Notre Dame vs Florida State Sunday 7:30 pm

Submitted by UMxWolverines on September 5th, 2021 at 7:27 PM

7:30 on ABC

This will be interesting. Is FSU improved from last year or does Notre Dame take them down in Tallahassee? 

The Geek

September 6th, 2021 at 11:10 AM ^

OSU is down (for them) and I think we have a legit shot to beat them this year. I can see UofM and Iowa in the B1G Championship vying for a playoff spot. It’s not that hard to imagine. Indinia, Wisky and PSU have not impressed thus far, and our biggest test before The Game could be Sparty. 

UMxWolverines

September 5th, 2021 at 10:12 PM ^

I never said irrelevant...it was one of Harbaugh's best wins since he's been here....and I was there to see it. But A. We already had 2 losses at that point and B. they were able to beat us on the way to a undefeated regular season the year before yet people on here are calling them overrated...what kind of logic is that? 

DetroitBlue

September 5th, 2021 at 10:19 PM ^

I was there too - it was cold and wet but so much fun. 
 

I think ‘overrated’ is a fair description of ND under Kelly. You put them in the Big Ten East and their absolute best case scenario is 2nd place, and often likely 3rd or 4th. For a team like that to ride a soft schedule to multiple playoff appearances - and then fail to score in those games - overrated seems pretty apt. 

DetroitBlue

September 5th, 2021 at 10:51 PM ^

Um, i hate to break it to you but we are literally unranked right now. I’m no logic expert, but I’m pretty sure the fact that we aren’t rated, like, at all means, by definition, that we aren’t overrated. 
 

Plus, I don’t think you’d get a lot of flack on this board for saying we’ve been overrated the last few years based on wins and losses. 

Blue@LSU

September 5th, 2021 at 7:41 PM ^

This would be the year for someone else to step up in the ACC and challenge Clemson. Their defense looked formidable, but their offense was pretty shaky. One more loss should be enough to knock them out of the playoffs.

mfan_in_ohio

September 5th, 2021 at 8:03 PM ^

They should be out now. The rest of their schedule is absolute garbage.  Maybe it’s just me, but I think you should have to beat a ranked team at some point to get into the playoffs. The only difference between the resumes of 2021 Clemson at a hypothetical 12-1 and the “national champion” UCF team is that UCF entered bowl season with three wins over ranked teams, and Clemson probably won’t have any. Clemson got the shot against a top 5 team that UCF didn’t, and got rushing Rutgered.  

Perkis-Size Me

September 5th, 2021 at 8:41 PM ^

I give credit to Brian Kelly. He’s a great coach. But he’d fare no better then Harbaugh if he was coaching Michigan. 

The only difference between Notre Dame’s success and Michigan’s lack thereof boils down to two words: Ohio State. 

If Michigan was an independent with ND’s schedule and ND was in the Big Ten East, then Harbaugh would’ve made the playoffs twice by now and ND wouldn’t have sniffed anything beyond second place in the division. 

Don’t get me wrong. Notre Dame has earned what it’s gotten, but it’s not an inherently better or stronger program. They’re the benefactors of a far easier schedule. 

MGlobules

September 5th, 2021 at 7:55 PM ^

Announcers truly abysmal. If this is any indication of what's to come, this is a blood-letting in the making. 

EDIT: Happy if I am gonna be proved wrong! I live in Tallahassee, hate ND, and the local economy needs FSU to be good.  

blueheron

September 5th, 2021 at 7:57 PM ^

This game isn't a good example (well, maybe except for people who haven't paid attention to FSU's woes the past few years), but ND has an uncanny ability to catch teams at the peak of their reputation:reality ratio. I'd have to look at the historical details to be sure, but I'll bet they've played lots of ranked teams early in the season that turned out to be overrated.

befuggled

September 5th, 2021 at 8:25 PM ^

That's just what happens when you schedule theoretically tough games at the beginning of the year.

A Michigan example is Colorado in 1997. They were coming off of their second straight 10-2 season and they'd finished 11-1 the year before that; we'd split the two previous games with them thanks to a play I am glad I did not see live. They were ranked in the top ten coming into the game.

Yet Woodson had his first interception of the season, Colorado was lucky to score at all and it turned out to be one of the easier games of the year. Colorado ended up finishing 5-6.

(I'm still kind of pissed at them for losing to Nebraska that year. They did play them tough, at least.)

Eng1980

September 5th, 2021 at 9:28 PM ^

Yeah, I am still bitter.  Michigan and Nebraska have two common opponents.  Michigan had them both beat by halftime.  Baylor and Colorado were still in the game at halftime against Nebraska but power rankings don't take halftime scores into account nor do they consider illegal kicked balls.