One of the great games ever. Where does it rank?

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A great game throughout.

A stunning double-clutch three to tie with 4 seconds left.

A brilliant three to win at the buzzer.

I can't think of a time I've seen a better game in this spot in the NCAA championship.

Where does this rank all time in college basketball? Where does it rank in all sports? (This is a "fun" thread. Recency bias is ok.)

bdneely4

April 4th, 2016 at 11:59 PM ^

Jim Nance said "and the moment you all have been waiting for" then one shining moment comes on. He really is obsessed with that exact moment every year.



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UMinSF

April 5th, 2016 at 12:02 AM ^

NCAA game ever was the semi-final in '89 against Illinois. Incredible talent on both teams, and we'd lost to them twice during the season.

As far as games without a rooting interest, this one was as good as it gets.

doggdetroit

April 5th, 2016 at 12:04 AM ^

I'm going to throw out the 99 title game between UConn led by Rip Hamilton and Duke. It was nowhere near as dramatic as this one, but it was a close game throughout and it was a major upset, statistcially the biggest in title game history. Duke had won 32 straight games as well. 

NittanyFan

April 5th, 2016 at 12:20 AM ^

than either 1983 (Houston was favored by 8.5) or 1985 (Georgetown was favored by 9 over Villanova).

That 1999 Duke team was incredible.  Corey Magette came off the bench!  Langdon, Battier, William Avery, Elton Brand.  

Connecticut was darn good themselves, 2 losses and ran through the Big East.  But that Duke team was seen as a "sure thing."  They should have been undefeated entering the game, playing to be the only undefeated since Indiana.  I remember their one loss, a 2:30 AM ESPN special in the Great Alaska Shootout: Cincinnati was very good and played darn near PERFECT, and still won by the slimmest of margins.

stephenrjking

April 5th, 2016 at 12:30 AM ^

In retrospect, it seems absurd--that UConn team was absolutely loaded. But at the time Duke had what people felt was an unbeatable team, one of the best of all time. 

So it was the rare game that was both a stunning upset and a massive heavyweight title fight. Kind of like Texas-USC at the Rose Bowl. In fact, a lot like that.

UMinSF

April 5th, 2016 at 12:32 AM ^

Villanova seemed like huge underdogs against Georgetown. They lost to them twice during the season.

They also got blasted by Pitt in their regular season final (23 pts!), then beat them in the first round of the Big East tournament before getting crushed by St. Johns.

Sneaked into the tournament at 19-10.  

Meanwhile, G'town was #1 almost the entire season.

 

M-Dog

April 5th, 2016 at 12:41 AM ^

Yeah, you can't go just by point spreads that Vegas sets to move the money from one side to the other.

I remember both NC State in '83 and and Villinova in '85.  They were huge underdogs.  They were both teams that had no business being in the Final and were given no shot to win it.

Nobody thought '99 UConn did not belong in the Final nor that it had no shot at all.

 

doggdetroit

April 5th, 2016 at 12:33 AM ^

Yeah, that's what made that game so memorable for me. A) I hated Duke. B) Duke was a juggernaut, probably Coach K's second best team behind the Hurley, Laetner, Hill led teams.

 too remember that Great Alaska Shoout. and the loss to Cincinatti featuring a young Kenyon Martin.

The win marked UConn's arrival on the scene as a national power and I remember Hamilton and Khalid El Amin yelling "They don't know! " over and over after they had won.

Michigan4Life

April 5th, 2016 at 12:34 AM ^

I wonder what point spread that KenPom had for that game if it existed in 99. I bet a lot smaller than what they had at 9.5. 9.5 is ridiculous considering UConn lost 2 games and had multiple future pros on the team.

Nova and NC State were a much worse team(and rightfully so since their seeds are a lot lower than 1 seed that UConn got). Both had zero business being in the title game unlike UConn.



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NittanyFan

April 5th, 2016 at 12:51 AM ^

the thing is: Duke had one loss, and all their wins but 3 were by double-digits.  Two 6-point neutral-court wins over Michigan State (very good themselves in 1999, they won 22 straight before playing Duke in the National SF), and a 4-point win at MSG over Ron Artest's St. John's squad.

1998-99 Duke swept the ACC, winning every game by double-digits.  That's insane!

Even Kenpom, I think, would have realized them as a 4-standard-deviation-type extreme outlier.  They were literally off the charts.

 

doggdetroit

April 5th, 2016 at 12:25 AM ^

UConn was a 9.5 point underdog in the title game. This was the largest point spread in title game history. Villanova was a 9 point underdog to Georgetown. I couldn't find the spread for the 83 title game but if you read about it, the point spread was only the fourth largest.
 
It was not improbable for UConn to get there like it was for Villanova or NC State, but they were heavy underdogs to Duke. So yes, 99 UConn scored statistically the biggest upset in title game history.

PinballPete

April 5th, 2016 at 12:23 AM ^

That '99 game and the 2008 Kansas vs Memphis overtime game were the two best title games that I've watched that didn't feature Michigan, and I've seen every one since '89.

This one was good with a great finish but Nova should have put them to bed with 3 min to play. 

UMinSF

April 5th, 2016 at 12:12 AM ^

I'm old enough to remember lots of great ones.  Jordan's game-winner, Lorenzo Charles, Keith Smart against Syracuse, 'nova's upset against Ewing and Georgetown. 

Even some unpleasant ones were great games. Duke's win over UNLV, our loss v. UNC.

And of course, Rumeal's big brass ones to seal it in '89!

DonAZ

April 5th, 2016 at 12:21 AM ^

I recall Indiana beating Michigan 86-68 in 1976.  There wasn't much excitement or drama to that game.  It was all Indiana.  I was one disappointed 16 year old.  But Ricky Green was fun to watch.

UMinSF

April 5th, 2016 at 12:42 AM ^

NCAA championship game I remember. 

That Indiana team was Knight's masterpiece. They rolled us in the final, and beat us twice during the season.

Still the last undefeated team.

Rickey Green was fast as lightning, and Grote and Hubbard were warriors. Unfortunately no match for Buckner, May and Benson.

JamieH

April 5th, 2016 at 1:37 AM ^

I was wondering if anyone would bring up '87. That was a pretty amazing finish too.  I'm not sure I've ever seen two 3's hit in the last 5 seconds before though (in a title game)

DavidP814

April 5th, 2016 at 12:21 AM ^

Thinking about it, the tournament as a whole was incredible, with the exception of the semifinal games. Besides tonight, there were at least 3 other buzzer beaters that I can think of.  The half-courter UNI hit to beat Texas, Wisconsin over Xavier, and Iowa in the first round. Notre Dame also had closer to a buzzer beater. Then there were the epic comebacks.  A&M making up 12 in the final 44 seconds,Syracuse against Virginia AND Gonzaga.  And. I heard there was a 2-15 upset the first weekend.

M-Dog

April 5th, 2016 at 12:34 AM ^

It was a strange tournament.  The first couple of rounds were great and obviously the Final was great.  But the Elite Eight and Final Four games were very flat.

Had we not had this finish tonight it would have been one of the more disappointing tournaments in terms of drama.