's a mediocre-to-bad GM and Brady covered up for that a number of years.  I think he can still win in this league but the Patriots just don't have the type of talent you need to do so without an amazing QB.

I think when they kept Brady and sent Jimmy G packing, the writing was kind of on the wall. Brady would stick around for a couple more years and the Pats would need to have a replacement by then. They didn't have one for understandable reasons. Then they made a bet on Mac Jones. It didn't really work out. The NFL is designed to have teams rise and fall, and without replacing Brady with a top 10 starter the team was always going to take a nosedive.

The Pats had to ask themselves then if they wanted Belichick be the one to do the rebuild. I guess that sounded good in theory but perhaps less good when the team loses every week and a market with 30 somethings who've never known a losing football team starts complaining bitterly.

I don't think it detracts from the core of Belichick's legacy really. It was inevitable it'd end this way when he didn't take any of the obvious chances to retire at the top.

I can see how this one plays out:

• New England lets Belichick go at the end of the regular season.
• Dallas plays San Francisco at some point in the playoffs.
• San Francisco beats Dallas 41-10 in that playoff game.
• Jerry Jones becomes irate after the beatdown, and fires Mike McCarthy.
• Jones offer Belichick something crazy like $50MM a year to become Cowboys HC - Bill takes it.

I don't anticipate Dallas wins a Super Bowl after that, but Jones - who is getting old himself (he's now 81) has to feel the clock ticking himself.

"Click Bait Curran" is about as reliable as "Fake News Florio"!  Anything to be part of the story.  This loser should get down on his hand and knees, put his ample ass in the air and thank god that Belichick and Brady arrived when they did.  Instead of cashing checks on becoming a "cottage industry as a Pats insider!!" this useless POS hack would still be covering Marshfield v Duxbury on Friday nights for the Patriot Ledger. 

The Brady/Belichick era had a secret weapon beyond a great QB and head coach:  They played in a very weak division.  For almost all of the Patriots "golden era," the Dolphins, Jets and Bills were weak teams--so the path to a division championship was easier for them than most of the rest of the league.

Add in those six games against weak opponents, and the door was open to a high playoff seed.  (5-1 in the division and 6-4 in other games gets to 11-5, for example).

I think the benefit of this is very underrated in looking at Brady and Belichick's careers.  I also don't think it's an accident that Brady headed to the NFC South when he left NE.

Tom Brady was an all-time great quarterback, but Bill Belichick is also an all-time great coach. His teams were often better on defense than offense. His innovations with defensive personnel have helped define the modern game.

Mac Jones is not a good quarterback. Bailey Zappe has some skills, but no sense of the pocket. So he's had a couple of bad years now. Many decent teams have struggled when the quarterback room had no good option.

Belichick is 71. That's a lot older than Shula or Landry were when they retired. He and Pete Carroll are closing in on the mark for oldest head coach in NFL history (73). I don't know how they do it - maybe Belichick can't do as much as he used to do.

Average coach? Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. He's going to be in HoF, very much deserved.

Belichick could have retired after winning the Super Bowl for the 2018 season. He was already 66, and his reputation as perhaps the greatest coach in NFL history was secure. He certainly knew that Brady wasn’t going to last forever, and retiring then would have meant going out on top. Nobody would have faulted him for calling it quits. He would have been a hero in NE forever. He certainly didn’t need the money.

Instead, he keeps coaching. Brady leaves, the team gradually worsens to the point of missing the playoffs, and now people are pointing to his non-Brady record as “proof” that all those SB wins were more due to Brady than Belichick, and he’s going to get dumped by the franchise he led to all those wins.

Take away his shiny things and he’s a really mediocre coach. I think his stint with the Browns further proves that.

As Detective Phoebe O’Hara said in Kindergarten Cop: “You’re not so tough without your car.”

It's time, he's at the end of the road.

One of my favorite Belichick moments.  

The formula for winning championships is a complex formula that everyone is always 

w1​x1​+w2​x2​+…+wn​xn​+b=0

Each element of a football team has a weight and each element has a size.  The head football coach and QB always have a big weight.  Brady is the GOAT.  You don't get bigger than Brady.  Belichick is one of the best defensive coordinators ever and he is in the top tier for head football coaches too. He is pretty big as well.   You need both to win.  The Belichick is nothing without Brady bit is dumb.  It is like saying Harbaugh is nothing without Andrew Luck.  Well, give him JJ McCarthy and he looks pretty good too.

allowing Matt Patricia to be your OC should've been grounds for immediate dismissal.  

Brady won