Now that we're getting a new head coach can we get fully behind the program again?

Submitted by ThadMattasagoblin on

In 2014 fans talked about boycotting games and refused to donate because of grudges with Brandon and Hoke. Now that both of them are gone can we finally get behind the team and fill the Big House with 113K fans instead of the 102K shit we had this year. Can we finally let the RR debate go because it's no longer relevant. Who cares if we'd have given him a 4th year? Maybe we go 11-2 and maybe we go 7-5 again. It doesn't matter. That was four years ago. Brady Hoke got one thing right when he said that "this is Michigan fergodsakes" because we are Michigan and we better have 60,000 fans at the Spring Game to show the new coach, recruits, and nation that we are college football's greatest fanbase. 

FreddieMercuryHayes

December 2nd, 2014 at 4:47 PM ^

I think removing Brandon has a much bigger impact than the HC in the long run. If Harbaugh is hired, I expect a lot of fan excitement, but getting a new AD to repair the damage with the fan base as well as set the program on a path to long term sustainability will be the key.


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Tater

December 2nd, 2014 at 5:58 PM ^

Dave Brandon did much more to erode the fan experience than Brady Hoke did.  It was his policies, his micromanagement and his bumbling that alienated the fanbase the most.  I think most people here have been behind the program all along.  They were just pissed off at the person running the program.

I think it's important for everyone to support the coach, even those who don't see Michigan hire the coach they wanted.  If Hackett cleans house and hires an outsider, we don't need another cabal sabotaging the new coach.  Hackett was right about retiring the "Michigan Man" meme.  It was subverted and turned into "code" for the opposite of what Michigan athletics has long represented.

I want a spread guy and don't want Miles, but I will be supportive of whoever they hire until he proves that it isn't going to work, as Hoke finally did this year.

Most of all, I hope those in a position to influence the program don't act like petty, vindictive assholes if they don't get who they want this time.  It isn't going to work unless everyone pulls together and decides that the University of Michigan is more important than their own agenda or opinion.

Everyone Murders

December 2nd, 2014 at 4:51 PM ^

Yes.

To answer your question more explicitly, a lot of us feel that we have always been fully behind the program.  But yeah, hopefully Brandon's welcome dismissal and Hoke's unfortunate (but necessary) demise help to reunite the fanbase.

Hannibal.

December 2nd, 2014 at 4:52 PM ^

I don't know how everyone else feels but I'm going to have an extremely hard time getting behind a Plan C candidate, especially if I feel like the administration converged on that candidate without an exhaustive search or they went after tha Plan A candidates with half-assed, bargain basement offers. 

Perkis-Size Me

December 2nd, 2014 at 5:02 PM ^

If that's going to happen, you and I know that'll depend on two things:

1) Who the coach is
2) More importantly, can he win football games?

If it's not Harbaugh, there will still be some portion of the fanbase that's pissed off and proclaiming we're going to hit another 3-4 year rough patch. In that case, the only thing that'll shut people up is winning.



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markusr2007

December 2nd, 2014 at 5:06 PM ^

There's an awful lot of self-congratulations and back slapping going on right now after we observe the interim AD do what he and everyone else no taking laudanum already knew he had to do several weeks ago.

Michigan's hiring track record for football coaches since World War 2 has been:

  1. former Michigan assistant (Osterbaan)
  2. former Michigan assistant (Elliott)
  3. WTF out-of-no-where former Ohio State assistant (Schembechler)
  4. former Michigan assistant (Moeller)
  5. former Michigan assistant (Carr)
  6. WTF former West Virginia HC (Rodriguez)
  7. former Michigan assistant (Hoke)

I love Michigan football as much as the next fan, but there's just no evidence to suggest that the UofM athletic dept is going to nail this next hire. 

Wolverine 73

December 2nd, 2014 at 5:09 PM ^

I think you mean "WTF out-of-nowhere former Miami (NTM) head coach."  That was Bo's job before coming to Michigan.  And I assume No. 5 is supposed to say "(Carr)".  Edit: You already fixed Carr between my reading and posting.

BlueHills

December 2nd, 2014 at 5:33 PM ^

Let's have some clarity on how good these guys were:

1. Oosterbaan won a national championship his first year, and 3 big ten championships in 10 years. He was also a great player at Michigan. So that was a damn fine hire.

2. Elliott won only one B1G championship, but was a former star player and an excellent AD at Iowa, where he hired Hayden Fry who turned that program around. He was also a college football Hall of Famer. He was a great AD, a less great coach.

