OT: Beckman Investigation Report concludes...Beckman is an a-hole
Illinois just released the full report. Prety awful. From Yahoo:
- Beckman was found to have “repeatedly communicated with players in ways, both explicit and implicit, that had the effect of deterring them from sharing information with sports medicine staff about injuries” and “engaged in a pattern of criticizing and demeaning players for seeking evaluation by an athletic trainer during practice, promoting the idea of playing through injuries, belittling injuries, and encouraging players to minimize their injuries.”
- Beckman routinely using vulgarities toward injured players in practice, calling a player with a suspected concussion (who went on to miss the rest of the season) “scared,” yelling at a player to return to a practice drill when trainers “thought the player could have dislocated his hip,” and “habitually” telling players that he does not “believe in hamstring injuries.”
Yikes.
November 9th, 2015 at 3:34 PM ^
Posted in another thread already, but wow, Tim Beckman is an a-hole...
November 9th, 2015 at 3:36 PM ^
November 9th, 2015 at 3:38 PM ^
“habitually” telling players that he does not “believe in hamstring injuries.”
What the. . . ?
November 9th, 2015 at 3:40 PM ^
Hey man, hamstrings are a just one of many philosophies. Don't judge.
November 9th, 2015 at 4:15 PM ^
Even before you phrased it that way, it made me think of this photo from one of my favorite The Onion articles from 15 years ago:
Someone needs to photoshop in Tim Beckman, second from right, with sign now reading "I don't accept fundamental human anatomy AND I COACH."
November 9th, 2015 at 7:35 PM ^
who the f**k downvotes The Onion? Sacrilege.
November 9th, 2015 at 11:35 PM ^
November 9th, 2015 at 3:42 PM ^
Like was that part of his pre-game speeches? Gentlemen! Let's go out there and show them just who the Fightin' Illini really are! By the way, hamstring injuries are a farce. NOW LET'S GO GET EM!
November 9th, 2015 at 3:45 PM ^
Like, what is an injury really... It's really an existential question of the mind feeling the pain, or the body not being able to function due to structural damage. Everyone's reality is different, and we just find consensus to explain our very being.
Or...
He's really just an asshole.
November 9th, 2015 at 5:39 PM ^
November 9th, 2015 at 7:41 PM ^
Or.......He really is an .........that is how you get players to quit on you when you need them the most.
November 9th, 2015 at 4:01 PM ^
November 9th, 2015 at 5:11 PM ^
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November 9th, 2015 at 5:13 PM ^
November 9th, 2015 at 4:51 PM ^
in Physiology he must possess to make that statement, never ceases to amaze
November 9th, 2015 at 10:09 PM ^
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November 9th, 2015 at 3:39 PM ^
...how many college coaches rise to their level of incompetence. Beckman is the poster child for the Peter Principle.
November 9th, 2015 at 3:41 PM ^
"does not believe in hamstring injuries."
What? How?
November 9th, 2015 at 3:43 PM ^
and global warming, hamstring injuries are just a theory.
November 9th, 2015 at 9:06 PM ^
I was once an impressive leaper, but now I can't jump as high.
Obviously, something's up with gravity.
November 9th, 2015 at 3:42 PM ^
Unrelated but sort of not, avoiding this type of jerk helped land us Kemp. Note the diff btw our staff and the beat faced Irishmen who berates players and coached he was comparing our coaches against:
“Besides seeing 110,000 fans at the game it was definitely the family atmosphere from the coaches (and) how nice they are all of the time,” Kemp said describing what stood out most about his official visit earlier this fall.. “At practice they’re not yellers, they’re teachers. They will yell like any other coach, but it’s not aggressive… it’s not harassment. They just want you to be the best that you can be. They’re teachers. They’ll break it down for you so you can get it right the next play. When you do they’re all jumping (and) they’re all excited for you. It really just felt like a family.”
November 9th, 2015 at 3:46 PM ^
November 9th, 2015 at 4:24 PM ^
Shots fired at his other contender.
November 9th, 2015 at 6:48 PM ^
I really dislike the guy - but have I noticed a shift in his attitude somewhat? He's still a scowling, blustering twit . . . but this year he seems less so.
Or am I imagining it since we didn't play them?
November 9th, 2015 at 7:13 PM ^
November 9th, 2015 at 8:23 PM ^
Yep. He stopped with the players and starting to yell at his coaches. It is just part of the therapy.
November 9th, 2015 at 9:57 PM ^
I don't watch much ND but after his purple-faced first season things seem to have calmed down. I wonder if he got some anger management counseling. It would make sense as he's now representing a bigtime program or if he's having bigger aspirations.
November 10th, 2015 at 7:44 PM ^
Tell that to the strength coach he tackled on the sideline.
November 9th, 2015 at 10:27 PM ^
Ruby slippers?
November 9th, 2015 at 3:45 PM ^
I mean I get being tough and trying to playing thorugh being somewhat hurt, but an injury is an injury, especially a concussion, he got what he deserved and with this report I imagine he's going to have a tough time explaining it to a future prospective employer.
November 9th, 2015 at 3:47 PM ^
November 9th, 2015 at 3:47 PM ^
I was imagining Tim Beckman repeatedly and adamently telling people that he doesn't believe in hamstring injuries and couldn't stop laughing.
But then I read the part where he forced a player with a possible spinal cord injury to turn and look at him when the trainers said not to and got a little sick. That's seriously fucked up.
November 9th, 2015 at 8:25 PM ^
Very sad. How in the hell nobody punched this f*er
November 9th, 2015 at 3:51 PM ^
Why did it have to come from a player? It's really disgusting that none of the adults on that team stood up for the players. All of them should be fired after the season. Basic negligence.
November 9th, 2015 at 4:02 PM ^
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November 9th, 2015 at 4:06 PM ^
when all this happened? They are partners in crime and should face the consequences.
November 9th, 2015 at 4:33 PM ^
They had multiple head trainers quit under Beckman. They might not have been leaking stories to the media, but I'll bet they talked to the AD.
Whistleblowers lose their careers in coaching. It's possible that a coach leaked something or encouraged a player to speak up. There were team doctors in a better position to go public, both in terms of job security and with more direct and expert knowledge. I'd blame them.
November 9th, 2015 at 9:37 PM ^
Yeah, that's the part I didn't get. Maybe the coaches were all in on it. Maybe the players were worried about how they'd be perceived or being disloyal to the team. But it obviously seems like the medical staff had issues with him, so why wouldn't they have told anyone?
November 9th, 2015 at 10:42 PM ^
Its those damn kids fault. They are not executing. S/
November 9th, 2015 at 3:52 PM ^
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November 9th, 2015 at 3:54 PM ^
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November 9th, 2015 at 4:06 PM ^
Actually, I think you meant:
Our Success = Knowledge, the Knowledge, to be Excellent, Energy.
November 9th, 2015 at 3:55 PM ^
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November 9th, 2015 at 9:39 PM ^
Bring back Zook!
November 9th, 2015 at 4:00 PM ^
For a little fairness here, Harbaugh routinely tells players to play through injuries if they can.
November 9th, 2015 at 4:05 PM ^