NY6: Liberty vs Oregon… a sacrificial lamb? OSU v Mizzou. Thoughts?
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:15 PM ^
I hope Oregon puts Liberty into a big Jules Verne canon and shoots them to Jupiter.
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:21 PM ^
Since Pettiti and the other B1G coaches ganged up on Michigan, I’ve been rooting against all other conference schools. Sorry, Oregon but that now includes you as well.
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:27 PM ^
Why do so many people seem to dislike Liberty? I'm out of the loop on this one.
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:34 PM ^
Jerry Falwell founded the place. School fired his kid after he got in a hilariously hypocritical sex scandal. They embraced all the people fired at Baylor for covering up that scandal, including the AD.
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:39 PM ^
I had no clue on this one. Thanks for the info.
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:43 PM ^
Yikes. I kinda wish I hadn't asked but thanks for the response lol
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:44 PM ^
Jerry Falwell is long dead.
Penn State did some things too. And Notre Dame represents an institution that did some things too. And Bo looked the other way.
Have today's Liberty players and coaches done all that bad stuff?
The outrage seems selective to me.
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:46 PM ^
Yeah, pretty sure I'm just free to dislike the institution and what it stands for, without regard for who's currently there or not.
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:54 PM ^
What exactly do they "stand for" now?
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:11 PM ^
You can say, "This happens everywhere," but I happen to believe there are, let's say, certain philosophies that might be unique to Liberty, that are why this is going on there. You can try all you want but I'm not going to be baited into saying anything that will be spun as political or motivated by some form of bigotry, to get me in trouble with the mods.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2023/10/03/liberty-university-education-department-investigation/70964425007/
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:15 PM ^
"Feds say".........lol
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:17 PM ^
Ooh, good catch. Better check in with WorldNetDaily instead.
December 3rd, 2023 at 8:18 PM ^
Bigotry. They stand for bigotry and grifting.
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:49 PM ^
The institution still bans social dancing as part of their insane attempt to control every element of their students' lives. Still hates gay people. It's a backwards place.
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:59 PM ^
It's a backwards place.
Oh, I thought you were talking about Alabama.
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:01 PM ^
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December 3rd, 2023 at 4:04 PM ^
That's weird since I have a friend in the LGBT community at liberty and they have never had an issue and has had peaceful "protest" on campus this year to show support for LGBT cause in America. But it's ok to just stereotype anyways 🤷
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:10 PM ^
They lobby Congress to ban gay marriage, so yes, the institution hates gay people.
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:12 PM ^
Lol, you're not up on current events are you pal?!
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:18 PM ^
Hmmm., sounds like you and yours should not attend or donate to Liberty. Have a feeling they'll be just fine.
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:41 PM ^
Why don’t Baptists have sex standing up?
they don’t want people to think they’re dancing
December 3rd, 2023 at 5:44 PM ^
To be fair, their student body is probably comprised of really shitty dancers.
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:00 PM ^
They call themselves a university, but some people dislike that Liberty teaches young earth creationism with a straight face.
That shouldn't directly impact players & coaches of course, but teams on the whole do represent their school's cultures in sports.
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:02 PM ^
Liberty as an institution continues to be shitty, Falwell or not.
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:05 PM ^
Liberty is a cesspool of hypocritical false righteousness.
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:51 PM ^
So is every school and every person to one degree or another.
December 3rd, 2023 at 8:44 PM ^
Okay, Terrell Pryor.
December 3rd, 2023 at 10:11 PM ^
seriously. and the great thing about us hypocrites (that means you and me) is that we don't know when or where we're being hypocritical. hypocrites are always blind to their own hypocrisy. accept the blindness, have some humility, and hopefully some insight into our respective blind spots as well.
December 4th, 2023 at 12:01 AM ^
hypocrites are always blind to their own hypocrisy.
I tend to be skeptical of arguments that use the word “always.”
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:09 PM ^
Rooting interests in sports can pretty random. Having your institute founded by a jerk off like Jerry Falwell is sufficient for me to hate them.
A school employing an asshole doesn't sway me as much as the school being founded by one, especially when the asshole was alive during my lifetime.
Hiring Hugh Freeze didn't help either.
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:09 PM ^
The current AD is Ian McCaw. They named him to that position almost six months to the day after he resigned from Baylor in disgrace.
December 3rd, 2023 at 5:55 PM ^
Baylor AD, Hugh Freeze and the sexual assault cover situation and Jerry Fawell Jr's resignation because of his swinging are enough to make Liberty a joke. I mean their stance is pretty much pro degenerate behavior. On top of all of that they teach young earth creationism. If there was a flat earth university you'd make fun of them too.
My Dad is a minister and we drove to CA for a seminary training and stopped at Liberty University in the mid-80s. There is a 100 foot tall statue of praying hands. Turns out a lot of the ministers at the seminary stopped there on their way out. The joke was that if you dig down another 100 feet you find the rest of Jesus. (I don't know if the joke is funny or not.)
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:10 PM ^
Rooting interests in sports can pretty random. Having your institute founded by a jerk off like Jerry Falwell is sufficient for me to hate them.
A school employing an asshole doesn't sway me as much as the school being founded by one, especially when the asshole was alive during my lifetime.
Hiring Hugh Freeze didn't help either.
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:13 PM ^
Correct, however this is mgoblog, the hate is strong here.
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:31 PM ^
Maybe, but part of what I love about college football is finding reasons to root for or against dozens of teams.
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:01 PM ^
One Ring to Rule Them All: Not-Michigan
December 3rd, 2023 at 5:11 PM ^
OMG you're so triggered! Do you need a safe space???
...did I say it right?
December 3rd, 2023 at 10:15 PM ^
Indeed. With recency bias as well.
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:57 PM ^
People with an aversion toward scams and fraudsters dislike Liberty U
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:09 PM ^
MGOBLOG bias again, after all, what do you expect?! Liberty is one of my favorites, with Slippery-Rock of course. Could be in the playoff next year with the expansion. They consistently have a decent squad and will see further improvement year over year going forward.
December 3rd, 2023 at 10:16 PM ^
No winning here. The uninformed are about to appear.
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:55 PM ^
Liberty hosts political rallies for certain politicians of their choosing, makes them mandatory to attend, and punishes students and faculty that don't attend
December 3rd, 2023 at 10:17 PM ^
Show me.
December 3rd, 2023 at 5:03 PM ^
My bias against Liberty is because I've interviewed 2 people with Liberty degrees on their resumes over the years, and both were morons. That's a worse record than Sparty.
Smartest person was from NU J-School, but my boss wouldn't let me hire her.
December 3rd, 2023 at 10:18 PM ^
They were lucky.
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:32 PM ^
Because the whole school is a big real estate empire run by Fall Well Jr. until he was exposed as a hypocrite, a fraud and a swinger. He walked around campus with a plastic bottle of vodka and was drunk most of the time, and yet still disciplined students by fining them for possessing alcohol or having sex.
Also, hardly a bastion of intellectulism or deep thought, we knock our conference rivals all the time for academics, but they are Stanford compared to Liberty which is ranked deservedly somewhere between #395 and 435. I certainly don't think ratings are everything, but when you've been around for 50 years and still hover away at the bottom of the rankings, it certainly tells you something.
December 3rd, 2023 at 3:54 PM ^
drop a hundred on liberty
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:28 PM ^
I donate to Liberty monthly so I'll up my contribution!!
December 3rd, 2023 at 4:34 PM ^
When did we get a Christian fundamentalist troll? How do we give him back?
December 3rd, 2023 at 9:49 PM ^
Can we send you back?