O'Neill crew - actually not bad today?
I didn't get to watch a lot of the game but it felt like there wasn't a blatantly obvious miss, no-call, make-up call, or other shenanigans from the crew, and overall called a pretty good game. I will say they missed the facemask on Corum but realistically that would have been a gift there anyway--I don't think the facemask grab changed the outcome of the play much, if at all.
Thoughts?
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:13 PM ^
Agree - the game was well officiated
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:14 PM ^
Thought Turner could have been called for PI but we also didn't get one on the next series on Johnson. Mostly thought Michigan did a great job playing clean football. All those hits to the QBs without a late hit or a head hit.
October 2nd, 2021 at 8:17 PM ^
Agree. I looked for this comment before posting it myself.
October 2nd, 2021 at 8:26 PM ^
My take on the Turner no-call is that that was the right call. The receiver initiated contact by running away from the ball and in front of Turner.
October 3rd, 2021 at 4:20 AM ^
Live I saw his hand out and it looked like he was holding, especially from far away. On the replay it was a good no-call I thought. The WR was REALLY trying to oversell things, he starts wobbling and waving his arms before Turner grabbed him for a split second.
October 3rd, 2021 at 12:11 AM ^
I'm always going to be a guy that prefers to "let the players play" when the call is close. I enjoyed todays game in part because the officials did just that.
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:15 PM ^
Yeah I agree. There were no bad calls. As noted, they missed a facemask on Corum, and the non-PI call on Turner could have gone the other way. It's hard for me to see holding in the interior, however.
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
From a monetary standpoint and since OSU shit the bed, the BIG and FOX have a vested interest in an undefeated PSU, MSU - UM game. Just follow the money and place your bets accordingly.
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:36 PM ^
True
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
FUCK JOHN O'NEIL!!!! NEVER FORGET
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:26 PM ^
This is a reasonable take and absolutely deserves the multi-post.
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:26 PM ^
I don’t think you really mean that…
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:27 PM ^
I upvoted every one of your posts- totally agree. He calls more TD’s back for Michigan than any other B1G ref.
Fuck him
October 2nd, 2021 at 10:17 PM ^
Yessss. Dudeee. Exactlyyyyyy
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:27 PM ^
This
October 3rd, 2021 at 9:23 AM ^
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Obligatory ??????
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
FUCK JOHN O'NEIL!!!! NEVER FORGET
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
FUCK JOHN O'NEIL!!!! NEVER FORGET
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
FUCK JOHN O'NEIL!!!! NEVER FORGET
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
FUCK JOHN O'NEIL!!!! NEVER FORGET
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
FUCK JOHN O'NEIL!!!! NEVER FORGET
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
FUCK JOHN O'NEIL!!!! NEVER FORGET
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
FUCK JOHN O'NEIL!!!! NEVER FORGET
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
FUCK JOHN O'NEIL!!!! NEVER FORGET
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
FUCK JOHN O'NEIL!!!! NEVER FORGET
October 2nd, 2021 at 8:04 PM ^
Okay! Okay!
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
FUCK JOHN O'NEIL!!!! NEVER FORGET
October 2nd, 2021 at 8:20 PM ^
So that’s how I increase my point total! Gotta get my second free MGoTshirt.
October 2nd, 2021 at 9:33 PM ^
You don't say?
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:20 PM ^
I honestly felt like they got a call from the league office this week saying, "favor the undefeated team."
Crazy, I know.
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:24 PM ^
I think O'Neil actually choked on some vomit that he couldn’t overturn the td by Johnson- I’m sure he hated it. So two of our games refereed by O’Neil crew- hopefully that’s it for the year.
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:27 PM ^
They BLATANTLY missed a facemask on Corum and then called Haskins down when he crossed the goal line on the next play.
It ended up not mattering, but against Penn State or Ohio State? I don’t know.
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:30 PM ^
Haskins did cross the goal line. That was a mistake.
October 2nd, 2021 at 8:02 PM ^
How did that not get reviewed? Whether or not a guy scores is kind of important, Big Ten.
October 2nd, 2021 at 8:09 PM ^
May actually have been Michigan’s own fault for getting the next play off (on which we fortunately scored) too quickly.
October 3rd, 2021 at 12:14 AM ^
This is the exact reason why the Haskins touchdown didn't get reviewed. Not enough time for the officials to make a decision. Very glad the team didn't screw itself over by not scoring on the next play.
October 2nd, 2021 at 9:04 PM ^
What was really bizarre was they waited to call it until they ran up, saw Haskins in the endzone, *then* called him short. Like, why wait if you're gonna call him short no matter what?
October 2nd, 2021 at 8:25 PM ^
The face mask was blatant to us the TV viewers, but I’m not sure there was an official in place to see it.
I was upset about some of the spots early, but from the mid-2nd quarter on, they seemed competent. Seth was complementary of the female official in the crew. I saw a Wisconsin WR try to sell a pass interference in front of her and she didn’t fall for it.
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:27 PM ^
Eh they were not as atrocious as normal but still almost screwed UM on the one td drive with the missed facemask and missing that Haskins scored already on 3rd down. Also had a spot that was atrociously off on the 1st down run after Wisconsin's muffed punt. When your the O'Neil crew though the bar is so low that anything better than god awful seems like a miracle.
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:32 PM ^
They had an awful spot in the red zone where they didn't give Haskens any forward progress and spotted it where they dragged him back and shafted us out of 3 yards.
October 2nd, 2021 at 9:32 PM ^
The play you referenced was after the Wisky turnover and we had the ball 1st and goal on the 5. Pretty big difference between 2nd and 2.5 v. 2nd and 4.
I also wondered about the spot on McCarthy's read option keeper where, it looked like he probably get the 1st down, but was marked short.
October 3rd, 2021 at 8:11 AM ^
That spot was off by 2 fucking yards. Ridiculous.
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:34 PM ^
I’ll be honest - on the replay reviews I was just waiting for a decision to not go our way. But overall the officiating seemed… good? There were calls that I didn’t agree with, particularly with the Haskins spot, but generally there seemed to be very little chicanery.
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:44 PM ^
The fact that there's no snowflake thread for officiating may be a good sign.
I thought I saw a ton of Wisconsin holding that didn't get called.
But, even if he doesn't do badly in a particular game, that doesn't mean that he isn't bad. Bad is his substance, not just his performance.
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:46 PM ^
"Sun shines on a dog's ass some days..."
--S. Deane
October 3rd, 2021 at 9:13 AM ^
A non-awful performance by the O'Neill crew doesn't make them competent.
"You can put a cat in the oven, but that don't make it a biscuit."
--S. Deane
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:48 PM ^
It's their job. Don't give them that much credit.
They're getting paid.
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:48 PM ^
I don't think we will have to worry about John O'Neill's crew calling any future games for us this season.
There was one called holding when a Badger OL blatantly tackled Hutchinson that was flagged, which violates the sacrosanct dictate at B1G headquarters to never call holding in favor of Michigan. In light of that criminal dereliction of duty, I would be surprised if O'Neill is allowed to call our games again.
October 2nd, 2021 at 8:28 PM ^
They sacked him anyway, so the holding call was moot.
October 2nd, 2021 at 7:53 PM ^
Wow, I honestly didn’t realize that was the O’Neil crew. They did a good job of staying out of the game.