Notre Dame reports 29 Covid cases 1 week into school
Notre dame did pre matriculation testing to isolate all cases before returning to campus
Unsurprisingly, this method didn’t work and now 29 cases have been spreading Covid through campus for the past week.
UofM is following a similar approach, so I thought it was relevant to post here
August 14th, 2020 at 3:25 PM ^
I think it's pretty clear: If R0 >1 on campus, it's a failure. If we aren't containing and reducing it, we're failing. Period.
August 14th, 2020 at 3:29 PM ^
OK, I agree. What R0 on campus does the 29 cases translate to?
August 14th, 2020 at 4:20 PM ^
There are a lot of people that ask questions in bad faith as a rhetorical tool. Based on your response here I don't think that is what you were doing.
As for your philosophical question, I don't know that there is an "acceptable" answer. It is the first data point. The steps taken to make sure that the numbers don't explode is where the focus should be, not on how many have it after one week.
August 14th, 2020 at 3:04 PM ^
Usually outbreaks don’t go from 0 to 60,000 in one week
the whack a mole strategy doesn’t seem to be effective at limiting outbreaks
August 14th, 2020 at 4:17 PM ^
That translates to 223 cases per million per day. That's a lot. That's where Texas and California are today. But it's a crude calculation for a situation where everyone is coming in from somewhere else.
I have read that there are a fair amount of false negatives with the PCR test, so some could have been infected before arrival. Some could have been infected from asymptomatic false negatives.
August 14th, 2020 at 5:39 PM ^
Thank you, that is helpful context. I also agree with Tomer above that using the data and tools (testing, contact tracing, etc.) to prevent exponential spread will be important and interesting to follow how they do.
August 14th, 2020 at 3:03 PM ^
Honestly, while they won't say it, it is clear that the B1G canceled football because they know at some point the universities are going to move to online only.
You cannot put kids in dorms/classrooms/fitness centers/parties and not seen a huge rise in covid. It's not possible.
August 14th, 2020 at 3:04 PM ^
And who would have thought University of Phoenix saw this coming all along...
August 14th, 2020 at 7:01 PM ^
Naw, they just didn't want to foot the bill for air conditioning.
August 14th, 2020 at 3:29 PM ^
This will happen at every university, including our own, with increased frequency. And people still think it’s a good idea to play football.
August 14th, 2020 at 3:31 PM ^
I don’t know how people have not accepted that this piece of shit Chinese virus is going to make it’s round. No level of isolation or social distancing will stop that - slow it down to a manageable rate - perhaps.
August 14th, 2020 at 3:56 PM ^
The Holy Spirit is their inoculation.
August 14th, 2020 at 4:13 PM ^
[I deleted this post. It was a minor poke at Lou Holtz but I considered that "COVID cases" are people who may be in a bad way, so no joke.]
August 14th, 2020 at 4:21 PM ^
If less than .4% of the population is too high, we are never going back to anything.
August 14th, 2020 at 5:30 PM ^
We still keep punting on doing what other countries have proven works to contain this. Until we do said work, on an organized national level, it's pure arrogance to expect containment. We're left talking like defeated chumps about "acceptable risks" and "death rates".
The US is no longer the country that prepared with solidarity for Normandy for years after Pearl Harbor.
The US of today jumped on the beaches at Normandy in Mid-December 1941 no matter the level of preparation. So that it could claim progress and feel good about acting "normal".
August 14th, 2020 at 8:44 PM ^
Not sure what's realistic. Let's face it no state has proven they have the answer and model to follow. The only answer I keep hearing the left preach is wear a mask (or shut everything down). Great but that's some genius idea or even realistic of having big effect. They need to quit acting like there's some secret they know that others don't but that's what they are going with big time with their campaign.
Either way there's zero convincing data that countries or certain people who are wearing masks are doing better numbers wise. Just as many examples of not wearing doing well or bad. You'd think we'd be seeing huge rural numbers or some proof Republicans are getting it. If anything it's been reported repeatedly that Democratic high demographic voters like in black community that got hit much harder in proportion to their population. Plus the United States is now one of the higher percentage of people wearing masks in the world yet been no drop off in cases but much of it also due to testing 800k a day also.
Our numbers are right in line with just countries ON AVERAGE and if not for the the horrific nursing home decisions we'd be better than average in death rate per million. Also looks like might be some correlation to obesity as well which let's face it we are horrible.
There's no magical answer not in a country where half the people don't believe much of what's being reported and the other side does nothing about the unbelievably huge crowds of protesters who are breaking every CDC rule in a global pandemic. Bottom line this was never leaving. We all knew this early on especially in a country this size. It will leave when it runs it's course just like all others before it
August 14th, 2020 at 9:20 PM ^
SMH.
Really.
SMH.
I started typing a much longer rebuttal, but you're so deeply entrenched with your Fox/OAN/Q/etc. nonsense that, no matter what evidence I (or anyone else) post to refute it, you're not going to open up your eyes and mind to any of it.
August 14th, 2020 at 9:28 PM ^
The only thing that could change his mind, and many others, would be for Dear Leader to change his mind. That's it, and it's incredibly dumb and frustrating.
August 14th, 2020 at 9:25 PM ^
Wow, that is quite possibly the worst post I've ever read on Mgoblog
August 14th, 2020 at 5:45 PM ^
This not promising...
August 14th, 2020 at 6:55 PM ^
My son just drove to college today. I felt like I was sending him off to war. Of course, different risks, but it was the feeling that even if he's in good hands and those around him are being careful, something could happen. Not a good feeling.
August 14th, 2020 at 8:18 PM ^
Look on bright side at his age even if he does get it he's more than likely never to have noticed it
August 14th, 2020 at 9:33 PM ^
I hope you're right.
August 14th, 2020 at 9:19 PM ^
Seeing all the happy Facebook posts of parents depositing their kids into the dorm.
Not going to be any refunds, and when things get shut down, and they will, what, head back home, get tested before going in the door, hang at a motel for results.
This disaster doesn't have someone to blame. It will destroy the economy of of every college town dependent on a student population.
The whole open the schools back up is a damn serious threat to every parent, faculty, facilities staff now involved in sanitation, cafeteria staff, etc.
The behavior of high school to college kids will blow numbers through the roof.
We are not looking at a good situation moving forward.
Great to have arguments over opinions, but in the end this virus will prevail.
August 17th, 2020 at 4:57 PM ^
Cases aren't a big deal. Deaths are.