3. Bo was...well...Bo.

4. Moeller went .758 during his tenure and won/shared 3 conference titles in 5 years. Not a bad run.

5. Carr won a national title and had a .753 win percentage. His teams went to 4 Rose Bowls. How anyone can criticize this hire strikes me as wrongheadedness.

So your point about the Michigan Men being evidence of not "nailing" a hire just doesn't make sense to me. Until RR and Hoke we've had exemplary hires in nearly every way during the post WW2 era.

And Bump was not disliked even though he wasn't a big time winner here.

 

Blarvey

December 2nd, 2014 at 5:16 PM ^

1. A lot of the attendance stuff is an issue with all of college football.

2. A winning team fixes a lot of fan grievances.

I can't say that everything would be peachy between Brandon and the fans if they were playing in the B1GCG this weekend, but I am pretty sure he would still be AD. The idea of putting this stuff in the past is great and I am all for it. That said, sports fans will always be upset when their team isn't winning and demand change.

goblue16

December 2nd, 2014 at 5:07 PM ^

Just win and yes this spring as long as the weather holds should have a record attendance if Harbaugh is the coach anyone else mayb not so much

Lester

December 2nd, 2014 at 5:10 PM ^

If it's ANYBODY BUT The Harbaughs or Miles get ready for 4 more long years.  There is certainly going to be a faction of alumni/fans that will be very distressed if it's anyone but Jim Harbaugh.  IMO The Harbaughs aren't coming and Miles is not getting offered so be prepared for the infighting to continue.

 

Dunder

December 2nd, 2014 at 5:49 PM ^

1. In sports, hope springs eternal and a new guy means new hope.

2. Just took a gander at the candidates list by USA Today. Now, yes, I know the national outlets don't follow it as closely as we do. But it says something about the enduring luster of Michigan that the list is full of terrific candidates. The only two guys on it that I'd be skeptical about from the get go are Schiano (please no) and Miles (purely an age thing). 

If UM, not able to get Harbaugh, brought in a David Shaw, Gary Patterson, Dan Mullen - how can you not be geeked? If those are the second tier guys on your list, you've got one hell of a list.

BlueHills

December 2nd, 2014 at 5:15 PM ^

Jim Hackett is the kind of guy who just made me proud to be a Michigan alum because he represented the University so well in that press conference.

I still think that ultimately we will need an AD with more experience, but this transition couldn't have been handled better, and maybe he's the perfect guy to run the Department until they find someone they can settle in with for the long haul.

In any case, Hackett is clearly a person that everyone can rally around simply by virtue of the way he interacts with the community. I suspect that our next coaching search will at the very least not be bungled.

The press conference definitely raised my confidence level in this university.

jsquigg

December 2nd, 2014 at 5:31 PM ^

There are different ways to "get behind" a program.  The only thing the next coach has to do is win.  When the program makes poor decisions and the fans are active in their displeasure, it doesn't mean they aren't "behind the program."  Yeesh.

McSomething

December 2nd, 2014 at 5:41 PM ^

Step 1. Fire Brandon Step 2. Fire Hoke (nice guy and all, not up to snuff) Step 3. Hire a coach with a history of success (and don't let him start getting cut down by "insiders" before stepping foot on campus) Step 4. ??? Step 5. Profit! The hardest part in this whole thing is right where we currently reside.

champswest

December 2nd, 2014 at 5:53 PM ^

I support the program regardless of who the coach is or what the won-lost record is.  I might not be happy with the way things are going, but I support the program.  And by supporting the program, I mean that I don't go out there everyday calling for the coaches or AD's head while the season is still going on.  

CoachBP6

December 2nd, 2014 at 5:54 PM ^

Don't count your blessings just yet. Greg Schiano or Jim Mora Jr could be walking through those doors any day now.....

delmarblue

December 2nd, 2014 at 6:11 PM ^

No way Mora is taking the job, but he would be a great hire.  West Coast guy very much liked by UCLA and its fans.  Mora is very smart and can see the problems with the Michigan job and the masses who will reject anyone not named Harbaugh (whether or not the Harbaughs even have any interest in the job).

Njia

December 2nd, 2014 at 8:25 PM ^

If that press conference demonstrated anything, it's that Hackett is extremely thoughtful and a good judge of character. Schiano won't measure up to anyone's definition of a qualified candidate (except Schiano himself) least of all Hackett's.

blueday

December 2nd, 2014 at 6:02 PM ^

One will ever be able to say I only supported a winning team. Actually, the actions and immature comments by former players, fans, and students were more embarrassing than a losing record.