Oklahoma offense

Submitted by Mgoczar on

Seeing oklahoma offense slice through Gerogia like its nothing - question for the coaches and smart Mgoposters

1. Understand that its all spread, but how difficult is it to implement parts of it to Michigan's scheme

2. I believe that this can be potent without Baker Mayfield (other way of saying that while Mayfield is a baller, this can still give fits to teams without him). Wrong to assume that?

3. Oklahoma doesn't recruit at elite level yet they produce good receivers and RB. Wrong to assume scheme and coaching is the reason they are a threat to CFP from Big12 every year?

4. What things can Michigan do schematically to be prolific on offense starting from today and what you saw today? Do we have the personnel to get there in a few months for 2018?

 

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BlueMk1690

January 1st, 2018 at 6:17 PM ^

that Georgia and Oklahoma are running vastly different offenses. UGA is 10th in rushing in the nation, 109th in passing (which is 1 spot ahead of us btw),  OU is 2nd in passing and 27th in rushing.  What makes up the difference is that Georgia is 4th in total defense and Oklahoma 59th. Both are in the playoffs.

What does it prove? That it's not the system you choose to run that makes or breaks you, it's how good you're at running it. All of these systems can create tactical advantages.

 

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Jangalang

January 1st, 2018 at 6:17 PM ^

Patterson will get us one step closer to having an offense that "somewhat" resembles what we are seeing in the Rose Bowl. Still need help on the o-line...in a major way.

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BroadneckBlue21

January 1st, 2018 at 8:04 PM ^

New toy, new hopes. After a bit of play, fans will clamor for a new toy when the old new one has had a few times to show what it can do. “That’s it?!? We need a new toy, this one wasn’t perfect right away.” That is all such sneaky suspicions do; regurgitate the hope that the next guy will just be better. Speculation is the game of hopesters. There’s no analysis of future player improvement in any of the posts suggesting what will happen. Tedious.

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M-Dog

January 1st, 2018 at 6:17 PM ^

You can't stop Oklahoma's offense just by throwing a couple of extra guys in the box on defense and calling it a day.

Unlike ours.

 

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MarcusRay97

January 1st, 2018 at 6:40 PM ^

That’s because nobody fears or respects our receivers...When was the last time we had a receiver teams had to plan around and wouldn’t dare single cover him ?? If we had good receivers on the outside teams would be more hesitant to drop extra guys in the box

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The Truth Hurts

January 1st, 2018 at 6:17 PM ^

It's just not the qb, it's having confidence in ur playcall.   U have a good defense, just stop being conservative and attack more. We need a offense staff with that mentality.

 

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Moleskyn

January 1st, 2018 at 7:17 PM ^

For coaches to be more aggressive and take risks, they need confidence in the players that they will execute. I think it's clear the coaches don't have confidence in Peters' abilities to this point. Not saying he can't turn it around and improve, but so far he's been very basic and overly cautious with the ball.

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BroadneckBlue21

January 1st, 2018 at 8:12 PM ^

1) they let Peters air it out a few times early on after getting TOS. 2) they called a deep out on 4th and 1 with the game on the line after... 3) going for it on 4th and 10 from own 25 with the game on the line and a powerful defense. How is the confidence not in Peters? If anything, this game catered to 1) confidence that Peters can throw and 2) that SC would stop the run. Harbaugh abandoned the run from the start: how in the f$&k does your leading rusher not start the game? Game should’ve featured Higdon and Evans, but it was...like the coachesdecjded to stay at an AirBNB instead of the Holiday Inn that got them to Tampa.

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erald01

January 1st, 2018 at 6:19 PM ^

OU is in it because of Baker Mayfield. The guy can freaking ball. He is an example how you can carry a team through every win. Our QBs cant throw past 5yrds so thats the difference.

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amir_6

January 1st, 2018 at 6:21 PM ^

Definatley think we should add some up-tempo/spread option concepts to our offense.. We have the speed and personel to run it. Especially with Hudson and Filaiga on the OL next season! Remember that Filaiga was actually well on his way to Oklahoma before we started to recruit him!

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KC Wolve

January 1st, 2018 at 6:27 PM ^

I love the people that are saying no to this and their reasoning being Rich Rod. I’m not saying it should happen, but people actually watching OK shred Georgia’s “vaunted” defense and then saying “nope, don’t want that” is really funny to me.

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69Mach1

January 1st, 2018 at 6:28 PM ^

There is not one component of Michigan's team, talent, coaching, program that is superior to Oklahoma. They are in the midst of a run that includes their 3rd Heisman winner since 2002, multiple appearances and victories even over superior teams in bowl games, National Title game appearances, Playoff appearance, Conference Victories.

 

Michigan has not won Heisman since 1997. We haven't even won our Conference since 2004. We haven't won Rose Bowl since 1997. We haven't even appeared or sniffed the Big Ten Championship game which the following programs have appeared in;

MSU 3 appearances winning 2

Wisconsin 5 appearances winning 2

Nebraska 1 appearance winning 0

OSU 3 appearances winning 2

PSU 1 appearances winning 1

Iowa 1 appearance winning 0

 

The programs not appearance in Conference Championship? Minnesota, Illinois, Purdue, Indiana, Maryland, Rutgers, Northwestern, and Michigan

 

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MichiganMan_24_

January 1st, 2018 at 6:29 PM ^

when i was 9 yrs old i created a playbook on super tecmo bowl...It was more explosive and created more mismatches than what Drevno and Harbaugh do..should i send send it to them?

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MarcusRay97

January 1st, 2018 at 6:34 PM ^

We like blaming the Oline and then the QB a lot but the WRs get no separation are never clearly open ...This Oline gave Peters a good 3-5 seconds on multiple drop backs and he couldn’t find anyone open... When was the last time we had a true STUD at WR ??

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newtopos

January 1st, 2018 at 7:04 PM ^

Fisch coached WRs prior to this year.

UCLA had him in 2017, and their offensive S&P+ ranking improved ~60 points.  Meanwhile, we brought in the Cleveland Browns OC as our passing game coordinator, and our QBs, WRs, and passing game (and overall offense) reached the level of our defense during RR's final season. 

  

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mfan92

January 1st, 2018 at 6:38 PM ^

Ground and pound can work. Look at bama, Wisconsin, Georgia. It can work for us. Our O line has been very underwhelming with harbaugh. Since Stanford and into 49ers he's had the best offensive line. Our line isn't strong enough at the point of attack. We get stood up more often than not. Let's hope this new strength coach comes in and gets our line to be bulldozers. Yes we need to be more creative in the passing game that harbaugh needs to address and let his guys go. But it starts up front and we aren't physical enough to control the game. So let's hope this spring and summer we notice a difference in the physicality of our team

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MIMark

January 1st, 2018 at 6:40 PM ^

1. Very difficult to implement elements in our system. Oklahoma's offense all starts with the linemen. Same place every offense starts. They are a different type of linemen than ours. They run block differently, they are trained differently, they are built differently. I don't think you can plug and play parts of an air raid system into a mismatching offensive line. 2. Yes. Look at Baylor. Even without elite QBs, they had year after year of monster stats. Then the scandal hit. Mayfield elevates Oklahoma from potent to national championship caliber. 3. They recruit very well. And then they develop the talent better than any spread offense 4. Start with a new OC. Time to shake things up some. If you want to spread things out some (count me in), I'd find a solid west coast type of coordinator. Something to pass a lot out of the spread but maintain some under center power formations so you can do it all without massive personnel changes.

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