NYC Fan3

February 24th, 2021 at 11:16 AM ^

Word of advice to the youngsters on this board.  If you’re going to start a fight at the bar, you shouldn't select someone with cauliflower ear.  Despite any size advantage you may have, they are trained to fight.

WindyCityBlue

February 24th, 2021 at 11:22 AM ^

Am I the only one, who thought that was a bit of a sucker punch?  Don't get me wrong, I like that the little guy stood up to the football player, who was clearly instigating the fracas. 

Disclaimer: I've never really been in a fist fight, I don't know the street rules.

MgoBlaze

February 24th, 2021 at 8:42 PM ^

Hi, sorry. Just gonna pop in here real quick.

I've trained mma in different forms (judo, bjj, muay thai) since Chuck Liddell was fighting. Choked and been choked out literally countless times.

It's very hard to kill someone with a blood choke. Properly applied, the person is out in three to five seconds. Most people know when the other person is out and let go. Even if they don't, a person has to hold it for a long time (like over 30 seconds- a LONG time in a fight) for the risk of death to occur.

Honestly, in my opinion it's the most humane way to defuse a situation. Don't need to risk feeling guilty about knocking someone's teeth out, or gouging their eye, or breaking their nose  or giving someone a concussion when I can just sleep them, put them down gently, and walk away. 

By the time they wake up and realize what's happening, I'm already somewhere else. They're not hurt but very embarrassed and have learned a lesson. Win-win in my book.

BTB grad

February 24th, 2021 at 11:29 AM ^

I saw many drunk college fights in my time at U-M (most of them seemed to occur right outside Skeeps in front of the Maynard parking garage). Most fights were just really drunk uncoordinated guys swinging and mostly missing until the fight got broken up. I've never seen anything like this. While it was never a good idea to get into a bar fight, the biggest thing guys really had to worry about were potential legal repercussions. With the popularity of MMA/UFC nowadays, it seems like a really really bad idea to get into a bar fight... Like you might lose your eye

Rabbit21

February 24th, 2021 at 11:36 AM ^

I always assumed the fights you cite were due to guys not wanting to back down in front of their friends, but also not REALLY wanting to fight and so they basically buy time until their friends get bored and pull them out of the fight.  

Kind of a, "Hold me back! Hold me back! Wait, why aren't you holding me back?" thing.  

In one of my units we had a Nav(from Boston, of course) who was constantly trying to start shit in bars.  Finally, one night we just decided to let him get his ass kicked.  

Cam

February 24th, 2021 at 11:33 AM ^

People who get into fights as adults are morons. There are many people serving long sentences for accidentally killing or seriously injuring others in bar fights. 

MartyinDayton

February 24th, 2021 at 12:04 PM ^

Back in the day some clown at a bar picked a fight with a buddy of mine. Buddy warned him not to start anything but clown was drunk & threw a wild punch. Buddy knocked him out with 2 punches. Cops showed up. 1 cop asked buddy if he boxes. Buddy said no. Cop asked if he gets in fight a bunch. Buddy said, "Well, I play hockey." Cop laughed, turned around, & told his partner to arrest the clown. 

Perkis-Size Me

February 24th, 2021 at 12:25 PM ^

Exactly. My brother had a buddy he went to high school with who died in a bar fight. Not a close friend but someone he knew fairly well. 

Starts out the way they almost all do. Some random guy makes a pass at the guy’s girlfriend, made a comment he probably shouldn’t have made. My brother’s friend steps in to try and defend her, things get heated well beyond where they should but no one decides to be the bigger man and walk away. Everyone's had a few too many and all the normal inhibitions you'd have are out the window. Instead, someone pulls a knife and stabs my brother’s friend. He died before he could even get to the hospital. 

I know it’s tough walk away from someone who’s calling you a pussy, a bitch, or whatever other insult they have in their arsenal. But it’s better to walk away with a slightly hurt pride from an altercation you probably won’t even remember the next morning as opposed to your mother planning your funeral the next day. Never know who you’re talking to, what they’re carrying in their jacket, who their friends are or what they’re capable of. 

pinkfloyd2000

February 24th, 2021 at 1:48 PM ^

Many years ago, I made the mistake while walking out of a bar in the Columbus area (yeah yeah, I know) of telling some dude in a cowboy hat that I liked his hat. I genuinely did, but in my (and his) drunken state, he thought I was making fun of him. He was a MUCH bigger guy than I was, and he came at me in a rage like he was going to kill me.

Thankfully, I had two very tall and imposing friends with me who stepped in between us and defused the situation. 

Alcohol does very bad and stupid things to a person.

Perkis-Size Me

February 24th, 2021 at 12:17 PM ^

This is like a real life example of Dave Chappelle’s “When Keepin’ It Real Goes Wrong.”

What Darius didn’t know was that Chris was a tenth degree black belt who started trouble just so he could practice his karate in street fighting scenarios. What ensued was one of the most spectacular ass whoopings ever witnessed in the Atlantic Northeast.